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  • AD86
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    #101
    Originally posted by pacmanis1
    There are levels to boxing but there is also the old saying that styles makes fights. I think Margarito would have been interesting. Gun to my head I'd pick Mayweather, hell, just ask me I'd pick Mayweather, but that was a real missed opportunity for his career. Not because it'd make a lot of money and enhance his legacy, but because I feel we would have seen Floyd pull out some new tools. People point to Paul Williams too and while on paper it looks interesting PWill never fought tall and probably wouldnt be able to trouble Mayweather at all.
    When the fight was offered Floyd fought Baldomir to set up the De La Hoya fight and at the time Baldomir was WBC, the Ring and Lineal champ. I find it hard to criticise the route he went down and find it strange that moving up to fight De La Hoya at a weight which was an obvious disadvantage is not given more credit than a fight with Margarito would have.

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    • Code Red
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      #102
      Originally posted by considerthis
      yea it was funny...but there was a b*tch ass feel from Floyd's side too. I mean if he had ever mentioned testing before, it woulda played better. the whole reason it came to light was cuz his pops was shook.
      I disagree, the whole reason it came to light is there were enough people in boxing who suspected Pac was on steroids, Floyd's team is simply the first to act on the rumor which I give them nothing but credit for doing.

      Also Floyd is not an Arum fighter, he did not have to accept a fight with a roided Pac as most of Pac's previous Top Rank opponents had.

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        #103
        Originally posted by Code Red
        I don't post much these days but it does amaze me that people are still doubting, scrutinizing, and hating on Mayweather.

        I don't understand why you can't simply give the guy credit as the best of this era, 50-0. The fact of the matter is every fighter you claimed would beat him got dominated when they stepped in the ring with Floyd. So many of you claim you know boxing, you say you understand there are levels to this game, yet you still denied and played down Floyd's abilities.

        Fact is you should of realized by 1998 there was no other active fighter on his level. No fighter in his era has ever come close to matching his skill and talent yet for 20 years you bet against him, told casuals he'd lose to what we now know to be lesser fighters and even today you still posting nonsense.

        You watched an entire career, watched a guy make history, and even then you still dont know **** about boxing!

        Pity
        i don't know maybe i missed something, but i don't remember an overwhelming amount of ppl picking mcgregor, berto, guerrero, ortiz, maidana 2X, or marquez, over floyd...

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          #104
          Originally posted by revelated
          In before
          • Paul Williams would have beat him (got sparked by Sergio Martinez)
          • Castillo beat him (close fight that could have gone either way)
          • He ducked Hamed (called Hamed out, Manny Steward refused the fight, documented)
          • Paul Spadafora would have beat him (debatable, since he went the distance with Angel Manfredy, a guy both Corrales and Floyd stopped)
          • Margacheato would have beat him (with plaster wraps, probably)
          • He ducked Manny in 2009 (despite Roach being on record as saying Manny ducked the fight due to the drug testing)
          • Manny won the fight (despite Roach being on record as saying Manny lost)
          • Maidana won the first fight/Kenny Bayless helped Floyd the second fight (despite the fact that both fights, Maidana got dominated the second half)
          • He sucker punched Ortiz (ignore that Ortiz intentionally head butted in the corner)


          Just getting it out the way.

          Well done cabron

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            #105
            Originally posted by Code Red
            I disagree, the whole reason it came to light is there were enough people in boxing who suspected Pac was on steroids, Floyd's team is simply the first to act on the rumor which I give them nothing but credit for doing.

            Also Floyd is not an Arum fighter, he did not have to accept a fight with a roided Pac as most of Pac's previous Top Rank opponents had.
            you could look at it that way...but I don't recall any of these other people in boxing saying anything until Floyd sr brought it up. the whole 'team mayweather was speaking for the boxing community' is a convenient narrative only corroborated by hear-say and rumors. Floyd sr seemed genuinely worried about Floyd getting in with a juiced pac...which kinda went against all their tough talk. I'm all for a level playing field, and I feel like pac was on something...but it's funny how it only came up when Floyd was pressured to fight a tough opponent. he forced his own hand to double down on the testing from that point forward...I'm not convinced Floyd champions drug testing without pac in the picture.

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              #106
              Originally posted by considerthis
              you could look at it that way...but I don't recall any of these other people in boxing saying anything until Floyd sr brought it up. the whole 'team mayweather was speaking for the boxing community' is a convenient narrative only corroborated by hear-say and rumors. Floyd sr seemed genuinely worried about Floyd getting in with a juiced pac...which kinda went against all their tough talk. I'm all for a level playing field, and I feel like pac was on something...but it's funny how it only came up when Floyd was pressured to fight a tough opponent. he forced his own hand to double down on the testing from that point forward...I'm not convinced Floyd champions drug testing without pac in the picture.
              Floyd Sr says many things, you think just cause Sr says it Floyd does it? Maybe back when Floyd was 15...I'm sure Floyd got the opinions of many who know the effects of steroids before he went public with his announcement for drug testing. Let's not forget that the BALCO scandal was not a forgotten thing at that time in boxing.

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                #107
                Originally posted by considerthis
                you could look at it that way...but I don't recall any of these other people in boxing saying anything until Floyd sr brought it up. the whole 'team mayweather was speaking for the boxing community' is a convenient narrative only corroborated by hear-say and rumors. Floyd sr seemed genuinely worried about Floyd getting in with a juiced pac...which kinda went against all their tough talk. I'm all for a level playing field, and I feel like pac was on something...but it's funny how it only came up when Floyd was pressured to fight a tough opponent. he forced his own hand to double down on the testing from that point forward...I'm not convinced Floyd champions drug testing without pac in the picture.
                I agree with this.

                Only change I saw in Pac was, him developing his right hand when he mainly used the straight left, and his footwork.

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                  #108
                  Originally posted by djtmal
                  I agree with this.

                  Only change I saw in Pac was, him developing his right hand when he mainly used the straight left, and his footwork.
                  And if that's the case then Pac should of taken the test with no hesitation. He was clearly "shook" at the thought of taking random drug tests and none of us are dumb enough to believe his fear was for any reason other than being caught using roids!
                  Last edited by Code Red; 11-22-2017, 02:40 PM.

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                    #109
                    Originally posted by Code Red
                    Floyd Sr says many things, you think just cause Sr says it Floyd does it? Maybe back when Floyd was 15...I'm sure Floyd got the opinions of many who know the effects of steroids before he went public with his announcement for drug testing. Let's not forget that the BALCO scandal was not a forgotten thing at that time in boxing.
                    no, I'm saying Floyd sr was the first one I recall bringing it up, then others came out of the woodwork. how is it that you're sure about what Floyd thinks and when he decided he wanted to champion drug testing? baseless speculation aside, what I remember is him never saying anything about extra testing until the proposed fight with pac.

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                      #110
                      Originally posted by considerthis
                      no, I'm saying Floyd sr was the first one I recall bringing it up, then others came out of the woodwork. how is it that you're sure about what Floyd thinks and when he decided he wanted to champion drug testing? baseless speculation aside, what I remember is him never saying anything about extra testing until the proposed fight with pac.
                      And what is your point other than Pac is who Floyd suspected is on roids? I know one thing Pac certainly behaved as if he was!

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