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    #41
    Originally posted by RJJ-94-02=GOAT
    More lies������ "Prime Lewis was knocked out by Rahman" your exact words and no mention of tail end.
    Keep on digging that hole your in.
    As I said you don't merit no more serious responses from me now.
    Your an ignorant fool ����������
    Go and enjoy your imaginary "golden age" of HW boxing where not one fighter has a legit win to their name����������
    I can't help if you don't understand the 2 year difference.

    Lewis came in at a trim 246, not 256 like he did against Vitali. He was motivated 2 years earlier, not 2 years later.

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    • RJJ-94-02=GOAT
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      #42
      Originally posted by Cutthroat
      I can't help if you don't understand the 2 year difference.

      Lewis came in at a trim 246, not 256 like he did against Vitali. He was motivated 2 years earlier, not 2 years later.
      Your the one who said he was "out of shape" vs Rahman and then said Rahman knocked out a "prime Lewis". Just read YOUR own words.
      Idiot😴😴😴😴

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      • RJJ-94-02=GOAT
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        #43
        Originally posted by Cutthroat
        Mitch Green 6'5 went a full 12 with Tyson
        James Smith 6'4 went a full 12 with Tyson
        Tony Tucker 6'5 went a full 12 with Tyson
        Lewis 6'5 knocked out Tyson


        Tyson is the hardest hitting, BEST, short HW of all time and even he had trouble generating enough power to KO taller fighters.

        Consider yourself educated. Seriously though, re-evaluate everything you have ever learned about boxing, if you could be THIS wrong, think about how wrong you are about everything else.
        Tyrell Biggs 6"5, Carl Williams 6"4, Larry Holmes 6"3, Jose Ribalta 6"5, Pinklon Thomas 6"3. All got KO'd. Plus the 30-40 other fighters who he knocked out regardless of size. And you think Tyson couldn't "generate power" HAHAHAHAHA!!!!! 😭😭😭
        Your literally the biggest idiot ever.
        😴😴😴😴

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          #44
          Originally posted by RJJ-94-02=GOAT
          Tyrell Biggs 6"5, Carl Williams 6"4, Larry Holmes 6"3, Jose Ribalta 6"5, Pinklon Thomas 6"3. All got KO'd. Plus the 30-40 other fighters who he knocked out regardless of size. And you think Tyson couldn't "generate power" HAHAHAHAHA!!!!! ������
          Your literally the biggest idiot ever.
          ��������
          Hey genius, you listed nothing but journeymen.

          Biggs-10 losses, stopped 7 times
          Holmes-39 years old everyone knows he was past it
          Williams-10 losses stopped 6 times
          Ribalta-17 losses stopped 9 times
          Thomas-7 losses stopped 7 times

          You see? This right here is what I'm talking about, these guys are glorified journeymen made famous by guys pumping up Tyson's resume. They didn't do anything before or after fighting Tyson. Meanwhile guys like Stiverne or Duahapaus get no respect lol.

          Most of these guys aren't even that big either, Biggs is the largest guy at 6'5 228, that's barely around Eric Molina's size who is 6'4 235-250 and NOBODY thinks of Molina as a large heavyweight. Most guys these days are pushing 240 at least.

          Still doesn't change the fact that he went a full 12 with the fighters I listed, he had trouble knocking out taller guys.
          Last edited by Cutthroat; 11-12-2017, 07:37 PM.

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            #45
            Originally posted by RJJ-94-02=GOAT
            Your the one who said he was "out of shape" vs Rahman and then said Rahman knocked out a "prime Lewis". Just read YOUR own words.
            Idiot😴😴😴😴
            Out of shape doesn't=out of prime, you're taking my words out of context.

            253lb Lewis that fought Rahman is severely out of shape. 246lb Lewis that re-matched Rahman, motivated by KO loss=As good a Lewis as you'll see

            2 years later

            256lb 38 year old Lewis-Obese, no motivation=Severely past prime

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              #46
              Originally posted by Cutthroat
              Hey genius, you listed nothing but journeymen.

              Biggs-10 losses, stopped 7 times
              Holmes-39 years old everyone knows he was past it
              Williams-10 losses stopped 6 times
              Ribalta-17 losses stopped 9 times
              Thomas-7 losses stopped 7 times

              You see? This right here is what I'm talking about, these guys are glorified journeymen made famous by guys pumping up Tyson's resume. They didn't do anything before or after fighting Tyson. Meanwhile guys like Stiverne or Duahapaus get no respect lol.

              Most of these guys aren't even that big either, Biggs is the largest guy at 6'5 228, that's barely around Eric Molina's size who is 6'4 235-250 and NOBODY thinks of Molina as a large heavyweight. Most guys these days are pushing 240 at least.

              Still doesn't change the fact that he went a full 12 with the fighters I listed, he had trouble knocking out taller guys.
              Holmes was 38, born in 49 and the fight was in January 88. Looks like you just misread boxrec😂😂 As I told you kid boxrec won't teach you everything!
              And are you honestly trying to say Larry Holmes was a "glorified journeyman"
              HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!! !!!!!!!!!😭😭
              You are unbelievable!😭😭😭😭😭
              So according to you:
              1. Holmes was journeyman
              2. Lewis was both old, out of shape and in his prime in the same fight.
              3. Louis and Ali aren't as good as today's HW's cause they got dropped by smaller fighters (but still won)
              4. Mike Tyson struggled to generate power.
              HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA😭😭😭😭😭
              Damn, your riddled with L's, you've got to be the ludicrous person I've ever had the misfortune of interacting with.
              I was getting bored of this nonesense but your comedy gold! Keep the nonesense coming! 😂😂😂😂😂

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                #47
                Originally posted by Cutthroat
                Hey genius, you listed nothing but journeymen.

                Biggs-10 losses, stopped 7 times
                Holmes-39 years old everyone knows he was past it
                Williams-10 losses stopped 6 times
                Ribalta-17 losses stopped 9 times
                Thomas-7 losses stopped 7 times

                You see? This right here is what I'm talking about, these guys are glorified journeymen made famous by guys pumping up Tyson's resume. They didn't do anything before or after fighting Tyson. Meanwhile guys like Stiverne or Duahapaus get no respect lol.

                Most of these guys aren't even that big either, Biggs is the largest guy at 6'5 228, that's barely around Eric Molina's size who is 6'4 235-250 and NOBODY thinks of Molina as a large heavyweight. Most guys these days are pushing 240 at least.

                Still doesn't change the fact that he went a full 12 with the fighters I listed, he had trouble knocking out taller guys.
                You compared Larry Holmes to Stiverne and Duhaupas😂😂😂😂😂
                Comedy Gold!😂

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                • RJJ-94-02=GOAT
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                  #48
                  Originally posted by Cutthroat
                  Hey genius, you listed nothing but journeymen.

                  Biggs-10 losses, stopped 7 times
                  Holmes-39 years old everyone knows he was past it
                  Williams-10 losses stopped 6 times
                  Ribalta-17 losses stopped 9 times
                  Thomas-7 losses stopped 7 times

                  You see? This right here is what I'm talking about, these guys are glorified journeymen made famous by guys pumping up Tyson's resume. They didn't do anything before or after fighting Tyson. Meanwhile guys like Stiverne or Duahapaus get no respect lol.

                  Most of these guys aren't even that big either, Biggs is the largest guy at 6'5 228, that's barely around Eric Molina's size who is 6'4 235-250 and NOBODY thinks of Molina as a large heavyweight. Most guys these days are pushing 240 at least.

                  Still doesn't change the fact that he went a full 12 with the fighters I listed, he had trouble knocking out taller guys.
                  I need more of your nonesense. Go all in, tell me Andre Ward beats Roy Jones or something ****** like that😂😂😂😂

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                  • Cutthroat
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                    #49
                    Originally posted by RJJ-94-02=GOAT
                    Holmes was 38, born in 49 and the fight was in January 88. Looks like you just misread boxrec���� As I told you kid boxrec won't teach you everything!
                    And are you honestly trying to say Larry Holmes was a "glorified journeyman"
                    HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!! !!!!!!!!!����
                    You are unbelievable!����������
                    So according to you:
                    1. Holmes was journeyman
                    2. Lewis was both old, out of shape and in his prime in the same fight.
                    3. Louis and Ali aren't as good as today's HW's cause they got dropped by smaller fighters (but still won)
                    4. Mike Tyson struggled to generate power.
                    HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA����������
                    Damn, your riddled with L's, you've got to be the ludicrous person I've ever had the misfortune of interacting with.
                    I was getting bored of this nonesense but your comedy gold! Keep the nonesense coming! ����������
                    You seem to not understand that you can use weight to help pinpoint a Heavyweight fighter's prime, when they were in their absolute best shape.

                    1. The fight has been shown numerous times on TV, Holmes weighed 226lbs the heaviest of his career.
                    Prime Holmes was in 1980 or so and averaged 212lbs on weigh ins.

                    Holmes was gatekeeper status at that point, losses to Spinks, Tyson, Holyfield, McCall, etc. When you lose that often you're no better than a Chisora.

                    2. Lewis fought Vitali 2 years later, that's a 2 year gap. Not sure what you're not understanding. He was vacationing and filming for Oceans 11 when he fought Rahman the 1st time. 2nd time he came motivated, dropped 7lbs of fat and starched him. That was the last time we saw any semblance of prime Lewis.

                    3. Doesn't change the fact they got dropped by blown up light heavies, while you criticize guys like AJ for getting dropped by 6'6 240lb Wlad or Wilder for simply getting hit.
                    There is nobody built like Galento or Cooper at HW because it's impossible for them to exist with the giants of today. Even guys like Mike Mollo and Joey Abell hit significantly harder than Galento and Cooper.

                    4. Why couldn't Mike KO these fighters? I want to hear your excuse lmao, I already know the reason, it's because it's harder to generate power punching upwards.
                    Last edited by Cutthroat; 11-12-2017, 09:38 PM.

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                      #50
                      Originally posted by White Willy
                      After the 10+ years of Klitschko dominance and no real challengers, we're entering another golden age.

                      Anthony Joshua
                      Joseph Parker
                      Deontay Wilder

                      Dominic Breazeale
                      Jarrell Miller
                      Andy Ruiz Jr.
                      Charles Martin
                      Dillian Whyte

                      Luis Ortiz
                      Alexander Povetkin
                      Kubrat Pulev
                      Carlos Takam

                      Daniel Dubois
                      Joe Joyce
                      Tony Yoka

                      This is looking super healthy right now, and wide open. In the next five years we're likely going to see a true ATG emerge from this era.

                      And this isn't even including the return of the best out of the lot, The Gypsy King.
                      Came here to red K you for not having Fury at the top of the list but this last line saved you.


                      Fury is the undisputed champ and no one in the division can hand him a L.

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