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  • NEETzsche
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    #11
    There's an intriguing fight at the end of the month between Kuzmin and Mansour too

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      #12
      I don't agree. I see nothing special about today's heavyweights and I like middleweight, light heavyweight, welterweight and other weight classes better. The K brothers,in their prime, especially Vitali would have no trouble beating any heavyweight fighting now in my opinion. Remember that Wlad was 39 when he lost to Fury and 41 when he lost to AJ after giving him a scare. Nobody ever took Vitali's title. He retired due to old age. Wlad's fights were dull until he knocked his opponents out do to excessive holding and some get confused and say both brothers fought like that. Vitali didn't hold much and his fights weren't dull as he dominated and KOed his opponents. Was Fury the least bit exciting in his long range taunting and tapping win over Wlad? I don't think so. I say a prime Wlad would has beat Fury and a prime Vitali would walk through Fury and knock him out. I don't think this is a golden age of heavyweight or that any heavyweight fighting today with the possible exception of Miller will be an all time great. Fury, Wilder and AJ are 28 to 32 years old and won't likely get much better. Right now they are just better than average heavyweights and not all time greats.

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        #13
        Originally posted by White Willy
        After the 10+ years of Klitschko dominance and no real challengers, we're entering another golden age.

        Anthony Joshua
        Joseph Parker
        Deontay Wilder

        Dominic Breazeale
        Jarrell Miller
        Andy Ruiz Jr.
        Charles Martin
        Dillian Whyte

        Luis Ortiz
        Alexander Povetkin
        Kubrat Pulev
        Carlos Takam

        Daniel Dubois
        Joe Joyce
        Tony Yoka

        This is looking super healthy right now, and wide open. In the next five years we're likely going to see a true ATG emerge from this era.

        And this isn't even including the return of the best out of the lot, The Gypsy King.
        Are you for real???😂😂 The HW division is trash!!! NONE of these guys could've hung with the top guys in the golden era's of HW boxing. Guys like Whyte, Brezeale, Miller, Martin etc wouldn't even be contenders in the stacked HW division. If Wilder, AJ or Parker were to step in the ring with real elite HW's like Ali, Foreman, Holmes, Lewis, Vitali etc they would be badly exposed for their lack of skills and fundamentals. The only guy who could compete with the past great HW's is Tyson Fury, mainly because of his huge size advantage and stylistic problems he can cause anyone.
        If you honestly think this is a golden era of HW boxing, you need to learn your history and watch a lot more boxing 🥊

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          #14
          Now if they would just fight each other...

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            #15
            Originally posted by The Big Dunn
            The HWT division is more exciting. It would be that much better if Wlad and Fury were active.
            Fury is just a carnival act good for comic relief.

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              #16
              Originally posted by boliodogs
              I don't agree. I see nothing special about today's heavyweights and I like middleweight, light heavyweight, welterweight and other weight classes better. The K brothers,in their prime, especially Vitali would have no trouble beating any heavyweight fighting now in my opinion. Remember that Wlad was 39 when he lost to Fury and 41 when he lost to AJ after giving him a scare. Nobody ever took Vitali's title. He retired due to old age. Wlad's fights were dull until he knocked his opponents out do to excessive holding and some get confused and say both brothers fought like that. Vitali didn't hold much and his fights weren't dull as he dominated and KOed his opponents. Was Fury the least bit exciting in his long range taunting and tapping win over Wlad? I don't think so. I say a prime Wlad would has beat Fury and a prime Vitali would walk through Fury and knock him out. I don't think this is a golden age of heavyweight or that any heavyweight fighting today with the possible exception of Miller will be an all time great. Fury, Wilder and AJ are 28 to 32 years old and won't likely get much better. Right now they are just better than average heavyweights and not all time greats.
              You speak a lot of sense here. This is in no way a golden era of HW boxing. Also nice to see Vitali getting some props, he would absolutely merk anyone on that list, the only guy that could cause him any sort of trouble is Fury, but Vitali would get to him eventually.

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                #17
                Originally posted by RJJ-94-02=GOAT
                Are you for real???😂😂 The HW division is trash!!! NONE of these guys could've hung with the top guys in the golden era's of HW boxing. Guys like Whyte, Brezeale, Miller, Martin etc wouldn't even be contenders in the stacked HW division. If Wilder, AJ or Parker were to step in the ring with real elite HW's like Ali, Foreman, Holmes, Lewis, Vitali etc they would be badly exposed for their lack of skills and fundamentals. The only guy who could compete with the past great HW's is Tyson Fury, mainly because of his huge size advantage and stylistic problems he can cause anyone.
                If you honestly think this is a golden era of HW boxing, you need to learn your history and watch a lot more boxing 🥊
                Originally posted by boliodogs
                I don't agree. I see nothing special about today's heavyweights and I like middleweight, light heavyweight, welterweight and other weight classes better. The K brothers,in their prime, especially Vitali would have no trouble beating any heavyweight fighting now in my opinion. Remember that Wlad was 39 when he lost to Fury and 41 when he lost to AJ after giving him a scare. Nobody ever took Vitali's title. He retired due to old age. Wlad's fights were dull until he knocked his opponents out do to excessive holding and some get confused and say both brothers fought like that. Vitali didn't hold much and his fights weren't dull as he dominated and KOed his opponents. Was Fury the least bit exciting in his long range taunting and tapping win over Wlad? I don't think so. I say a prime Wlad would has beat Fury and a prime Vitali would walk through Fury and knock him out. I don't think this is a golden age of heavyweight or that any heavyweight fighting today with the possible exception of Miller will be an all time great. Fury, Wilder and AJ are 28 to 32 years old and won't likely get much better. Right now they are just better than average heavyweights and not all time greats.
                Ouch baby, very ouch.

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                  #18
                  Originally posted by boliodogs
                  I don't agree. I see nothing special about today's heavyweights and I like middleweight, light heavyweight, welterweight and other weight classes better. The K brothers,in their prime, especially Vitali would have no trouble beating any heavyweight fighting now in my opinion. Remember that Wlad was 39 when he lost to Fury and 41 when he lost to AJ after giving him a scare. Nobody ever took Vitali's title. He retired due to old age. Wlad's fights were dull until he knocked his opponents out do to excessive holding and some get confused and say both brothers fought like that. Vitali didn't hold much and his fights weren't dull as he dominated and KOed his opponents. Was Fury the least bit exciting in his long range taunting and tapping win over Wlad? I don't think so. I say a prime Wlad would has beat Fury and a prime Vitali would walk through Fury and knock him out. I don't think this is a golden age of heavyweight or that any heavyweight fighting today with the possible exception of Miller will be an all time great. Fury, Wilder and AJ are 28 to 32 years old and won't likely get much better. Right now they are just better than average heavyweights and not all time greats.

                  Originally posted by RJJ-94-02=GOAT
                  Are you for real???���� The HW division is trash!!! NONE of these guys could've hung with the top guys in the golden era's of HW boxing. Guys like Whyte, Brezeale, Miller, Martin etc wouldn't even be contenders in the stacked HW division. If Wilder, AJ or Parker were to step in the ring with real elite HW's like Ali, Foreman, Holmes, Lewis, Vitali etc they would be badly exposed for their lack of skills and fundamentals. The only guy who could compete with the past great HW's is Tyson Fury, mainly because of his huge size advantage and stylistic problems he can cause anyone.
                  If you honestly think this is a golden era of HW boxing, you need to learn your history and watch a lot more boxing ��

                  Here comes the revisionist history. Both of you talking about Vitali like he was an unbeatable monster. This dude got his ass beat by a 38 year old, obese Lewis that hadn't fought in a year and barely trained. Even Rahman was capable of knocking out Lewis when he came in that shape.

                  Sanders also put him on bambi legs in round 1 despite being a beer bellied retired golfer. Yeah this guy is going to take an AJ/Wilder punch LOL. He also looked like shyt vs Chisora getting tagged repeatedly.

                  [IMG]https://media.*****.com/media/l2QEcRJdUSaaFb3Lq/*****.gif[/IMG]


                  Wlad was getting sparked out by journeymen in his prime. Losses to Purrity, Sanders, Brewster, down 3x against Peter, rocked by Wach etc. Nobody was saying shyt when he dominated Pulev but as soon as he got thoroughly out boxed by Fury it was "he's an old man", no, the Lewis that came in against Vitali, that was an old man. Wlad was still in great shape at height of his skills.


                  Ali down by 185lb Cooper

                  Prime Lewis knocked out by Rahman and McCall

                  Tyson knocked out by Douglas

                  One Klitschko bro getting destroyed by journeymen at his peak, the other beat by an obese old man at his peak

                  etc.

                  But Wilder sucks because...he's undefeated?

                  Joshua sucks because he's 4 years pro and didn't know how to pace himself properly vs Wlad losing a whopping 3 rounds before stopping him?

                  Seriously, Wlad was turned into Fury and AJ's plaything. That should be proof alone of how overrated the Klit bros were.

                  Joshua's lack of experience, you know the fact that he was barely 4 years pro and Wlad 20+, is what kept Wlad in the fight. Once he regained his stamina after like 3 rounds it was back to being a punching bag lmao

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                    #19
                    Originally posted by Cutthroat
                    Here comes the revisionist history. Both of you talking about Vitali like he was an unbeatable monster. This dude got his ass beat by a 38 year old, obese Lewis that hadn't fought in a year and barely trained. Even Rahman was capable of knocking out Lewis when he came in that shape.

                    Sanders also put him on bambi legs in round 1 despite being a beer bellied retired golfer. Yeah this guy is going to take an AJ/Wilder punch LOL. He also looked like shyt vs Chisora getting tagged repeatedly.

                    [IMG]https://media.*****.com/media/l2QEcRJdUSaaFb3Lq/*****.gif[/IMG]


                    Wlad was getting sparked out by journeymen in his prime. Losses to Purrity, Sanders, Brewster, down 3x against Peter, rocked by Wach etc. Nobody was saying shyt when he dominated Pulev but as soon as he got thoroughly out boxed by Fury it was "he's an old man", no, the Lewis that came in against Vitali, that was an old man. Wlad was still in great shape at height of his skills.


                    Ali down by 185lb Cooper

                    Prime Lewis knocked out by Rahman and McCall

                    Tyson knocked out by Douglas

                    One Klitschko bro getting destroyed by journeymen at his peak, the other beat by an obese old man at his peak

                    etc.

                    But Wilder sucks because...he's undefeated?

                    Joshua sucks because he's 4 years pro and didn't know how to pace himself properly vs Wlad losing a whopping 3 rounds before stopping him?

                    Seriously, Wlad was turned into Fury and AJ's plaything. That should be proof alone of how overrated the Klit bros were.

                    Joshua's lack of experience, you know the fact that he was barely 4 years pro and Wlad 20+, is what kept Wlad in the fight. Once he regained his stamina after like 3 rounds it was back to being a punching bag lmao
                    Ouch baby, very ouch.

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                      #20
                      Originally posted by Cutthroat
                      Here comes the revisionist history. Both of you talking about Vitali like he was an unbeatable monster. This dude got his ass beat by a 38 year old, obese Lewis that hadn't fought in a year and barely trained. Even Rahman was capable of knocking out Lewis when he came in that shape.

                      Sanders also put him on bambi legs in round 1 despite being a beer bellied retired golfer. Yeah this guy is going to take an AJ/Wilder punch LOL. He also looked like shyt vs Chisora getting tagged repeatedly.

                      [IMG]https://media.*****.com/media/l2QEcRJdUSaaFb3Lq/*****.gif[/IMG]


                      Wlad was getting sparked out by journeymen in his prime. Losses to Purrity, Sanders, Brewster, down 3x against Peter, rocked by Wach etc. Nobody was saying shyt when he dominated Pulev but as soon as he got thoroughly out boxed by Fury it was "he's an old man", no, the Lewis that came in against Vitali, that was an old man. Wlad was still in great shape at height of his skills.


                      Ali down by 185lb Cooper

                      Prime Lewis knocked out by Rahman and McCall

                      Tyson knocked out by Douglas

                      One Klitschko bro getting destroyed by journeymen at his peak, the other beat by an obese old man at his peak

                      etc.

                      But Wilder sucks because...he's undefeated?

                      Joshua sucks because he's 4 years pro and didn't know how to pace himself properly vs Wlad losing a whopping 3 rounds before stopping him?

                      Seriously, Wlad was turned into Fury and AJ's plaything. That should be proof alone of how overrated the Klit bros were.

                      Joshua's lack of experience, you know the fact that he was barely 4 years pro and Wlad 20+, is what kept Wlad in the fight. Once he regained his stamina after like 3 rounds it was back to being a punching bag lmao
                      Uneducated ignoramus.
                      Go and actually watch these great fighters kid. Boxrec can't teach you everything!
                      If HW boxing is so great today why do NONE of these guys have one legit win between them? Take all the HW's on that list what's the best win any of them have? A 41 year old inactive Wlad coming off a loss?😂😂😂 Stiverne?😭😭😭
                      Compare that to say Ali's resume for example. Now that ain't revisionist history kid that's just FACTS!
                      Learn your history cause you've just been schooled.🥊

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