who has stiverne actually beat?

[HanzGruber]

well why are u all making out it was such a great performance and a 'statement to the division'. all he did was beat a fat inactive out of shape old man, joshua would have put him away early aswell. Stiverne just stood there waiting to get hit lol. Id judge wilder more by his struggles against molina and spzlika than last nights performance.

Talking to you about wilder is pointless. You blame him for Ortiz and povetkin for failing their drug test like a true bellend

[Madison Boxing]

Talking to you about wilder is pointless. You blame him for Ortiz and povetkin for failing their drug test like a true bellend

yeah he should have still fought ortiz and it sounds like the WBC are going to give him a pass.

[N/A]

As i thought.. it has to be written down for it to be fact with you.

You claimed we said something we never said. Here's what you wrote:

"the sport you say youre a fan of"

Where did we say that? If the answer is nowhere, be a man and admit you were lying.

[N/A]

Klitschko was ranked above Joshua when they fought at #1.

No, he wasn't.

http://www.tbrb.org/2017/05/15/11-april-2017/

[john l]

I hear people saying oh yeah stiverne was a legit win, yeah wilders fought bums but he proved himself against stiverne. what actually elevates him above any of the other bums on wilders CV? He was highly ranked, so what? Cause governing body rankings are so reliable lol. From what i see, all hes beaten is chris arreola, wow, is that the acid test at heavyweight or something, beating arreola? I never thought much of him beating stiverne a few years back, yet alone bombing him out now when hes a big fat sloppy 39 year old coming in on short notice. I guess that proves wilders the best heavyweight around though!!! No chance joshua could have done that to such quality opposition.

Well he sure could not have done better.I see this as pretty close to 50/50 fight.But right now with Joshua lifting himself into trouble(no stamina)I faver Wilder right now.Say want you want about THIS Stiverne but when Wilder fought him 1st time he was rated by all real ranking's as mid top 10.(trans box,THE RING)Why do people who like one have to bash other I will never get that???????????????

[Tony Trick-Pony]

I hear people saying oh yeah stiverne was a legit win, yeah wilders fought bums but he proved himself against stiverne. what actually elevates him above any of the other bums on wilders CV? He was highly ranked, so what? Cause governing body rankings are so reliable lol. From what i see, all hes beaten is chris arreola, wow, is that the acid test at heavyweight or something, beating arreola? I never thought much of him beating stiverne a few years back, yet alone bombing him out now when hes a big fat sloppy 39 year old coming in on short notice. I guess that proves wilders the best heavyweight around though!!! No chance joshua could have done that to such quality opposition.

Clearly Stiverne would overwhelm Joshua with a barrage of belly flaps the Brit would not see coming. When he tried to retaliate, Stiverne would simply hit himself in the back of the head and drop to his knees and buy time. Once back up, he'd run into the ropes and do a flying body cross. The ref would count 1...2...3. New WWE champion, Stiverne!

[john l]

And Wilder's jab last nite was great (like in 1st fight he seems to have to have some respect for opp before he boxes more disciplined)Any ways with that jab covering up that HUGE right he is a lot better and a real tough out.

[Elroy The Great]

in this hw landscape, who actually beat a ''quality'' guy

at this point, its more ''how you win'' than ''who''

[bopbopbbe]

The Stiverne that Wilder fought in the first fight was legit. Pretending that he was the same level of fighter last night is pure ****ery.

Not saying Stiverne was some great fighter but def a legit top 5 hw with power, combination punching skills, and decent hand speed. Def was more in shape too.

[jmrf4435]

That mysterious poster IS original ZERO . lol

he called everyone on the board anti Semites i remember for saying something bad about arum.

Rumor has it original zero is max kellerman