who has stiverne actually beat?

[Madison Boxing]

I hear people saying oh yeah stiverne was a legit win, yeah wilders fought bums but he proved himself against stiverne. what actually elevates him above any of the other bums on wilders CV? He was highly ranked, so what? Cause governing body rankings are so reliable lol. From what i see, all hes beaten is chris arreola, wow, is that the acid test at heavyweight or something, beating arreola? I never thought much of him beating stiverne a few years back, yet alone bombing him out now when hes a big fat sloppy 39 year old coming in on short notice. I guess that proves wilders the best heavyweight around though!!! No chance joshua could have done that to such quality opposition.

[N/A]

He was highly ranked, so what? Cause governing body rankings are so reliable lol.

No no no. You have it wrong. It's not governing body rankings. Stiverne was #2 or #3 in every major credible independent ranking system when Wilder shut him out. Sanctioning bodies had nothing to do with it.

[MDPopescu]

... Stiverne was #2 or #3 in every major credible independent ranking system when Wilder shut him out. Sanctioning bodies had nothing to do with it.

... this was almost three years ago... and now he fought after a 2 years layoff...

[Madison Boxing]

No no no. You have it wrong. It's not governing body rankings. Stiverne was #2 or #3 in every major credible independent ranking system when Wilder shut him out. Sanctioning bodies had nothing to do with it.

why was he ranked so highly then? I dont understand why he was so highly rated, whats he actually done that seperates him from the other fringe level fighters. Didnt adamek beat arreola too?

[Shaz619]

Chris Arreola, although he was a journeyman at that point.

[yammy25]

why was he ranked so highly then? I dont understand why he was so highly rated, whats he actually done that seperates him from the other fringe level fighters. Didnt adamek beat arreola too?

Mate dont talk sense to this guy with the orgs as his name...he legit relies on blacl and white text that suits his argument but throws all logic out the window when it flies in the face of what suits him.

Daggum just slammed him in another thread... no reply. He's like originalzero..pure bull**** reasoning

[N/A]

why was he ranked so highly then? I dont understand why he was so highly rated, whats he actually done that seperates him from the other fringe level fighters. Didnt adamek beat arreola too?

He was ranked highly because he was the world heavyweight champion of the #1 organization in boxing.

Here are the TBRB rankings from right before the first Stiverne-Wilder fight:

Champion: Wladimir Klitschko
1. Alexander Povetkin
2. Tyson Fury
3. Bermane Stiverne
4. Kubrat Pulev
5. Carlos Takam
6. Deontay Wilder
7. Vyacheslav Glazkov
8. Bryant Jennings
9. Steve Cunningham
10. Mike Perez


Who exactly should have been ranked ahead of Stiverne?

[juggernaut666]

Mate dont talk sense to this guy with the orgs as his name...he legit relies on blacl and white text that suits his argument but throws all logic out the window when it flies in the face of what suits him.

Daggum just slammed him in another thread... no reply. He's like originalzero..pure bull**** reasoning

That mysterious poster IS original ZERO . lol

[N/A]

... this was almost three years ago... and now he fought after a 2 years layoff...

And? How does that change the fact that Wilder still has the highest ranked win on his resume of any current heavyweight champion?

Yet over and over the trolls cry that Wilder has "never faced a top 10 contender" or other such nonsense.

Wilder has a top 3 win. AJ's best is #6. Don't even get us started on Parker.

[BM dnobagaV]

And? How does that change the fact that Wilder still has the highest ranked win on his resume of any current heavyweight champion?

Yet over and over the trolls cry that Wilder has "never faced a top 10 contender" or other such nonsense.

Wilder has a top 3 win. AJ's best is #6. Don't even get us started on Parker.

Takam is light years better than fat **** Stiverne.....