who has stiverne actually beat?
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Now? Sure. At their peaks? No. You can't just rewrite history. Wilder shut out Stiverne when Stiverne had the #1 belt and was universally regarded as the #2 or #3 heavyweight in the world.
Joshua has never defeated a top 3 heavyweight, let alone top 5.
All of this is so silly. Joshua and Wilder are clearly the top two fighters on the planet. They should fight each other. All of Joshua's fans whining all of the time is getting old.
He's the A-side. He deserves 60-70% of the money. But make the fight. Let's stop all the speculating. They can just fight each other and we'll find out who the best is.Comment
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Stiverne hasn't beat anyone ever really but should have put up a fight regardless . He gave up after the first knock down and dared Wilder a little to much prior staying outside punching range distance . I know one thing if some ppl that he told to put up their houses and cars bc he guaranteed a win listened ,well .......... lol
With a win like that we can really hear how everyone is going to be ducking him for months now and how bad he will beat up Joshua just like how much better he got when Joshua pummled Takam for 10 rnds winning every rnd . lolComment
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The klitschko AJ beat absolutely starches the Stiverne wilder beat first time round.And? How does that change the fact that Wilder still has the highest ranked win on his resume of any current heavyweight champion?
Yet over and over the trolls cry that Wilder has "never faced a top 10 contender" or other such nonsense.
Wilder has a top 3 win. AJ's best is #6. Don't even get us started on Parker.
You know it.. i know it.. we all know it..
**** your TBRB or whatever bull**** ranks you like to pull our of your arse zero to suit yout arguments.
Stiverne is ****e.. has always been ****e and no TBRB website ranks are going to change that. Also.. the WBC are #1 thing you have going on.. thats subjective and opinion based, stop spouting it like it has any basis..it makes you look a bigger **** than everyone on this board already thinks you are.
Fanny boy..Comment
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What?!Now? Sure. At their peaks? No. You can't just rewrite history. Wilder shut out Stiverne when Stiverne had the #1 belt and was universally regarded as the #2 or #3 heavyweight in the world.
Joshua has never defeated a top 3 heavyweight, let alone top 5.
All of this is so silly. Joshua and Wilder are clearly the top two fighters on the planet. They should fight each other. All of Joshua's fans whining all of the time is getting old.
He's the A-side. He deserves 60-70% of the money. But make the fight. Let's stop all the speculating. They can just fight each other and we'll find out who the best is.
Klitschko wasn't a top 3 heavyweight? The 41 year old version of Klitschko is light years ahead of the best version of Bermane Stiverne.Comment
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You're entitled to your opinion. But what's not an opinion is that Klitschko was coming off a loss and a very long layoff. Which meant Klitschko was no longer ranked in the top 10 of any credible ranking system. If you lose and then stop fighting for a year and a half, you're understandably removed from the rankings.
So AJ's highest ranked win is #6. Wilder's is #3. If the facts bother you, too bad.
We personally would favor AJ over Wilder. Nothing but respect for AJ. But those insisting Wilder has never faced a top 5 fighter are lying. It's AJ that has never faced a top 5 fighter.Comment
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Thanks for confirming my original post. All sound and logical reasoning goes out of the window with you because it contradicts what is written on a rankings sheet.You're entitled to your opinion. But what's not an opinion is that Klitschko was coming off a loss and a very long layoff. Which meant Klitschko was no longer ranked in the top 10 of any credible ranking system. If you lose and then stop fighting for a year and a half, you're understandably removed from the rankings.
So AJ's highest ranked win is #6. Wilder's is #3. If the facts bother you, too bad.
We personally would favor AJ over Wilder. Nothing but respect for AJ. But those insisting Wilder has never faced a top 5 fighter are lying. It's AJ that has never faced a top 5 fighter.
The Klitschko that AJ beat is and always will be better than the stiverne wilder beat first time round.
That klitschko was better than the klitschko rated #1 on your bull**** list when stiverne was rated #3.
If you cant grow balls and admit that, purely because it isnt written in any of your almighty rankings.. then you arent a fan of boxing...youre just an **** "fact" spewer who cares more about the feeling of being "right" than of the health of the sport you say youre a fan of.
Also.. and because i have a right to my opinion.. my opinion is youre still a twat.Comment
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And yet we can all agree that Stiverne never had the skill, class, speed or power of Klitschko. I liked what Wilder did tonight but Stiverne was a willing, walking punching bag. Good opponents have mobility...Stiverne has NONE.Comment
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