Why does anyone care about Povetkin or Ortiz

[john l]

I didn't defend Povetkin for the ostarine fail. I don't know what he was thinking taking that risk so soon after his first controversy. Maybe "**** it"?

The meldonium thing was a straight up joke though. He did nothing wrong and didn't even test positive per VADA/WADA thresholds. The whole debacle seemed very political & they issued a symbolic punishment rather than admit they botched the testing.

Even the meldonium thing was bs.He took test AFTER it was banned and came up clean and then takes another a month or so later and POOF its back in system.Just don't get how anybody can defend,support guys who have been caught at least twice.smdh

[john l]

Because Both Povetkin and King Kong are great commie Fighters
Well schooled, quiet, throwing mean combinations beautyful to watch unlike windmill or a Cross fitter

So because u like them and their politics its ok????????And you do realize Russia is not communist anymore right?And cuba about done with it too

[Commie]

Go to a communist country dude get a free education

[john l]

Go to a communist country dude get a free education

Where China????

[john l]

Go to a communist country dude get a free education

Now I'm getting this ALT business. How u got all those green k when u have a couple dozen posts??

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Even the meldonium thing was bs.He took test AFTER it was banned and came up clean and then takes another a month or so later and POOF its back in system.Just don't get how anybody can defend,support guys who have been caught at least twice.smdh

Meldonium is notorious for lurking in trace amounts but that wouldn't even matter. He never actually tested positive. The amounts detected were way below the VADA/WADA threshold for a positive result.

[john l]

Meldonium is notorious for lurking in trace amounts but that wouldn't even matter. He never actually tested positive. The amounts detected were way below the VADA/WADA threshold for a positive result.

???????? Then how the hell did it COME UP POSITIVE?????????????

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???????? Then how the hell did it COME UP POSITIVE?????????????

He did not. Traces were detected but they were far below the WADA/VADA threshold for a formal positive.

[john l]

He did not. Traces were detected but they were far below the WADA/VADA threshold for a formal positive.

It was enough for them to pull plug on fight??????? I know Wilder left but if he had no reason in their eyes then he would have been stripped,Plus he lost his #1 spot,sounds like a failed test, looks like a failed test and smells to high heaven.

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It was enough for them to pull plug on fight??????? I know Wilder left but if he had no reason in their eyes then he would have been stripped,Plus he lost his #1 spot,sounds like a failed test, looks like a failed test and smells to high heaven.

At first the WBC said Wilder cancelled and Wilder said the WBC cancelled it. I believe it was DiBella (Wilder's manager) because he was throwing fits on Twitter saying the fight is off unconditionally.

Ultimately while Povetkin's blood levels were legal according to WADA/VADA guidelines and the fight should have proceeded under boxing jurisdiction, the teams sued/countersued each other in regular court and an American jury (who aren't subject to VADA/WADA and were merely deciding on initial fault/financial damages) ruled in favor of Wilder. Wilder was to be paid 5 million dollars without having to fight, which I believe is by far his highest ever purse.

Pulling the plug on the fight (if it was him) turned out to be the smartest thing he's ever done.

From my research meldonium is notoriously difficult to get out of one's system and it's quite unlikely Povetkin was taking recent/useful dosages if his levels were so far below the legal threshold but the WBC's initial panic and DiBella's pressure effectively moved the case from VADA jurisdiction to the courts.

Why Povetkin chose to take a pseudoanabolic (ostarine) a fight or two later is the real question and kind of a slap in the face to those of us who defended his meldonium plight.