Why does anyone care about Povetkin or Ortiz

[john l]

Cheats I mean cmon what is it 2or 3 now for each.If someone dies or gets really hurt and after his opponent tests dirty(and you know its gonna happen prob soon)It will be a really bad for our sport.(not to mention fighter,family.

[MaksBox]

Cheats I mean cmon what is it 2or 3 now for each.If someone dies or gets really hurt and after his opponent tests dirty(and you know its gonna happen prob soon)It will be a really bad for our sport.(not to mention fighter,family.

I replied to your post in the other topic...

BUT.... in the case of Povetkin, the amounts that popped were minimal, with ZERO PROOF that he took it after it was banned. ZERO.

In either case, was not going to make any difference anyway and was tested clean the day of the fights which were supposed to happen.

Ortiz was popped for steroids the first time, yes.
The blood pressure meds, could they have been covering something? sure... but in any case, this was a paperwork issue.

More people would die from bad refs than people taking stuff.

If you care about folks not dying... then let's ban ALL vitamins too, right?

The reason why folks should care about Povetkin and Ortiz is that in the heavyweight division, no one comes close to their skill and they are being kept away from the $$$.

There is too much money being invested in Wilder Vs AJ and both would be destroyed if either takes a loss.... Wilder more so as at least AJ has Wlad on his resume.

If Wilder faced Povetkin or Ortiz and lost... that's it... game over for him. It would only confirm what most boxing fans already know, Chikenlegs is pure size and no skill.

[john l]

18 monthes 1st off, 2nd 3 years and 3rd gone for life.This 6 month susp s hite is a joke.Promoters,alph bit boys don't want to spend on REAL testing(24,7,365) wait till lawsuits start coming.I realize sometimes its a mistake but 18 mths would give them enough to triple check everthing their taking.

[Mammoth]

I want them to fight each other jacked up on all the best rouds

[john l]

I replied to your post in the other topic...

BUT.... in the case of Povetkin, the amounts that popped were minimal, with ZERO PROOF that he took it after it was banned. ZERO.

In either case, was not going to make any difference anyway and was tested clean the day of the fights which were supposed to happen.

Ortiz was popped for steroids the first time, yes.
The blood pressure meds, could they have been covering something? sure... but in any case, this was a paperwork issue.

More people would die from bad refs than people taking stuff.

If you care about folks not dying... then let's ban ALL vitamins too, right?

The reason why folks should care about Povetkin and Ortiz is that in the heavyweight division, no one comes close to their skill and they are being kept away from the $$$.

There is too much money being invested in Wilder Vs AJ and both would be destroyed if either takes a loss.... Wilder more so as at least AJ has Wlad on his resume.

If Wilder faced Povetkin or Ortiz and lost... that's it... game over for him. It would only confirm what most boxing fans already know, Chikenlegs is pure size and no skill.

I don't get that at all what ur sayin sorry but VITAMINS what the hell does that got to do with anything. You do get they don't work like peds.To me it sounds like you don't care what they take as long as they beat the guy you don't like Wilder.

[john l]

And povetkin tested dirty before this last one.

[john l]

I replied to your post in the other topic...

BUT.... in the case of Povetkin, the amounts that popped were minimal, with ZERO PROOF that he took it after it was banned. ZERO.

In either case, was not going to make any difference anyway and was tested clean the day of the fights which were supposed to happen.

Ortiz was popped for steroids the first time, yes.
The blood pressure meds, could they have been covering something? sure... but in any case, this was a paperwork issue.

More people would die from bad refs than people taking stuff.

If you care about folks not dying... then let's ban ALL vitamins too, right?

The reason why folks should care about Povetkin and Ortiz is that in the heavyweight division, no one comes close to their skill and they are being kept away from the $$$.

There is too much money being invested in Wilder Vs AJ and both would be destroyed if either takes a loss.... Wilder more so as at least AJ has Wlad on his resume.

If Wilder faced Povetkin or Ortiz and lost... that's it... game over for him. It would only confirm what most boxing fans already know, Chikenlegs is pure size and no skill.

And how would losing to either of those guys mean ANYTHING. And you do know Wilder signed to fight BOTH and both FAILED tests

[john l]

I want them to fight each other jacked up on all the best rouds

Don't agree but that would be better than what we got.At least it would be even playing field.God you will know when its bad when instead of Trainer of the year they give out pharmacy of the year.

[jmrf4435]

everyone in the heavyweight division is juicing

[jmrf4435]

maybe not anabolic steroids, but they all taking diuretics, and a ton of other banned ****