Why does anyone care about Povetkin or Ortiz

[john l]

I really don't think Wilder is.And I don't really think Joshua is either.He sure as s hite aint blood doping with his stamina.

[Vlad_]

Ortiz is a clown, but what’s your problem with Povetkin exactly? All top athletes take things to help their performance, many on the edge of legality. If a product or supplement is considered illegal from one week to the next, that is not the athlete’s fault.

[john l]

maybe not anabolic steroids, but they all taking diuretics, and a ton of other banned ****

why would a heavy take diuretics?But I don't agree ALL are taking stuff.Most,probably but I'm pretty sure wilder is clean and prob joshua

[john l]

Ortiz is a clown, but what’s your problem with Povetkin exactly? All top athletes take things to help their performance, many on the edge of legality. If a product or supplement is considered illegal from one week to the next, that is not the athlete’s fault.

Because he has failed as many tests as Oztiz has!!! Twice before Stiverne and before Wilder. Whats the diff between them?

[john l]

And that bs about that last one with him sayin he took it before it got banned is BS.he had tests in between and no melod and THEN it just happens to pop back in somhow without him takin it anymore.If you believe that then I got some...........u know rest

[Guest]

It's hard to imagine that either of these guys would get championship fights ever again. Who is going to touch them?

By the time this stuff blows over (if it ever does) they will both be past 40 anyways.

[john l]

It's hard to imagine that either of these guys would get championship fights ever again. Who is going to touch them?

By the time this stuff blows over (if it ever does) they will both be past 40 anyways.

Listen to half of these posters! they don't care! you watch both these ***in cheaters will get a shot before long esp pov.Athough I don't see how or why.

[john l]

Money talks louder in this sport then any other and both but esp Pov have money invested in them.

[bballchump11]

Agreed, and people who defend them would probably crucify Wilder if he took what they took just once. These guys are repeat offenders.

They should fight each other and then **** off forever.

[iamboxing]

I agree with OP, they shouldn't even be mentioned as potential opponents at this point.