Who Should Deontay Wilder Fight Next!

[sotgoda]

If he's a bum it's easy money surely? And it guarantees a shot at AJ.. so why not? And who will he fight if not Whyte? If defending Whyte is shamefull.. Defending Wilder is disgraceful.

Fighting Whyte does not guarantee Wilder that he fights AJ. The only guarantee is when a legally binding contract is in place. This is what all Wilder fans have been saying repeatedly. Talk is cheap. Now, if Eddie presents a contract with good financial terms to fight Whyte and a legally binding agreement for AJ to face Wilder next in a fair revenue distribution (60/40 for AJ), then I expect Wilder to sign it. If he doesn't, I will be among the 1st set of people calling him out for being pathetic and making excuses. So, when we see a fair, legally binding contract, then we can talk!

[sotgoda]

Why would his ranking for one sanctioning body mean a darned thing to me and my argument. He's ranked in the top 5 in two other ones. Boom. Mike drop. Who cares? Wilder's current opponent struggled against a gatekeeper in the one fight he had in years and remained the mandatory challenger. Fres Oquendo (yes that Fres Oquendo) hasn't fought since 2014 and is still ranked in the top 3 in one sanctioning body.

You can drop as many mics as you've got, but Wilder is a WBC champion - so if he is not facing mandatories, he needs to face fighters that are helping him achieve his ultimate goal , i.e., to unify titles. Miller is not one of them. Further, the WBC will need to sanction a fight against an unranked Miller who also will need to go through VADA. That is my point! No genuine Wilder fan, including myself, wants to see Wilder-Stiverne 2, but Uncle Don King has paid off the WBC to keep Stiverne's position. That is the problem.

[sotgoda]

Well Takam has been in my top 10 for many years now, and I'm not even a Joshua fan, you can check my post history and you will find me saying he's stiff and Fury beats him from early 2016. I also rated Takam higher than Joshua but below Wilder as of 1 year ago. I can't be bothered finding my top 10 list but it's there.

I don't have to defend Whyte's record as I know the level he is on, which is the same level as ALL Wilder's opponents, so what's the problem for Wilder fighting Whyte for million when he is better than Spzilka and Arreola?

You can't defend this. It would be Wilders biggest payday and most well-known opponent to date.

You make some good points here. I think Takam is a good fighter - not sure if I'd rate him higher than AJ at any point save for an unfortunate upset. Even then, I think AJ has God-given physical skills to make life difficult for Takam.

On Whyte, we are going to have to agree to disagree. I think Stiverne and Duhuapas are better than Whyte. I consider Whyte to be on the same level as Molina. I could see Arreola beating Whyte or vice-versa. But compared to the rest of guys Wilder has fought outside these, I agree with you.

[GGG Gloveking]

"Some OTHER Bum" is in reference to Wilder's resume which is already stacked full of bums. I mean it's pretty easy to workout.

Like I said, Whyte isn't a elite heavyweight. But it's the Wilder fans that say Whyte is a bum.. All I'm saying is if he's a bum, then he's going to be Wilder's best bum he's faced thus far.. If you don't agree with best bum, can we agree he's one of Wilder's top 3.

But as my main post made clear.. It's not the Whyte fight, it's what comes after the Whyte fight! Guaranteed shot at AJ.. Is that not a good enough reason to make the fight?

I appreciate the explanation. Both the other guy and I were relating "some other bum" to the names on the list, rather than Wilders previous opponents. Sometimes what's obvious to the writer isn't so obvious to the reader.

But to the point, yes, if there is a guarantee of a Joshua fight after Whyte, Wilder is a fool to not jump on the opportunity. I would want something in writing.

[NahMean]

Fighting Whyte does not guarantee Wilder that he fights AJ. The only guarantee is when a legally binding contract is in place. This is what all Wilder fans have been saying repeatedly. Talk is cheap. Now, if Eddie presents a contract with good financial terms to fight Whyte and a legally binding agreement for AJ to face Wilder next in a fair revenue distribution (60/40 for AJ), then I expect Wilder to sign it. If he doesn't, I will be among the 1st set of people calling him out for being pathetic and making excuses. So, when we see a fair, legally binding contract, then we can talk!

Why do you assume there is no contract? Provide me one example where Hearn promised a fight but failed to make it or even attempt to make it?.. I'll wait.

Hearn has stayed true to his word in the past so I see no reason to doubt him. He said AJ will be ringside for Whyte vs Wilder and would enter the ring after to agree to fight the winner (like Klitschko did with AJ). Do you thing they would pull this stunt without being serious? AJ would lose all credibility if they did that but didn't end up fighting him.

[LetOutTheCage]

I don't understand why Wilder doesn't want to fight Whyte. The build-up would be brilliant and it would be Wilder's biggest fight and make him millions....plus the winner is guaranteed a HUGE fight a few months later.

This makes all the sense in the world to me, but apparently Wilder's team and fans don't agree?

Because Whyte would be a step up from who he has previously fought and would pose an actual threat. Wilder is looking to cash out against AJ

[sotgoda]

Why do you assume there is no contract? Provide me one example where Hearn promised a fight but failed to make it or even attempt to make it?.. I'll wait.

Hearn has stayed true to his world in the past so I see no reason to doubt him. He said AJ will be ringside for Whyte vs Wilder and would enter the ring after to agree to fight the winner (like Klitschko did with AJ). Do you thing they would pull this stunt without being serious? AJ would lose all credibility if they did that but didn't end up fighting him.

Go on youtube and listen to Jay Deas on Thaboxingvoice. His response was not that of someone who had received a contract for Wilder based on what Eddie is ******ly trying to negotiate via the media. That is my point.

We are going to have to agree to disagree here. You believe Eddie is credible. I believe he is a pathetic liar and can provide other evidence of fighters contradicting what Eddie says was a good offer. The most recent example was Dominic Breazeale who wanted to fight Whyte but said the offer was too low for the amount of risk, even though Eddie was saying it was this fantastic offer. Eddie does not have to get in the boxing ring so he can talk all the crap he likes, but the boxers are the ones that need to protect themselves both in and out of the ring.

[NahMean]

I appreciate the explanation. Both the other guy and I were relating "some other bum" to the names on the list, rather than Wilders previous opponents. Sometimes what's obvious to the writer isn't so obvious to the reader.

But to the point, yes, if there is a guarantee of a Joshua fight after Whyte, Wilder is a fool to not jump on the opportunity. I would want something in writing.

I've being accused of being a Whyte fanboy lol. I think Whyte is on the same level as Szpilka, Stiverne ect.. Never once did I say he was some killer at HW. It's Wilder fans that are calling him a bum.. well, that just means they agree all of Wilder's other opponents have been bums because they are on the same level as Whyte.

That's all I've been say.. Make the Whyte vs Wilder so we get AJ vs Wilder. If Hearn doesn't live up to his word then he loses all credibility and we can call him out for it.. But judging by Hearn's past.. He's followed up on his promise so I see no reason do doubt him.

[DuckAdonis]

Anthony Joshua

[GGG Gloveking]

I've being accused of being a Whyte fanboy lol. I think Whyte is on the same level as Szpilka, Stiverne ect.. Never once did I say he was some killer at HW. It's Wilder fans that are calling him a bum.. well, that just means they agree all of Wilder's other opponents have been bums because they are on the same level as Whyte.

That's all I've been say.. Make the Whyte vs Wilder so we get AJ vs Wilder. If Hearn doesn't live up to his word then he loses all credibility and we can call him out for it.. But judging by Hearn's past.. He's followed up on his promise so I see no reason do doubt him.

Like Whyte is good enough to have any fanboys...

I'm a Wilder fan, and I'm having trouble with him not fighting Whyte to get Joshua. I would have rather seen Wilder v Whyte leading up to AJ, than waste time with Stiverne.