I agree I absolutely make no sense to delusional AJ fans like you. Parker has 12 months before he satisfies his mandatory obligation does not mean he cannot unify if his team thinks he is ready. Duncan obviously wants him to improve his game - but won't it be funny if AJ puts enough money on the table to buy another belt from Parker as he did for Charles Martin? Then, it is the same delusional fans like you that will say that Parker is ready and is a risky fight for AJ - when you just said previously that he is not ready.
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Ok...?? Not sure where you're going. You commented that the poll was ******, saying it implies Whyte isn't a bum. I offered my thoughts on why it was worded correctly and included Whyte as a bum.The only one I am talking about here who is not a "bum" is Wlad, although based on his age, him coming off a loss, lack of activity for 1.5 years and having no belt, we could argue that he was in "bum" mode at this stage of his career. But, let's give AJ credit for sending him into retirement albeit reluctantly for the latter.
Now, you're talking about Wlad?Comment
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I read the option "other bum" differently from you. When AJ's delusional fans refer to other bums when speaking about Wilder, they typically mean that everyone he has fought is a bum.
My argument is that by that measure, Whyte and Breazeale are also bums in my opinion, and as such should not be separated. The OP does not think they are.
Separating them, in my own view, makes them seem like they are not bums, but that Wilder will choose another person who AJ fans will now call a bum.
Hence, the word "other" meant to me anyone else Wilder chooses that is not one of these 2 guys listed.Comment
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Well Takam has been in my top 10 for many years now, and I'm not even a Joshua fan, you can check my post history and you will find me saying he's stiff and Fury beats him from early 2016. I also rated Takam higher than Joshua but below Wilder as of 1 year ago. I can't be bothered finding my top 10 list but it's there.Suddenly now, because AJ is fighting Takam, now Takam beats everyone else that Wilder has fought. This is very sad but unfortunately AJ's delusional fans' logic. FYI, Duhuapas knocked our Helenius whom your favorite Whyte is now trying to fight. You can check that out on Youtube.
It is very pitiful to see you even defend Whyte's record - who has he fought again? He couldn't outwork Chisora who is a brawler, not a boxer. How then can he outwork Duhuapas, Andy Ruiz (who many feel beat Joseph Parker - I thought the match was a draw imo). Whyte avoided fighting Marius Wach in May saying his foot was bothering him - pathetic excuse. I stand by my statement. Whyte is at best 50-50 with 1, maybe 2, at most in that list. Everyone else beats him.
I don't have to defend Whyte's record as I know the level he is on, which is the same level as ALL Wilder's opponents, so what's the problem for Wilder fighting Whyte for million when he is better than Spzilka and Arreola?
You can't defend this. It would be Wilders biggest payday and most well-known opponent to date.Comment
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They offered Wilder a career high payday but he still didn't take the fight.. No one is saying Whyte is a elite heavyweight! So it's a familiar opponent level as Wilder has never faced an elite heavyweight.. why does Wilder want 7million to fight Whyte then?When it favors you brits, you say now that Whyte is #3. How did he get his ranking again? The rankings for #4 to #9 are below:
4 .- Andy Ruiz (Mexico)
5 .- Carlos Takam (Cameroon)
6 .- Dominic Breazeale (US)
7 .- Mariusz Wach (Poland)
8 .- Dereck Chisora (GB)
9 .- Johann Duhaupas (France)
In my opinion, 4, 5, 7 and 9 beat Whyte anytime and any day. Then #6 is a 50-50 fight while #8 beat him already at the beginning of the year but was robbed. So, what's exactly your point? Hearn definitely paid to have Whyte up in the ranking just as Don King must have done for Stiverne as well.
Also, why did Whyte not fight anyone else in the top 10 since Chisora? Helenius is #16 in the WBC ranking - this is very sad. After Chisora, Gerald Washington offered to fight Whyte but was ignored by Eddie and Whyte saying he is not part of their plan -were they scared of him too?
Whyte was supposed to fight Marius Wach in May 2017. Suddenly, his foot began to bother him, and the fight vanished into thin air. Then, he sought out 44-year old Michael Grant who was born in the 1800s to fight and on a 3-fight losing streak.
When the fans complained, he fought 37 or 38 year old Malcolm Tann and then began to call out Wilder. You all should be ashamed of yourself for defending Whyte. I guess his fans are just as bad as he is.
If he's a bum it's easy money surely? And it guarantees a shot at AJ.. so why not? And who will he fight if not Whyte? If defending Whyte is shamefull.. Defending Wilder is disgraceful.Comment
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Why would his ranking for one sanctioning body mean a darned thing to me and my argument. He's ranked in the top 5 in two other ones. Boom. Mike drop. Who cares? Wilder's current opponent struggled against a gatekeeper in the one fight he had in years and remained the mandatory challenger. Fres Oquendo (yes that Fres Oquendo) hasn't fought since 2014 and is still ranked in the top 3 in one sanctioning body.Comment
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I am not saying Whyte is a bum. I just don't think he's so damned good that he needs to be the Goro to Anthony Joshua's Shao Kahn.Comment
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I don't know who the OP roots for, and neither of us really know his context without directly asking. I do think it's grammatically incorrect to say some "other" bum, without there being an "initial" bum. Of course, we're not bound to the rules of proper grammar. I can only speak for myself, but I would have used "some bum", rather than "some other bum" if I weren't including a bum in my initial options. I saw it being a list of named bums, and the option for an 'unnamed' bum.I read the option "other bum" differently from you. When AJ's delusional fans refer to other bums when speaking about Wilder, they typically mean that everyone he has fought is a bum.
My argument is that by that measure, Whyte and Breazeale are also bums in my opinion, and as such should not be separated. The OP does not think they are.
Separating them, in my own view, makes them seem like they are not bums, but that Wilder will choose another person who AJ fans will now call a bum.
Hence, the word "other" meant to me anyone else Wilder chooses that is not one of these 2 guys listed.
Maybe we can settle this. OP, do you think Whyte is a bum?Comment
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You're too ****** to do your own research and don't have a clue of the heavyweight landscape.. You don't even have the brain capacity to read.I agree I absolutely make no sense to delusional AJ fans like you Parker has 12 months before he satisfies his mandatory obligation does not mean he cannot unify if his team thinks he is ready. Duncan obviously wants him to improve his game - but won't it be funny if AJ puts enough money on the table to buy another belt from Parker as he did for Charles Martin? Then, it is the same delusional fans like you that will say that Parker is ready and is a risky fight for AJ - when you just said previously that he is not ready.
"Parker has 12 months before he satisfies his mandatory obligation does not mean he cannot unify if his team thinks he is ready"
You idiot.. It says it in black and white that they don't think Parker is ready! They want the 12months to work on his skills.. How ****** can you get?
"Parker has 12 months.. He should use the time to do some tinkering instead of jumping in the ring with a Joshua or Wilder."
You're a brain dead Wilder fanboy.. Stop sucking his nuts dry and tell us who Wilder should fight next?Comment
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"Some OTHER Bum" is in reference to Wilder's resume which is already stacked full of bums. I mean it's pretty easy to workout.I don't know who the OP roots for, and neither of us really know his context without directly asking. I do think it's grammatically incorrect to say some "other" bum, without there being an "initial" bum. Of course, we're not bound to the rules of proper grammar. I can only speak for myself, but I would have used "some bum", rather than "some other bum" if I weren't including a bum in my initial options. I saw it being a list of named bums, and the option for an 'unnamed' bum.
Maybe we can settle this. OP, do you think Whyte is a bum?
Like I said, Whyte isn't a elite heavyweight. But it's the Wilder fans that say Whyte is a bum.. All I'm saying is if he's a bum, then he's going to be Wilder's best bum he's faced thus far.. If you don't agree with best bum, can we agree he's one of Wilder's top 3.
But as my main post made clear.. It's not the Whyte fight, it's what comes after the Whyte fight! Guaranteed shot at AJ.. Is that not a good enough reason to make the fight?Last edited by NahMean; 10-22-2017, 09:57 AM.Comment
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