How Come PAVLIK DIDN'T Ask HOPKINS For A 164?

[john l]

whats big deal pavlik was very good but bhop beats him at every weight at almost anytime.not counting after 49

[Zaryu]

Because Pavlik wasn't smart enough to try and even it out by having BHop meet him a little bit lower in weight. The truth is the fight wouldn't have happened either, so maybe Pavlik had bigger balls than Hopkins too.

[john l]

Because Pavlik wasn't smart enough to try and even it out by having BHop meet him a little bit lower in weight. The truth is the fight wouldn't have happened either, so maybe Pavlik had bigger balls than Hopkins too.

no as a lot of other people have pointed out he was fav and thought he could beat him at 170.and that aint all that far from even 167 and half plus hop beats him whenever,no did 2 pav he was very good imo

[Lester Tutor]

I don't know Jim... I mean Bhop was calling out Floyd at 160 years later... be it trolling or not.

Pavlik dared to be great at 170 and come back down to 160. Didnt Golovkin call out Bhop at the full 175 in 2013, 168 for Chaves and Froch...

But someone on a different level at 164?!
aboutfkntime

[Zaryu]

no as a lot of other people have pointed out he was fav and thought he could beat him at 170.and that aint all that far from even 167 and half plus hop beats him whenever,no did 2 pav he was very good imo

I never said anything to the contrary. Pavlik could have still been smarter and lowered the catch weight.

[john l]

I never said anything to the contrary. Pavlik could have still been smarter and lowered the catch weight.

yes he could was just sayin would have made no diff.but we seem to be on same page

[john l]

except the balls part

[Curt Henning]

I don't know Jim... I mean Bhop was calling out Floyd at 160 years later... be it trolling or not.

Pavlik dared to be great at 170 and come back down to 160. Didnt Golovkin call out Bhop at the full 175 in 2013, 168 for Chaves and Froch...

But someone on a different level at 164?!
aboutfkntime

you had it right the first time...he just had bigger balls and wanted to fight the best to see who the best was....the lil g dont have those kind of balls......these guys will give you every excuse "oh pavlik is not smart"...."oh pavlik was the favorite".....blah blah

it all boils down to one guy not giving a flying ****...and the other guy making sure he carefully calculates his career in fights he thinks he favored in or or believes he can win....simple as that

[kafkod]

I don't know Jim... I mean Bhop was calling out Floyd at 160 years later... be it trolling or not.

Pavlik dared to be great at 170 and come back down to 160. Didnt Golovkin call out Bhop at the full 175 in 2013, 168 for Chaves and Froch...

But someone on a different level at 164?!
aboutfkntime

Ward was also calling out Floyd at 160, but GGG had to go up to 168 for him.

Strange how them big balls Ward had when he was calling out Floyd shrivelled up when GGG's name was mentioned innit?

[Mr.Fantastic]

Are PAVLIK's American balls bigger than those from Kazakhstan? Just curious.

How come Floyd didn't ask Canelo for 154 instead of 152?