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  • Originally posted by lightsout_finit
    what a load of b*llocks



    And yet no one has heard of him...
    He's never even been in a big fight...

    He seems to be failing miserably at "building his promotional company"

    lol



    When did I say that?
    And you question my comprehension...



    When someone refuses to fight one the biggest names of modern boxing (Cotto) to instead fight a glass chinned journeyman half his size (pederson) It looks like fear...
    I think we are arguing two different points. But if we are talking a bout the same thing Let's agree to disagree. Good luck to spence and his future promotions, good luck to Coto versus Ali and good luck to you.

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    • Originally posted by LADIV View Post
      from golden boy or schaefer whent and sold them to haymon without oscar knowing
      There could have been some shadiness going on, but that was the direction Haymon was taking his fighters, evident in the way his fighters' are doing business now. I mean Oscar did the same with Leo Santa Cruz's contract after Shaefer left.

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      • Everybody wants to be post-Oscar Mayweather when they are pre-Tzsyu Ricky Hatton.

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        • Originally posted by jjsmyth87 View Post
          Hes not getting paid 3.5 mill where did you read that garbage lol spence said himself fans will believe anything. He only made a million to fight kell brook which is a much bigger fight. The Only guys getting paid that much are on ppv which pbc doesnt have any ppv fighters because they suck at promoting their fighters. Terence Crawford will be a ppv star before any pbc guys because arum knows how to build ppv fighters. If Spence wants to really be a ppv fighter he needs to sign to a major promoter. Also he only fought once this year, same as mostof the other pbc guys so how is it benefitial not being signed? The problem with pbc is they arent signed to a promoter so there is nobody making them fight the tough fights, well thats just one of the many problems, so for a guy like spence who could easily become a ppv star and could beat anyone at 147 he is not benefitting. The only ones benefitting are the ones who dont care about making history and want to be able to cherry pick
          You won't get any arguement from me. In the grand scheme of things Spence and Garcia blew a big oppurtunity.

          I also believe it was Dan Rafael who said 3.5 million.

          And again I will say it again people are very critical of Golden Boy Promotions yet they keep all levels of their talent active and give them multiple platforms whether it be Estrella, ESPN, HBO or HBO Pay Per View yet fans can't seperate professional to personal beliefs. In my opinion.

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          • Originally posted by Lou Cipher View Post
            Everybody wants to be post-Oscar Mayweather when they are pre-Tzsyu Ricky Hatton.
            Now this is absolutely funny and has a lot of truth behind it.

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            • Spence still has to pay

              Even the Spence doesnt have a promoter he still has to pay whoever put on the fight and promoted it. He doesn't have a contract with the promoter so he isn't obligated to the promotional company afterwards and is free to fight who he wants when he wants where he wants if it's agreed apon by the opposite party. He isn't really cutting out any middle man because he doesn't have his own company yet he just pays the opponents promotional company to handle all the promoting and advertising for the fight instead of having his own promoter and paying him. There is still a middle man that he has to pay regardless.

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              • Originally posted by lightsout_finit
                I have agree with those saying this is a bad move.
                Beating or stopping Cotto even at this stage in his career would significantly raise any fighters profile.

                A highlight reel ko of Cotto would certainly get noticed by casuals and people would actually remember Spences name.


                I'm surprised to see so many who think this is a good move.
                Because lets face it destroying Peterson instead means less than nothing.

                I actually like Spence but he wasn't anywhere near as good
                as I expected him to be against Brook.
                This is probably down to lack of experience
                I actually think Cotto would cause him serious problems maybe even beat Spence.

                To those of you saying this isn't a duck.
                The kid just turned down a fight with one of the biggest names in the sport who is also an old man to instead fight Lamont Peterson. That doesn't look good and It's certainly not going to help his career.
                Well Mikey and Errol both had the same explanation. Mikey Garcia gets a pass because he literally JUST got out of a 2 year layoff due to contractual dispute with TR. I have no issue if he NEVER inks with a promoter again.

                Meanwhile Errol Spence is almost 30 and basically nobody knows him and his marquee win was against an already battered Kell Brook...AND Kell was doing well up until late in the fight. So, again, it's not like Errol walked through Brook who is largely considered a Top 10 WW, but possibly not even Top 5. Sadly that's just the truth. Spence's lone win over Shawn Porter (which was a very close contest) doesn't mean he'd have competed with Floyd, Manny, Bradley, Cotto, etc. All of those guys would've beaten him in different fashion.

                Bad look for Errol Spence because he's supposed to have all this talent...yet no fights to back it up and part of that is because he has...NO PROMOTER lmfao.

                And, you're RIGHT. HE PASSED UP A CAREER DEFINING FIGHT...bc he's "already making good money".

                Way to go idiot.

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                • Originally posted by lightsout_finit
                  I have agree with those saying this is a bad move.
                  Beating or stopping Cotto even at this stage in his career would significantly raise any fighters profile.

                  A highlight reel ko of Cotto would certainly get noticed by casuals and people would actually remember Spences name.


                  I'm surprised to see so many who think this is a good move.
                  Because lets face it destroying Peterson instead means less than nothing.

                  I actually like Spence but he wasn't anywhere near as good
                  as I expected him to be against Brook.
                  This is probably down to lack of experience
                  I actually think Cotto would cause him serious problems maybe even beat Spence.

                  To those of you saying this isn't a duck.
                  The kid just turned down a fight with one of the biggest names in the sport who is also an old man to instead fight Lamont Peterson. That doesn't look good and It's certainly not going to help his career.
                  You're delusional. Who the **** wants to do business with a slimeball who tries to lawball you into a binding contract like that?

                  Would you let someone like that take control of your career and large chunks of your purses?

                  You're full of hate man for even trying to pretend this deal is any good for any fighter, not just Spence.

                  Aint no one ducking Cotto, literally no fighter in the world is scared of Cotto. I bet you would have been the first one to discredit Spence's victory, as soon as he knocked Cotto out you'd be the first one to run to nsb and discredit the victory.

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                  • Fight once a year on a sinking ship instead. Dumb. Should have signed with GB, beat the crap out of Cotto and made a bigger name for himself. “But free tv”

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                    • Originally posted by Motorcity Cobra View Post
                      That's what I've been trying to explain to these fools on here. Better to cash out & make money on Cotto's last fight than to possibly lose money. Especially with Garcia. He'd fight Cotto then turn around & fight Linares. You essentially got him for two fights. Maybe 3 if any of those fights are close. ****** of Golden Boy to turn down Garcia because he wouldn't sign with you
                      The day I would’ve seen Garcia go up to 140, then 154, and back to 135, is the day everyone crowns him the GOAT.

                      That’s just playing dumb with weight.

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