Comments Thread For: Mikey Garcia: I Wouldn't Sign With Golden Boy to Get Cotto Fight

[Raonic]

Because he's one of the best fighters in the world and can make for an attractive, desirable main event?

But that's not enough for these greedy promoter scumbags. They want to pay him for this fight and then use that as an excuse to own him for several fights afterwards.

Why is it always 1 person's fault or the other?

There isn't anything wrong with GBP trying to sign Mikey to a long term contract and using Cottto as leverage. And there isn't anything wrong with Mikey asking for more money for a 1 fight deal.

The only problem I have is Mikey is trying to make it sound like GBP is the side at fault (and would have a problem if GBP made it seem like Mikey is at fault).

[jjsmyth87]

You said Garcia was trying to use them as a stepping stone, implying a cherrypick. Then you say he was bluffing as he had no intention of going up and fighting him and was scared. You cant pick both arguments. You are trying to say hes a cherrypicker and a coward of the same guy in the same sentence, how does that make any ****ing sense?


lol
"Look at me, this gives my terrible argument vaidity since I have none and no one pays attention or cares what I say."
Stop with the Gamboa ducking. No need to kill your "argument" right away.
If you would like to see Cotto spark Garcia out "as a boxing fan", then why are you against the fight being made, surely the big bad Cotto would demolish the littl...
Oh wait, you dont actually believe that. Which is why you were sweating bullets when Garcia announced his intentions and are now jumping for joy for the first time in your miserable life that Cotto doesnt head to the hospital instead of his retirement party. The truth is, you dont want Garcia to get the big fights he wants so he doesnt beat up fighters you actually like, and so he doesnt embarrass your pathetic cherrypicker argument and your haterade-fueled emotionally-ridden ass.

Stepping stone as in a big money fight with big exposure, he had no intention of taking the fight but if he did why would golden boy let him get all that exposure it doesnt benefit them, also im not much of a Cotto fan either I think he's another diva but I just call it like I see it. Personally I would much rather Cotto Lemieux and I think Lemiuex would have a chance to b hop him into retirement but obviously cotto wouldnt take that big of a risk as his last fight. I think Cotto is too big for Garcia and would beat him honestly and I would rather that fight than Ali but I'm just sick of Garcia acting like he wants to be really tested but would rather cherry pick hence why hes avoiding a promotional contract. Hes trying to use the mayweather blueprint except hasnt even earned his bones first. And I did used to be a Mikey Garcia fan

[glenn mcrory]

Stepping stone as in a big money fight with big exposure, he had no intention of taking the fight but if he did why would golden boy let him get all that exposure it doesnt benefit them, also im not much of a Cotto fan either I think he's another diva but I just call it like I see it. Personally I would much rather Cotto Lemieux and I think Lemiuex would have a chance to b hop him into retirement but obviously cotto wouldnt take that big of a risk as his last fight. I think Cotto is too big for Garcia and would beat him honestly and I would rather that fight than Ali but I'm just sick of Garcia acting like he wants to be really tested but would rather cherry pick hence why hes avoiding a promotional contract. Hes trying to use the mayweather blueprint except hasnt even earned his bones first. And I did used to be a Mikey Garcia fan

GB gets a bigger fight/card at the expense of a guy they wont be promoting anymore. Dont really see what they are losing here.

So you admit what I thought? You actually think(or pretend out of butthurt) Cotto would beat him and don't want the fight made so you can be proven wrong. Thats fine if true but be open about it. Dont try to hide between "cherrypicker" and "coward" when its obvious he would beat guys you say you think he shouldn't which is the farthest thing from a cherrypicker considering hes actually trying to fight them. Garcia would bop Cotto into retirement too, but you only seem to have an issue with Garcia retiring him, maybe because you want the image you have of him of "cherrypicker" to stay and actually encourage guys to duck him so he doesnt prove you wrong.

[jjsmyth87]

GB gets a bigger fight/card at the expense of a guy they wont be promoting anymore. Dont really see what they are losing here.

So you admit what I thought? You actually think(or pretend out of butthurt) Cotto would beat him and don't want the fight made so you can be proven wrong. Thats fine if true but be open about it. Dont try to hide between "cherrypicker" and "coward" when its obvious he would beat guys you say you think he shouldn't which is the farthest thing from a cherrypicker considering hes actually trying to fight them. Garcia would bop Cotto into retirement too, but you only seem to have an issue with Garcia retiring him, maybe because you want the image you have of him of "cherrypicker" to stay and actually encourage guys to duck him so he doesnt prove you wrong.

I think i explained my thoughts as clearly and honestly as I could, if you go back a little bit you will find me criticizing cotto a lot as well so don't say I have some kind of alterior motive for what I think because its just not true. I could care less who would win that fight but my opinion is Cotto wins and I wouldn't be upset in the slightest if garcia won it because im not a fan of either and I have predicted fights wrong before as everyone else on here has but dont say i fear that cotto would lose because I could care less either way and like I said id prefer that fight over cotto ali but i still think garcia wants to avoid real tests because of all the reasons i mentioned and that's all i really have to say about it your entitled to your opinion and so am i

[jjsmyth87]

GB gets a bigger fight/card at the expense of a guy they wont be promoting anymore. Dont really see what they are losing here.

So you admit what I thought? You actually think(or pretend out of butthurt) Cotto would beat him and don't want the fight made so you can be proven wrong. Thats fine if true but be open about it. Dont try to hide between "cherrypicker" and "coward" when its obvious he would beat guys you say you think he shouldn't which is the farthest thing from a cherrypicker considering hes actually trying to fight them. Garcia would bop Cotto into retirement too, but you only seem to have an issue with Garcia retiring him, maybe because you want the image you have of him of "cherrypicker" to stay and actually encourage guys to duck him so he doesnt prove you wrong.

And by the way you really think garcia would knock cotto out when he couldn't even hurt broner? Cotto went 12 rounds with a huge canelo yet garcia would knock him out? Like i said your entitled to your opinions but i think if garcia won it would most likely be by a decision

[JmH Reborn]

So in your opinion boxing cannot exist with boxers being free agents?They must tie themselves down to one promoter or another in order for the sport to flourish?

How boxing currently exists, no.

Boxing needs to reform itself for the utopia that we all want to happen

There needs to be a boxing union that looks out for fighters

There needs to be an actual league

There needs to be done all these boxing sanctioning orgs

Federal oversight over combat sports since each state has varying rules and standards that I think confuses the game

These are baselines I think that needs to happen for boxing to reinvent itself

If we are being honest - UFC should have bought/merged with PBC and start having combined shows. This could have started pulling all these fighters into a fold.

I'd like to see boxing split off into a "JV" league and "Varsity" league where the top fighters are on PBC/UFC cards and the the pro fighters on the come up are on Strikeforce/PBC Light cards - one of my reasons is so that we don't get Danny Garcia / Salka type of fights that are all too frequent

[Scipio2009]

Simple he's guaranteed Cotto and Linares. Cotto would probably be a pay per view and would end being paid by far his biggest purse. Then Linares would obviously be another 7 figure pay day. He's active and gets high quality promotion.

Linares is already mandatory, and Mikey Garcia already has 7 figure paydays lined up against Easter Jr, Flanagan (counting the US/UK money), and for his showcase fights at 140lbs.

Good money, meaningful fights, and still with the freedom to fight as he pleases. He keeps on winning and performing well (and making the press rounds) and he still ends up getting to PPV on his own terms anyway.

[jjsmyth87]

How boxing currently exists, no.

Boxing needs to reform itself for the utopia that we all want to happen

There needs to be a boxing union that looks out for fighters

There needs to be an actual league

There needs to be done all these boxing sanctioning orgs

Federal oversight over combat sports since each state has varying rules and standards that I think confuses the game

These are baselines I think that needs to happen for boxing to reinvent itself

If we are being honest - UFC should have bought/merged with PBC and start having combined shows. This could have started pulling all these fighters into a fold.

I'd like to see boxing split off into a "JV" league and "Varsity" league where the top fighters are on PBC/UFC cards and the the pro fighters on the come up are on Strikeforce/PBC Light cards - one of my reasons is so that we don't get Danny Garcia / Salka type of fights that are all too frequent

One of the maain reasons boxing is making a slow comeback is because of all these boxers like danny garcia and mikey garcia wanting to be free agents, not in spite of that. Danny Garcia knows that he has no contractual obligation to any promoter so as long as someone like showtime is dumb enough to put on porter granados or garcia rios them we will continue having these mismatches. When Mikey garcia said he wouldn't fight gamboa for a million dollars arum just shelved him and also kept walters on the shelf for not agreeing to fight lomachenko when he originally tried to make that fight. Promoters are the ones who try to make the good fights because its good business and the majority of these al haymon free agents would rather cherrypick because they know they wont get shelved as long as showtime is dumb enough to keep paying. This is why hbo cut ties with haymon many years ago

[factsarenice]

Mar-key pay days don't grow on trees

First, let’s get something straight, Mikey Garcia is talented but he never liked fighting and he has no aspirations of being in the HOF. Mickey came back for one thing and one only, mar-key pay days and that’s it.

Mikey’s problem is that one, he wasted 2 prime years and he’s now 29 with 3 maybe 4 years left. There simply isn’t enough time to fight his way through enough branded guys to demand mar-key money. Garcia doesn’t have a contract with either Showtime. ESPN or HBO and can't bring PPV numbers. Mikey’s best chance is to wait out a big name, beat him, and become the cash cow others want to fight. Fighting a name like, Pac, Floyd, Cotto, Canelo or someone with an established brand is Mickey’s quickest way to the top.

In the end, Mikey just blew a golden opportunity and there is no guaranty he gets another. If what Mikey is after is a mar-key fighter for mar-key money he’ll need to cut a deal with a mar-key promoter. That’s the world we live in, it’s not the player, it’s the game.

[factsarenice]

Linares is already mandatory, and Mikey Garcia already has 7 figure paydays lined up against Easter Jr, Flanagan (counting the US/UK money), and for his showcase fights at 140lbs.

Good money, meaningful fights, and still with the freedom to fight as he pleases. He keeps on winning and performing well (and making the press rounds) and he still ends up getting to PPV on his own terms anyway.

Number one, Easter is not a 7 figure fight. Stop saying that because it's simply untrue.

Second, neither Easter or Flanagan are house hold names and beating them won't raise Mikey's marketability one penny.

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