Who has the better legacy? Joe Calzaghe or Andre Ward?

[john l]

its funny when bute needs the ref to win his fights but when ward does it....hes a great

Niether needed ref watch Bute Andrade when he went down there was no more then 8-11 secs left(cant remember which).Yes the ref TRIED to help him but all it did was get him a buch of s hite.All bute had too do was GET UP AND HE WON.Watch fight or just last half of last round and you will see.lmao I just said you would see but you cant see anything thru your hate.

[daggum]

By the way froch did not want rematch.

Is everything you say wrong i mean its hard to have such a bad ratio unless you are doing it on purpose.

I'm not willing to come to Nottingham, I don't think I should have to"

'If this fight does happen, Froch is not dictating anything. He must have fell and bumped his head.'

pretending that he calls the shots when froch is such a bigger star. pathetic. cheating just does not travel. ward did not want the rematch. you are wrong again.

[daggum]

dude ur the one living in fantasyland. Say hello to tattoo for me I'm going to bed.Ur honestly like talkin to a stone at least when it comes to Ward

are you pretending bute didnt offer ward a fight? you see how im posting things people said, articles, rankings etc...and you are posting nothing but your own jibberish? you cant just make up things like i said. im talking about reality. you are making up your own.

[john l]

Is everything you say wrong i mean its hard to have such a bad ratio unless you are doing it on purpose.

I'm not willing to come to Nottingham, I don't think I should have to"

'If this fight does happen, Froch is not dictating anything. He must have fell and bumped his head.'

pretending that he calls the shots when froch is such a bigger star. pathetic. cheating just does not travel. ward did not want the rematch. you are wrong again.

why does he have to go to England?????You do know froch lost 1st fight right,Or in your mind I sup that was bad dec.lol

[daggum]

Niether needed ref watch Bute Andrade when he went down there was no more then 8-11 secs left(cant remember which).Yes the ref TRIED to help him but all it did was get him a buch of s hite.All bute had too do was GET UP AND HE WON.Watch fight or just last half of last round and you will see.lmao I just said you would see but you cant see anything thru your hate.

oh ok so the refs were all great sure thing!

all bute had to do was beat the count cept there was no count since the ref was paying attention to andrade and not bute. and pretty sure ward needed that ref to let him ko kovalev with low blows. any other competent ref would have penalized him. and lets not even bring up the kessler farce

[daggum]

why does he have to go to England?????You do know froch lost 1st fight right,Or in your mind I sup that was bad dec.lol

money??? i thought that was the point of boxing? there was more money there and he didnt want it. why did ward have to stay in the usa for all his fights int he super six while froch traveled to 4 differnet countries??? he was protected his entire career like ive already explaiend to you. he shouldnt have been but he has that american backgroudn that gave him all the advantages and let him cheat and thats why hes a fraud. if he was boxing under neutral conditions hes nothing

[john l]

are you pretending bute didnt offer ward a fight? you see how im posting things people said, articles, rankings etc...and you are posting nothing but your own jibberish? you cant just make up things like i said. im talking about reality. you are making up your own.

Dude u are only one living in other world. I have given you all kinds of proff,YOU JUST CANT SEE IT. NOW IM DONE TALKIN TO A ***IN WALL.I have no idea what your like in everyday life or even other boxing topics BECAUSE ALL YOU TALK ABOUT WARD and how bad this undefeated fighter who has beat more top 10 guys then almost anyone of this era.(except may,pac maybe b hop.)now please don't talk anymore or quote me in this thread.When it comes to Ward at least you dence as hell

[john l]

oh ok so the refs were all great sure thing!

all bute had to do was beat the count cept there was no count since the ref was paying attention to andrade and not bute. and pretty sure ward needed that ref to let him ko kovalev with low blows. any other competent ref would have penalized him. and lets not even bring up the kessler farce

Again to your dence azz look at the ***in clock!!! When he went down there was less then 10 sec left.GET IT!!!!!!!!! U KNOW THEY KEEP CLOCK GOING WHEN YOU GO DOWN RIGHT?

[john l]

money??? i thought that was the point of boxing? there was more money there and he didnt want it. why did ward have to stay in the usa for all his fights int he super six while froch traveled to 4 differnet countries??? he was protected his entire career like ive already explaiend to you. he shouldnt have been but he has that american backgroudn that gave him all the advantages and let him cheat and thats why hes a fraud. if he was boxing under neutral conditions hes nothing

JEEEEEEEEEEEEEEZ what the hell did Ward do yo u.did he ****** you as a kid or something?? every time I'm done you have 3 more quotes all sayin ****** s hite

[daggum]

Dude u are only one living in other world. I have given you all kinds of proff,YOU JUST CANT SEE IT. NOW IM DONE TALKIN TO A ***IN WALL.I have no idea what your like in everyday life or even other boxing topics BECAUSE ALL YOU TALK ABOUT WARD and how bad this undefeated fighter who has beat more top 10 guys then almost anyone of this era.(except may,pac maybe b hop.)now please don't talk anymore or quote me in this thread.When it comes to Ward at least you dence as hell

where is your proof??? your words arent proof sorry to say. you do realize simply saying something doesnt make it true right? you are saying things that are blatantly wrong over and over. i am posting things disproving you and you are ignoring it. he didnt have the chance to fight bute when he turned down the fight? do i have to get those links out for you? i thought it was common knowledge but i have to treat you like you were just born i suppose. i apologize for assuming you knew a little.