Comments Thread For: WBC Prez is Firm on Exploring New Weight Class at Heavyweight

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Jack Dempsey didn't cry when he had to fight the giant Jess Willard...he just went out there and whipped his ass. Same with Joe Louis and the 260 lb Primo Carnera.

Hell, even Chris Byrd vs Vitali Klitschko to a lesser extent.

I usually like the WBC slightly more than the other alphabet groups but if they do this then I am done with them. It's a change that isn't necessary.

[Lester Tutor]

I think Süleyman is in search for that weight class for himself

[ICEMAN JOHN SCULLY]

THE POWERS THAT BE HAVE TO FIGHT AGAINST THIS. If they want to raise the cruiserweight limit, thats fine. But the highest class is HEAVYWEIGHT...history is at stake here...we can make a division going forward that Joe Louis, Muhammad Ali and Larry Holmes werent big enough to compete in. Just call it HEAVYWEIGHT.

Raise the Cruiserweight limit, add a SUPER CRUISERWEIGHT division that goes up to maybe 220...and keep HEAVYWEIGHT as the name of the once most prestigious title in all of sports...

[Majic]

He should be ashamed of himself

[Hot Shyt]

I hope they make this happen

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How can WBC Just create a new division?

The same way they created pretty much every division . . .

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How would I be doing that exactly? The best boxer seems to rarely be a HW if we are speaking of P4P sci fi fantasy bs.

But we're not speaking about your nonsense sci fi fantasy. We're speaking about reality. If heavyweight has a weight limit, it becomes impossible to determine who the baddest man on the planet is. The boxer that would beat all other boxers.

The NBA doesn't have a height limit and boxing shouldn't have a weight limit. You eventually reach a point where bigger isn't better anymore. Over the last 20 years, the average weight of the WBC world heavyweight champion has DECREASED, not increased.

And if you are saying the HW's are the best boxers cuz they are the biggest than that'd still be the case they'd just need to weigh between 215-265 instead of 200+.

And if they aren't allowed to weigh in at whatever they want, then we never actually get to find out who the best fighter on the planet is. We're only finding out who the best fighter is that happens to weigh less than an arbitrary number picked out of thin air.

Why even have the sport at all if you're going to make it illegal to find out who the best is?

The WBC champion weighed 222 pounds for his most recent fight. The WBA/IBF champion weighed 250 pounds for his most recent fight. These weights are no different than the best heavyweights from the last few decades.

But if you add a weight limit of 265 pounds, we no longer know for sure that they're the greatest fighters in the world. Whereas presently, by having no weight limit, we know that they are. What you're proposing would ruin the entire concept of being heavyweight champion of the world and it's no coincidence that being UFC heavyweight champion has never and will never impress the public the way being boxing heavyweight champion does because UFC doesn't actually have a heavyweight division. They have a junior heavyweight division and they're perpetrating a fraud on the public by lying about the name.

Generally anyone over 265 is a freak show so aren't serious anyway.

So then what's the problem? Why rob Wilder and Joshua of the opportunity to be the true champions of the sport of boxing? Right now they are the kings of 7 billion people. We know that because if an 8 foot 500 pound giant existed, Wilder & Joshua still reign supreme over them.

You add that weight limit and they are no longer heavyweight champions. They are pretenders masquerading as heavyweight champions.

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I usually like the WBC slightly more than the other alphabet groups but if they do this then I am done with them. It's a change that isn't necessary.

Agree 100%. It would be an unforgivable sin. They've been entrusted with the history of the IBU & NYSAC heavyweight titles and it would be an insult to the entire history of the sport to add a weight limit to the heavyweight division.

[Eff Pandas]

But we're not speaking about your nonsense sci fi fantasy. We're speaking about reality. If heavyweight has a weight limit, it becomes impossible to determine who the baddest man on the planet is. The boxer that would beat all other boxers.

Hate to break it to you but "baddest man on the planet" is as sci fi fantasy bs-ish as P4P. These are all just guys in specific weight divisions. There is no legit P4P title. There is no legit baddest man on the planet title.

The NBA doesn't have a height limit and boxing shouldn't have a weight limit.

Horrible analogy unless you're saying there shouldn't be any weight divisions in boxing. If so fair play thats a debatable argument to have. I wouldn't be opposed to that.

Why even have the sport at all if you're going to make it illegal to find out who the best is?

Make it illegal lol. Its not quite that serious. There are rules & requirements in boxing already. If you legit wanna find out who this sci fi fantasy bs "baddest man on the planet" is then they should fight without rules at all & that sh^t should just be some savage ancient times type gladiator sh^t.

So then what's the problem? Why rob Wilder and Joshua of the opportunity to be the true champions of the sport of boxing? Right now they are the kings of 7 billion people. We know that because if an 8 foot 500 pound giant existed, Wilder & Joshua still reign supreme over them.

I ultimately don't give a f#ck about Joshua & Wilder specifically in the greater discussion of if there should be a weight limit on the heavyweight division. And I ultimately think its in the safety & fairness of all boxers to require all opponents to be within a certain weight limit of each other. The heavyweight division is currently the only anything goes division weight wise like that & I see that as a long term health issue & just a fairness thing for Joshua & Wilder & any boxer who's competing now & in the past.

You add that weight limit and they are no longer heavyweight champions. They are pretenders masquerading as heavyweight champions.

LOL always some of you guys who hate change in boxing. Boxing has changed numerous times historically. I'm sure guys from the bare knuckle days would call the current version of boxers a bunch of f@ggots for fighting with gloves. I got no concern for that child-ish name calling type sh^t of fighters. Things move forward towards whatever the masses want things to move forward towards, like it or not.

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There is no legit baddest man on the planet title.

Yes there is. It's called the heavyweight championship of the world. 7 billion people on the planet and one of them is the best boxer. Not the best boxer who drained the water from his body to weigh less than an arbitrary number for ten seconds. The best boxer, period.

Horrible analogy unless you're saying there shouldn't be any weight divisions in boxing. If so fair play thats a debatable argument to have. I wouldn't be opposed to that.

You can still have divisions. Just as basketball has college, high school, the WNBA, wheelchair leagues, etc. But the heavyweight champion is the champion of boxing. You can still have the champion of tiny boxers just as we have the champion of lady basketball players. But nobody is advocating making it illegal to find out who is the best in basketball the way you're advocating making it illegal to find out who is the best in boxing.