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  • Originally posted by travestyny View Post
    Dude, you are slow.

    1. Just because you are capable of drinking water doesn't mean that it is the most appropriate action.

    2. The paramedic administered the IV. The physician is who fills out the TUE application.

    3. You still need to explain why USADA would make a paper trail for this instead of just telling "Fluid" when they were coming so that no TUE would be necessary.
    You really are making a fool of yourself nuffy--------------------c. There is no reasonable The****utic alternative to the Use of the otherwise Prohibited Substance or Prohibited Method.---- it didn't look like he had any problem tolerating oral fluids after the weigh in, why would a paramedic have an IV bag with a ****tail of vitamins in it, seems like it was well planned before it actually happened

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    • Originally posted by Shape up View Post
      You really are making a fool of yourself nuffy--------------------c. There is no reasonable The****utic alternative to the Use of the otherwise Prohibited Substance or Prohibited Method.---- it didn't look like he had any problem tolerating oral fluids after the weigh in, why would a paramedic have an IV bag with a ****tail of vitamins in it, seems like it was well planned before it actually happened
      So what you're saying is that if you have diarrhea, you are physically incapable of drinking?

      If you have hyponatremia, you are physically incapable of drinking?

      If you have adrenal fatigue, you are physically incapable of drinking?

      As far as I know, you are only physically incapable of drinking if your mouth is wired shut, or you are unconscious.

      The **** is your problem with "a ****tail of vitamins." Are vitamins illegal now? Obviously either the physician or paramedic thought the vitamins would help out with whatever his condition was.

      You dope.
      Last edited by travestyny; 11-19-2017, 12:22 AM.

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      • Originally posted by travestyny View Post
        So what you're saying is that if you have diarrhea, you are physically incapable of drinking?

        If you have hyponatremia, you are physically incapable of drinking?

        If you have adrenal fatigue, you are physically incapable of drinking?

        As far as I know, you are only physically incapable of drinking if your mouth is wired shut, or you are unconscious.

        The **** is your problem with "a ****tail of vitamins." Are vitamins illegal now? Obviously either the physician or paramedic thought the vitamins would help out with whatever his condition was.

        You dope.
        That was part of the criteria, the problem is he decided he wanted an IV instead of drinking water and usada were compliant, since when has a paramedic packed an IV bag with vitamins in it, that's not something a paramedic would do

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        • Originally posted by Shape up View Post
          That was part of the criteria, the problem is he decided he wanted an IV instead of drinking water and usada were compliant, since when has a paramedic packed an IV bag with vitamins in it, that's not something a paramedic would do
          LMAO. Dude. It's not like the paramedic had to squeeze some lemons. lol.


          You keep avoiding. Why wouldn't USADA simply tell him when they were coming so there was no need for an IV or TUE. Or just not document the IV. As Kool keeps telling you, no one cared about this shlt until Hauser. Hauser never knows about it unless USADA makes it public. If USADA doesn't make it public.......

          No IV...No TUE...No Hauser...

          Crickets.

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          • Originally posted by travestyny View Post
            LMAO. Dude. It's not like the paramedic had to squeeze some lemons. lol.


            You keep avoiding. Why wouldn't USADA simply tell him when they were coming so there was no need for an IV or TUE. Or just not document the IV. As Kool keeps telling you, no one cared about this shlt until Hauser. Hauser never knows about it unless USADA makes it public. If USADA doesn't make it public.......

            No IV...No TUE...No Hauser...

            Crickets.
            So if someone in fluids camp turned, he has a convenient easily obtained retro tue as a present from usada

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            • Originally posted by travestyny View Post
              LMAO. Dude. It's not like the paramedic had to squeeze some lemons. lol.


              You keep avoiding. Why wouldn't USADA simply tell him when they were coming so there was no need for an IV or TUE. Or just not document the IV. As Kool keeps telling you, no one cared about this shlt until Hauser. Hauser never knows about it unless USADA makes it public. If USADA doesn't make it public.......

              No IV...No TUE...No Hauser...

              Crickets.
              Again, why would you need a paramedic for an IV if you had a doctor there, the doctor wasn't there that's why

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              • Originally posted by Shape up View Post
                So if someone in fluids camp turned, he has a convenient easily obtained retro tue as a present from usada
                Do you really think USADA trusts the future of its organization in the hands of “someone in ‘Fluid’s’ camp.”

                Be serious.

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                • Originally posted by Shape up View Post
                  Again, why would you need a paramedic for an IV if you had a doctor there, the doctor wasn't there that's why
                  Maybe the doctor doesn’t have banana bags lying around.

                  If you don’t know what a banana bag is, look it up.

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                  • Originally posted by Shape up View Post
                    Fluid said it was dehydration, nothing more, drinking water is the therapudic alternative so he fails, why would a paramedic be called for an IV if a doctor was there, so many holes in the fantasy, if usada was willing to break WADA rules for fluid then what else were they willing to do
                    Maybe the paramedic was called to create the appropriate medical setting.

                    Dumb ass.

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                    • Originally posted by ADP02 View Post
                      See, you DEFLECTED back to that. So if I had that line from the start it appears that you would be going right to the Whiz example and completed IGNORING everything else stated by Tygart!!!


                      The video is exactly a great example of YOU!!!

                      Even when ALL of the FACTS are shown to your face (including the last statement) YOU IGNORE everything and go to the one example where we would both agree that Floyd wouldn't do that (with a competent DCO)
                      BUT
                      Floyd had ample time (6+ hours) to do everything else!!!



                      On that very same statement, if the athlete uses a catheter, what you got?

                      If Floyd uses a masking agent and as you know, has ample time to do so, what you got?

                      If Floyd is allowed to DELAY and then use an IV to dilute his sample, so what you got?


                      Before you DEFLECT



                      Floyd was allowed to delay the process for 6+ hours!


                      .
                      "(with a competent DCO)"

                      This proves how ignorant you are when it comes to ABP testing and how the WADA labs are monitoring BLOOD AND URINE profiles.


                      It wouldn't matter if a competent DCO checked the athletes for a whizzinator by giving them a blow job.

                      5 years of monitoring blood and urine profiles with longitudinal software and you think it's possible to use a whizzinator - "as long as the DCO is competent". Or even a catheter for that matter.

                      Smh.


                      "Bbbut Bbbut TYSON USED A WHIZZINATOR TO BEAT TEST IN 1989!!!"


                      Idiot.

                      Get it through your thick skull. The testing and procedures Tygart was referencing within his statement in 2011 does not compare to the testing and procedures Floyd was subjected to on May 1st 2015.





                      But I know. I get it. You need to keep trying to push your "delayed the test" narrative despite all of factual information you have been given.

                      In the process you have :

                      - ignored that a partial sample was taken prior to the IV
                      - ignored DCO requirements to get a suitable SPG and volume
                      - ignored a "failure to comply" violation if the athlete intentionally over hydrates or won't provide suitable volume
                      - ignored ALL samples are still tested by WADA labs regardless
                      - ignored potential doping violations for ABP profile irregularities
                      - ignored Floyd and MANNY are being target tested by default
                      - ignored the fact Floyd had media/weigh in obligations



                      Your final explanation:

                      - Floyd urinated so much the DCO ran out of cups
                      - If the sample is exactly 90ml no SPG is taken

                      .......wait did you really say those last 2 things????


                      - Floyd urinated so much the DCO ran out of cups
                      - If the sample is exactly 90ml no SPG is taken



                      Wtf?


                      **** this. I can't argue with a fool. I'm done.

                      Idiot

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