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  • Originally posted by travestyny View Post
    LMAOOO. YOU TWO HAVE SHED LIGHT ON THIS MYSTERY. YOU WERE SUPPOSEDLY WORKING TOGETHER, BUT I GUESS YOU CAN'T EVEN DO THAT RIGHT.


    SO WHAT WE LEARNED FROM THE PACROACHES IS THAT MAYWEATHER'S NATURAL, WALKING AROUND WEIGHT IS AROUND 160...SO HE HAS TO MELT DOWN TO 147 TO BE AT FIGHT NIGHT WEIGHT, AND HE CAN ONLY REHYDRATE TO 150 AT MOST ON FIGHT NIGHT.


    THANKS PACROACHES!!! MYSTERY SOLVED THANKS TO YOU TWO. YOU MAKE A FORMIDABLE TEAM. KEEP UP THE GREAT WORK!


    [img]https://media.*****.com/media/l3E6uhDAN3W7vylji/*****.gif[/img]

    Hmmm, ..... What are you talking about and what is your point DEFLECTO?



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    • Originally posted by ADP02 View Post
      Hmmm, ..... What are you talking about and what is your point DEFLECTO?



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      I think you need to retire that Deflecto bullshlt until you stop deflecting from all of your **** ups.

      Stop deflecting!


      Originally posted by ADP02 View Post
      j) Finally, it's not mandatory that the DCO take or should I say, have a SG reading. If Floyd is having trouble even producing a urine sample, then there would be no urine left over to test for SG ... DCO would put a note that its OK due to Floyd's BS dehydration and expect a TUE note from the FLoyd's doctor to explain all this.
      Originally posted by ADP02 View Post
      - As stated in previous posts, its possible that there is no specific gravity taken since Floyd had trouble producing enough urine to begin with!!! That is, there is not enough urine to fill up the sample A and B but adequate (60-90ml) but with no residual urine. Then calls it a day.
      Originally posted by ADP02 View Post
      4) The case above about "coach Alberto Salazar and his athletes".

      YOU WERE WRONG AGAIN!!!

      They tried to manipulate every which way they can including getting BS TUEs!!!!! LOL ...

      WILL YOU ADMIT THAT YOU ARE WRONG? YES OR NO?

      Keep in mind:


      9 The DCO is required to measure the sample’s specific gravity. If it does not meet certain requirements, you will be asked to provide another sample.
      https://www.wada-ama.org/sites/defau...-2015-code.pdf
      [img]https://media.*****.com/media/l3E6uhDAN3W7vylji/*****.gif[/img]

      IF YOU CAN'T ADMIT THAT YOU ARE WRONG ABOUT THIS, YOU'RE NOT DISCUSSING THIS IN GOOD FAITH! DON'T YOU THINK?????? SO WHAT'S IT GOING TO BE?

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      • Originally posted by ADP02 View Post
        WOW!!!! You come back with no sources and links and it's all cool??? WTF!


        SORRY, but I have been asking you for sources to you stating that it's the paramedic's call not Floyd's.

        If the paramedic gives Floyd a substance or method that is against WADA rules and there is a legal alternative .... it will end up being Floyd's responsibility and FAULT not the BS paramedic which more than likely is a BS hangover IV clinic that makes money giving IVs!!!!


        I have asked you enough times.
        Where is your source for your BS excuse? Your BS excuse CONTRADICTs what I stated above and what I stated above is similar to what WADA states!!!



        Where is the LINK TO YOUR SOURCE!!!






        Here are more sources from MY END. It's time that you put out or SHUT UP!!!








        Here is a math question for you.
        Floyd weighed 146 and wants to reach up to 147 or 148 or 149 with fluids. How many cup of fluids are required?
        Between 3 to 9 cups of fluid is required.

        Now go check out the size of bottles that Floyd was drinking from! WHOAAAA!!!!




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        Originally posted by koolkc107 View Post
        See now you are pulling shyt out your azz and while Travestyny and DoSumpthin may take pleasure in taking the time to trounce you fools, I most certainly do not.

        Furthermore, I am not in the business of answering straw man arguments.

        Floyd got an IV consisting of substances that were not in and of themselves illegal. There is no reason to think anything was being masked because in addition to passing tests given in the months of camp, the sample taken right before the IV matched everything else. The IV itself was given by a licensed medical professional and later reviewed and approved by a board of physicians who issued a retroactive TUE as per WADA regulations.

        That is ground zero.

        That is fact.

        Those are the pertinent facts you need to deal with.

        If you are going to forward conspiracy theories, speculation is not going to do here.

        You need a paper trail or some kind of smoking gun that isn't conjured by half-drunken bitterness.

        And you cannot alter that with addle-brained speculation that is not even possible much less probable and lacks any connection to any relevant facts.

        In other words...GTFOOH with that bullshyt.

        A medical professional determined Floyd needed the IV.

        A DCO observed the paramedic make that assessment and was fine with it, doing his due diligence collecting samples as his job required.

        A WADA-accredited review board granted the TUE.

        And all of this was reported in May when the fight took place.

        Show me your posts from May 2015 complaining about a TUE that should not have been given.

        Or admit you lack any ability to think for yourself, are simply parroting what you heard because it helps you deal with your hero's azzkicking a little better, and then- most importantly- STFU!!!!!!
        Are you related to the one they call DEFLECTOR? As hard as it is to do, you are taking over that spot!!!

        You keep on bringing up BS and try to pass it as a fact but it is NOT. You know that you cannot provide sources for your BS so you end up providing your long winded BS DEFLECTIONs!!!

        If the paramedic provides an IV and the TUE is not approved it ends up being Floyd's fault NOT the paramedic!!!! You cannot escape from your nonsense!!!


        You didn't respond to anything directly. All you did is bring up the sequence of events and nothing that related to what was brought up in my post.

        All you said is, nothing was found so it's all good BUT as with other cases, that means SH$T!!!

        Athletes have passed but later when better tests came out and they were retested THEY FAILED. SO like I said, your response is a DEFLECTION and the SH$Ts!!!

        So what that Floyd past his other tests.
        A guy from the UFC passed all his tests except the one after his weigh-in.
        "Jon Jones is once again in very hot water for failing a drug test after the weigh-ins "

        There were threads made after we found out that Floyd received 2 IVs with substances but this must be another DEFLECTION as it makes no difference!


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        • Originally posted by ADP02 View Post
          Hmmm, ..... What are you talking about and what is your point DEFLECTO?



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          Originally posted by travestyny View Post
          I think you need to retire that Deflecto bullshlt until you stop deflecting from all of your **** ups.

          Stop deflecting!









          WILL YOU ADMIT THAT YOU ARE WRONG? YES OR NO?

          Keep in mind:





          [img]https://media.*****.com/media/l3E6uhDAN3W7vylji/*****.gif[/img]

          IF YOU CAN'T ADMIT THAT YOU ARE WRONG ABOUT THIS, YOU'RE NOT DISCUSSING THIS IN GOOD FAITH! DON'T YOU THINK?????? SO WHAT'S IT GOING TO BE?

          I must say that your friend Koolie is taking over the DEFLECTO prize but you are a close 2nd.

          Couldn't you respond to my 1 statement? I do not even know what you are trying to claim?


          As for your other stuff, I will respond once I get to the posts. If I miss them or we moved on, that is another story but I do not deflect ... that is YOUR JOB!!!



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          • Originally posted by ADP02 View Post
            I must say that your friend Koolie is taking over the DEFLECTO prize but you are a close 2nd.

            Couldn't you respond to my 1 statement? I do not even know what you are trying to claim?


            As for your other stuff, I will respond once I get to the posts. If I miss them or we moved on, that is another story but I do not deflect ... that is YOUR JOB!!!



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            Dude, what are you talking about. I posted 3 statements that you are clearly wrong about. You are being a coward. Just admit that you are wrong.

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            • Originally posted by ADP02 View Post
              You keep on bringing up BS and try to pass it as a fact but it is NOT. You know that you cannot provide sources for your BS so you end up providing your long winded BS DEFLECTIONs!!!
              Isn't this exactly what you are doing? Come on, dude, keep it real.


              You said the DCO can possibly not take the SPG reading on a sample. You then tried to double down on that in a recent post.

              Are you right or wrong? Again, you are losing all creditability if you can't admit you are wrong. If you want to find out the truth, you need to look at this unbiasedly. Not admitting you're wrong about something that you are clearly wrong about shows that this discussion is simply worthless.

              Then again, what did I expect from someone who can't admit the way he lost in our thunderdome debate. Dude, discussing this with you anymore is worthless because you have shown you are willing to lie, deflect, duck, and do whatever to "murky up the waters." YOU BEGGED ME TO ANSWER ABOUT GALEN RUPP AND ALBERTO SALAZAR, AND AS SOON AS I DID, YOU HAVEN'T MENTIONED IT SINCE.

              You don't want to know the truth. You just want to lie and stay in your safe bubble where in your world, Mayweather didn't legitimately beat Pacquiao.

              This is real talk. I'm through beating you down over the way you handled your loss in our debate. I really don't give a **** anymore. But if you want to continue this discussion, you have to show that you're willing to discuss in good faith. If not....there is no need to continue.

              You write **** about what you believe I'm wrong about all the time. I responded every time. Again, you sent about 3 posts daring me to respond about Rupp and Salazar. I'm asking you, will you admit that you are wrong about that and about saying the SPG could be not taken by the DCO, and also about saying the DCO can stop the session due to dehydration or hyper-hydration.

              What's it going to be?

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              • Originally posted by travestyny View Post
                I suppose I am since I've been kicking your ass all over this place. You seem upset about that.



                In your Mayweather Mafia dreams but it's the opposite in reality! In reality, you DEFLECT!

                DEFLECTION: This includes you responding but going off on a tangent instead of answering directly to my statements


                How did you deflect from Galen Rupp? I Remember you sending 3 posts in a row about that, when I proved you wrong, you refused to mention it again. DEFLECTOR

                Dude, it was YOU who asked ME to respond about Galen Rupp because you said I was wrong. When I responded and proved I was RIGHT and in fact YOU were WRONG, you stopped mentioning it. This is confirmed. You have no honor.
                You mean, how did you deflect again to this topic and not respond to my post?

                Salazar and his athletes: I clearly responded to you. I said that I still did not read your points but this too is a deflection since it was not in my previous post!



                DCO ......
                ...... bla, bla, bla You said that there was no way, impossible but as you can see and will see that there are scenarios where it doesn't need to be that DCO got it wrong even though it's possible that the DCO got it wrong!



                You wanted scenarios and I provided to you many scenarios that are legitimately possible according to WADA's own rules. Yes or no? You will respond incorrectly by saying no but the TRUTH is YES, the DCO can determine to stop testing for various reasons!

                Floyd already used some containers due to partial sample.
                Floyd would have to use more containers due to other partial samples.

                DCO's bring a limited amount of containers.

                Can some of the container's packaging or the containers themselves be ripped or chipped or something else occur to them? YES!!!

                Several cases that I read, that is exactly what happened.

                Can a container or 2 fall? YES, this is another possibility.

                AGAIN, this occurred in cases that I read. At times, it's due to the athlete WHO WANTS TO DELAY OR STOP THE TESTING!!!!!

                Can there be accidentally or not some foreign object in the sample? Yes

                Can there be other reasons? YES, of course!!!


                Plus there are other reasons such as something got contaminated, Floyd's physical medical issues may be called BS "exceptional circumstance". After Floyd received the BS RETRO TUE, nothing can be ruled out!!!







                Take this below scenario as an example. Will the SG be measured like you presumed, for all samples? NO .... KABOOOM!!!!

                In this case, will the DCO send it off without taking a SG? Does it make sense now? Yes! To Travestyny?

                WADA
                "Whenever it is necessary to seal a partial sample in the A bottle only, it may not be possible to measure the specific gravity of the sample. In this case, a Supplementary Report Form should be completed."

                I already explained this to you but it appears that you didn't get it.
                The athlete is also instructed to pour the urine samples into SAMPLE A & B containers. What if the athlete fills it to the required amount and there is no urine left over???

                That is, meets requirement of TOTAL 90ml. Meets requirement of 30ml Sample B and 60ml Sample A.

                Sample A + B = 60 + 30 = 90ml. Consequently, not 1ml and certainly there is no 2ml residual left over??? ... AGAIN, KABOOOOM!!!!!

                WADA
                "The Athlete’s sample meets minimum volume requirements of 90 mL of urine"
                "The minimum amount of 30 mL of urine is poured into the B bottle"
                "The minimum amount of 60 mL of urine is poured into the A bottle"


                I do not think that you responded to this question. let me know. Was Floyd's medical condition one in which you would say was an exceptional circumstance?

                Which leads to this:
                "The DCO should continue to collect additional samples until a suitable sample is provided or until the DCO determines that there are exceptional circumstances (i.e. logistical reasons) which make it impossible to continue with the sample collection session."
                At this point in time, Travestyny will tell us that he now knows about this quote but unfortunately, he doesn't like this point or any other point so he goes around in circles with this topic. Like a dog chasing his tail!!!




                FINALLY: Something tells me that the DCO was at times not in view of Floyd.
                The Athlete will remain under continuous observation of the DCO or Chaperone while waiting to provide an additional sample.


                So as you can see, I keep on responding to your points but then when you respond to my previous post you did this: DEFLECTED!!!!!

                Your "STOP" means "travestyny is going to DEFLECT"

                Instead of responding, you deflected to a dumb point:
                travestyny
                "I've asked you over and over if he had become dehydrated at some point during training, as he was for the Mosley fight, and never rehydrated properly, how would that affect him. "
                Well, now the above is actually answered by Floyd with his pre-fight form. Floyd's weight was rock hard stable for 30 days!!!! Floyd says he makes weight EASILY and has so for a decade because he walks around that weight .... DEFLECTOR!!!



                PLUS: Alex Ariza monitors Floyd and as he admits, he does it by the numbers from day 1 he has a plan.

                Oh, but I already said this in that post DEFLECTOR!!!



                Now go respond to my post DEFLECTOR!!!






                McCall and Salazar(didn't read yet), I will be responding to in the other posts.

                In summary, I responded to your points AGAIN and you avoided pretty much everything that I posted!!!


                DEFLECTOR!!!!

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                • Originally posted by adp02 View Post
                  wada
                  "whenever it is necessary to seal a partial sample in the a bottle only, it may not be possible to measure the specific gravity of the sample. In this case, a supplementary report form should be completed."
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                  what the **** is wrong with you. Now you are talking about sealing a partial sample into the a container?????

                  Is that what this is about? Only a partial sample? Give me the link. i want to see this so i can laugh at you.


                  log the **** off you are ****ing desperate!
                  Last edited by travestyny; 11-11-2017, 10:28 PM.

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                  • Originally posted by ADP02 View Post
                    Salazar and his athletes: I clearly responded to you. I said that I still did not read your points but this too is a deflection since it was not in my previous post!
                    PROOF THAT THIS CLOWN ASS BlTCH IS A DEFLECTING PIECE OF SHlT.



                    THIS DUMB **** BEGGED ME TO RESPOND ABOUT SALAZAR ABOUT THREE TIMES IN A ****ING ROW. SAID I WOULD DEFLECT. ONCE I RESPONDED LIKE HE ASKED, NOW IT'S "I DIDN'T READ IT.....I DIDN'T READ IT."

                    Originally posted by ADP02 View Post
                    Was it a spelling mistake when I posted you saying the below

                    OR

                    Was it that you are going to go home and DEFLECT from the TRUTH?



                    travestyny
                    "Also already told you about that other case. The doctor AVOIDED the TUE process, not made up shlt to get the TUE. You ****ed up, dummy. “

                    Dummy? Really?


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                    Originally posted by ADP02 View Post
                    I agree.

                    Above example, he says "You ****ed up, dummy"

                    but the truth is that I was right. The doctor that I mentioned would get his athlete's BS TUEs but Travestyny went, as usual, one step further than he should have and now in his next post, he knows that he cannot say that he is a dummy and WRONG.

                    So he will certainly be DEFLECTING on this point.
                    Originally posted by ADP02 View Post
                    a) As stated in other posts, if you have a cheating Floyd and his doctor .... it's possible.

                    I know that you do not like the truth but this is the truth and if you look further down, you can see an example of it for IV below!!!
                    Originally posted by ADP02 View Post
                    Here is a case where there are witnesses that know the truth yet you think that USADA TUEC gets it right every time? If done right, they just see what the athlete's doctor wants to show them:

                    Read further down where it proves that YOU WERE WRONG in your response to this a few days ago!!!
                    Originally posted by ADP02 View Post
                    4) The case above about "coach Alberto Salazar and his athletes".

                    YOU WERE WRONG AGAIN!!!

                    They tried to manipulate every which way they can including getting BS TUEs!!!!! LOL ...

                    "In 2015, Salazar was the subject of a ProPublica and BBC report alleging he pushed the boundaries on doping rules to gain a competitive advantage by encouraging the use of prescription medication and the****utic use exemptions."

                    "The Gouchers also mentioned how Salazar would push for a TUE for an intravenous drip for Rupp ahead of races. Manipulating the TUE process to get a TUE would be grounds for a ban by the World Anti-Doping Agency"

                    LOL
                    Originally posted by ADP02 View Post
                    9.


                    That is why I pointed out to you that it can be beat and provided an example above with that coach! Not the first time and not the last time!
                    Originally posted by ADP02 View Post
                    and you goofed TWICE in your response here:


                    Originally posted by “Travestyny”
                    No you fool. I’ve already answered this in other posts. Go read up.
                    Also already told you about that other case. The doctor AVOIDED the TUE process, not made up shlt to get the TUE. You ****ed up, dummy.


                    Who is the dummy?


                    THIS ****ER WROTE ALL OF THIS SHlT BEGGING ME TO ANSWER HIM ABOUT THIS, AND ONCE I DID, NOW HE'S LIKE...."YOU'RE DEFLECTING...WHY ARE YOU BRINGING UP OLD SHlT" LMAOOOOOOOOO. YOU JUST ASKED ME TO ANSWER ABOUT THIS!

                    YOU LYING, DEFLECTING BlTCH. GET THE **** OUT OF HERE. YOU'RE DONE.

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                    • THIS IS THE LAST POST OF YOURS THAT I'M GOING TO RIP APART. RIGHT AFTER YOU STOP DUCKING AND DEFLECTING FROM THE POST ABOUT SALAZAR. I SEE YOUR BULLSHlT RESPONSE ABOUT THE SPECIFIC GRAVITY, WHICH IS ****ING PATHETIC. I'M GOING TO RESPOND TO EVERY SINGLE ****ING POINT, PROVE YOU ARE AN IDIOTIC MORON, AND BE DONE WITH THIS SHlT.

                      FIRST, I WANT THE LINK TO THAT WADA QUOTE ABOUT A PARTIAL SAMPLE IN AN A CONTAINER. ONCE YOU GIVE ME THAT AND RESPOND ABOUT SALAZAR, I WILL RESPOND TO ALL OF THIS COMPLETE UTTER BULLSHlT YOU JUST TYPED. YOU'RE A DISGRACE.



                      Originally posted by ADP02 View Post
                      In your Mayweather Mafia dreams but it's the opposite in reality! In reality, you DEFLECT!

                      DEFLECTION: This includes you responding but going off on a tangent instead of answering directly to my statements




                      You mean, how did you deflect again to this topic and not respond to my post?

                      Salazar and his athletes: I clearly responded to you. I said that I still did not read your points but this too is a deflection since it was not in my previous post!





                      ...... bla, bla, bla You said that there was no way, impossible but as you can see and will see that there are scenarios where it doesn't need to be that DCO got it wrong even though it's possible that the DCO got it wrong!



                      You wanted scenarios and I provided to you many scenarios that are legitimately possible according to WADA's own rules. Yes or no? You will respond incorrectly by saying no but the TRUTH is YES, the DCO can determine to stop testing for various reasons!

                      Floyd already used some containers due to partial sample.
                      Floyd would have to use more containers due to other partial samples.

                      DCO's bring a limited amount of containers.

                      Can some of the container's packaging or the containers themselves be ripped or chipped or something else occur to them? YES!!!

                      Several cases that I read, that is exactly what happened.

                      Can a container or 2 fall? YES, this is another possibility.

                      AGAIN, this occurred in cases that I read. At times, it's due to the athlete WHO WANTS TO DELAY OR STOP THE TESTING!!!!!

                      Can there be accidentally or not some foreign object in the sample? Yes

                      Can there be other reasons? YES, of course!!!


                      Plus there are other reasons such as something got contaminated, Floyd's physical medical issues may be called BS "exceptional circumstance". After Floyd received the BS RETRO TUE, nothing can be ruled out!!!







                      Take this below scenario as an example. Will the SG be measured like you presumed, for all samples? NO .... KABOOOM!!!!

                      In this case, will the DCO send it off without taking a SG? Does it make sense now? Yes! To Travestyny?




                      I already explained this to you but it appears that you didn't get it.
                      The athlete is also instructed to pour the urine samples into SAMPLE A & B containers. What if the athlete fills it to the required amount and there is no urine left over???

                      That is, meets requirement of TOTAL 90ml. Meets requirement of 30ml Sample B and 60ml Sample A.

                      Sample A + B = 60 + 30 = 90ml. Consequently, not 1ml and certainly there is no 2ml residual left over??? ... AGAIN, KABOOOOM!!!!!





                      I do not think that you responded to this question. let me know. Was Floyd's medical condition one in which you would say was an exceptional circumstance?

                      Which leads to this:


                      At this point in time, Travestyny will tell us that he now knows about this quote but unfortunately, he doesn't like this point or any other point so he goes around in circles with this topic. Like a dog chasing his tail!!!




                      FINALLY: Something tells me that the DCO was at times not in view of Floyd.




                      So as you can see, I keep on responding to your points but then when you respond to my previous post you did this: DEFLECTED!!!!!

                      Your "STOP" means "travestyny is going to DEFLECT"

                      Instead of responding, you deflected to a dumb point:


                      Well, now the above is actually answered by Floyd with his pre-fight form. Floyd's weight was rock hard stable for 30 days!!!! Floyd says he makes weight EASILY and has so for a decade because he walks around that weight .... DEFLECTOR!!!



                      PLUS: Alex Ariza monitors Floyd and as he admits, he does it by the numbers from day 1 he has a plan.

                      Oh, but I already said this in that post DEFLECTOR!!!



                      Now go respond to my post DEFLECTOR!!!






                      McCall and Salazar(didn't read yet), I will be responding to in the other posts.

                      In summary, I responded to your points AGAIN and you avoided pretty much everything that I posted!!!


                      DEFLECTOR!!!!

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                      Last edited by travestyny; 11-11-2017, 11:16 PM.

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