Here's Where All The Floyd Cheat Theories Fail

[koolkc107]

Yup. Sounds perfect to me. I wonder why they won't step up! Hmm.

They wont step up because they dont have the courage to.

They are OK to make accusations where only a few hundred might see.

No one wants to chance being seen as a fool in front of the whole world.

[travestyny]

They wont step up because they dont have the courage to.

They are OK to make accusations where only a few hundred might see.

No one wants to chance being seen as a fool in front of the whole world.

You know, the truth of the matter is...beyond WADA code and all of the mumbo jumbo, even these clowns have to know that this makes no sense.

There is no way that anyone would be ****** enough to try to cheat the system by documenting everything and sharing it with everyone who matters. Basically, seems that the only way that this could be possible is if WADA was in on it too.

And if USADA and WADA both were willing to go that far for Floyd Mayweather, whose own father didn't like him for awhile.

Well hey. We both know the real truth. I guess it really hurts when the "fighter of the decade" loses the "fight of the century," and thereby loses the title of fighter of the generation to his arch nemesis.

[koolkc107]

You know, the truth of the matter is...beyond WADA code and all of the mumbo jumbo, even these clowns have to know that this makes no sense.

There is no way that anyone would be ****** enough to try to cheat the system by documenting everything and sharing it with everyone who matters. Basically, seems that the only way that this could be possible is if WADA was in on it too.

And if USADA and WADA both were willing to go that far for Floyd Mayweather, whose own father didn't like him for awhile.

Well hey. We both know the real truth. I guess it really hurts when the "fighter of the decade" loses the "fight of the century," and thereby loses the title of fighter of the generation to his arch nemesis.

That's exactly the thing that got me.

The sheer complexity involved in cheating while everything is in plain view.

The sheer numbers of moving parts, all of which have to work perfectly.

And the fact that not only must they work for those months of the camp and all the way thru to the postfight testing, but the fact that those moving parts have to CONTINUE TO FUNCTION AD INFINITUM to keep the secret intact forever.

That just isn't realistic for any athlete that has tested using the newest methods, nevermind one as hated as Floyd.

[travestyny]

That's exactly the thing that got me.

The sheer complexity involved in cheating while everything is in plain view.

The sheer numbers of moving parts, all of which have to work perfectly.

And the fact that not only must they work for those months of the camp and all the way thru to the postfight testing, but the fact that those moving parts have to CONTINUE TO FUNCTION AD INFINITUM to keep the secret intact forever.

That just isn't realistic for any athlete that has tested using the newest methods, nevermind one as hated as Floyd.

You said all anyone needed to say right here. Wish I could give out more of that bullshlt karma, because this post is a classic.

Really no need to say anymore.

[ADP02]

Your problem is this, C-3PO...

YOU DON'T GET TO DETERMINE WHAT IS OR IS NOT AN EMERGENCY.

None of us do, really.

They got qualified medical personnel for that- like the paramedic who went to Floyd's home and the doctors who reviewed the retroactive TUE.

What Floyd did pretty much followed what's in the WADA code for retroactive TUEs exactly.

Dehydration (and/or if someone is having a problem hydrating properly due to rigorous exercise of a prolonged period) is also not something lay people like yourself get to spitball.

You don't get to say "the paramedic was wrong in giving the IV" or "they should have taken him to the hospital if it was THAT bad" because someone much more qualified medically than you and with eyes on the ground at the time made a decision based on their professional judgement.

That's like me saying "hell, forget about doing rehab like my doctor says, I am going to cure my injured shoulder by swimming in the ocean".

Oh wait...

So you couldn't respond .... Got it!

1) You came back with NOTHING when it came with Floyd stating that he was extremely dehydrated!


2) You came back with nothing to counter that Floyd was able to drink adequately!


3) Layman? You can find out for yourself like I did.
Severely dehydrated person including someone who has the runs: >10% body weight loss. Is that too hard for you Floyd fans? LOL


4) "the paramedic was wrong in giving the IV". WHAT?
As I told you a while back, Floyd is responsible for what goes into his body. The paramedic will not be looking up no WADA code BUT WADA says that it would still be Floyd's fault .... BECAUSE there are alternatives for one.

Secondly, read all the other points that point to Floyd NOT being severely dehydrated!!!!


5) Paramedic: Check out what Floyd had.
a) Getting a vitamins cokctail does NOT sound like what a regular paramedic would be giving.

b) Vitamin cokctail sounds more like one of the hydration services that VEGAS has that includes people who want to get rid of their hangovers!!!

They would do anything as it is a business!!!


Floyd is the one that is responsible for what goes in his body so your excuse is a lousy one!




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[koolkc107]

You said all anyone needed to say right here. Wish I could give out more of that bullshlt karma, because this post is a classic.

Really no need to say anymore.

Unfortunately, one look at Pac's posters all over their basement apartment and they will probably be back at it soon, regurgitating the same old nonsense.

[ADP02]

HERE YOU GO. ENJOY YET ANOTHER ASSWHIPPIN.

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WELTERWEIGHT FIGHTS

Pacquiao weighed in 142 for De La Hoya
He rehydrated to 148.5

Pacquiao weighed in 147 for Bradley I
He rehydrated to 150

Pacquiao weighed in 145 for Bradley II
He rehydrated to 151

Pacquiao weighed in 145 for Mayweather
He rehydrated to 152

Mayweather weighed in 146 for Judah
He rehydrated to 146

Mayweather weighed in 146 for Baldomir
He rehydrated to 149

Mayweather weighed in 147 for Mitchell
He rehydrated to 148

Mayweather weighed in 146.5 for Ortiz
He rehydrated to 150

Mayweather weighed in 146 for Maidana I
He rehydrated to 148

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Lightweight

Pacquiao weighed in 134.5 for David Diaz
He rehydrated to 147

Mayweather weighed in 134 for Sosa
He rehydrated to 140

Mayweather weighed in 135 for Ndou
He rehydrated to 140

Mayweather weighed in 134 for Castillo I
He rehydrated to 138.5

Mayweather weighed in 134 for Castillo II
He rehydrated to 138

Mayweather weighed in 134 for Augustus
He rehydrated to 139.


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Super featherweight

Pacquiao weighed in 129.5 for Morales.
He rehydrated to 139.

Mayweather weighed in 129.5 for Chavez.
He rehydrated to 137.5.

Mayweather weighed in 130 for Hernandez
He rehydrated to 139

Mayweather weighed in 130 for Corrales
He rehydrated to 136.5

Mayweather weighed in 130 for Vargas
He rehydrated to 139.5

Mayweather weighed in 130 for Juuko
He rehydrated to 136

Mayweather weighed in 130 for Rios
He rehydrated to 137

Mayweather weighed in 130 for Manfredy
He rehydrated to 138

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Miscellaneous

Pacquiao weighed in 106 at age 16.
Mayweather weighed in 106 at age 16.


Pacquaio weighed in at 143 for De La Hoya
He rehydrated to 148.5

Mayweather weighed in at 150 for De La Hoya
He “rehydrated” to 148 (according to him)

Mayweather weighed in 150.5 for Alvarez
He “rehydrated” to 150



Pacquaio weighed 144 for Margarito
He rehydrated to 148



LOWEST WEIGHT: 106 BOTH

HIGHEST WEIGHT: 152 PACQUIAO!!!



OH, BUT THAT WEIGHT DISCREPANCY IS SO BIG, DOE!!! LMAOOOOOOO! Get lost, Clown!

OH, BUT THAT WEIGHT DISCREPANCY IS SO BIG, DOE!!! LMAOOOOOOO!

So here you are OK with talking about weight discrepancies!!!


Look at those weights. Floyd was right. He made 147 EASILY for a decade including the Manny fight!!!!


Yet you Floyd fans believe that Floyd was extremely dehydrated at the weigh in and required BANNED IVs?




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[WesternChamp]

So here you are OK with talking about weight discrepancies!!!


Look at those weights. Floyd was right. He made 147 EASILY for a decade including the Manny fight!!!!


Yet you Floyd fans believe that Floyd was extremely dehydrated at the weigh in and required BANNED IVs?

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well.... got'em.

[koolkc107]

So you couldn't respond .... Got it!

I did respond, you just can't accept it because you think it will mean you don't love Pac anymore.

1) You came back with NOTHING when it came with Floyd stating that he was extremely dehydrated!

I don't have to come back with anything. A professional paramedic called completely at random made that determination. I think that person-who would suffer professional and legal consequences for any malpractice- is more qualified than either of us, don't you?


2) You came back with nothing to counter that Floyd was able to drink adequately!

Again, I didn't have to. I am sure the paramedic had pedialyte or some other oral rehydration substance in his van. The paramedic determined the IV was the way to go, probably after noting that the attempts at oral hydration weren't going so well.


3) Layman? You can find out for yourself like I did.
Severely dehydrated person including someone who has the runs: >10% body weight loss. Is that too hard for you Floyd fan

I did find out for myself. And what I kept finding out is that what we think is dehydration is not always the same as what a medical professional considers dehydration. You really should try sources other than Thomas Hauser or other Floyd haters. The difference between you and I is that I read views FROM BOTH HATERS AND SUPPORTERS. Doing that usually equates to a better overall view of things.


4) "the paramedic was wrong in giving the IV". WHAT?
As I told you a while back, Floyd is responsible for what goes into his body. The paramedic will not be looking up no WADA code BUT WADA says that it would still be Floyd's fault .... BECAUSE there are alternatives for one.

The DCO was present the whole time. Floyd literally had a WADA/USADA reference standing right there to tell him what was kosher and what would not be kosher. The WADA code has provisions for retroactive TUEs for exactly the situation that occured. Deal with it.

Secondly, read all the other points that point to Floyd NOT being severely dehydrated!!!!


5) Paramedic: Check out what Floyd had.
a) Getting a vitamins cokctail does NOT sound like what a regular paramedic would be giving.

b) Vitamin cokctail sounds more like one of the hydration services that VEGAS has that includes people who want to get rid of their hangovers!!!

They would do anything as it is a business!!!


Floyd is the one that is responsible for what goes in his body so your excuse is a lousy one!




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Again, not my call and not your call. That's why those professionals spend years training- instead of getting a medical license after a few bitter boxing board posts.

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I will remind you still one more time to stop pulling shyt out of your arse and start citing sources for what you contend.

[ADP02]

I don't have to look for a loophole, fool. The fact of the matter is none of us knows the details of this TUE except for the physicians directly involved. The only thing that shape up was ever right about is what we already knew. This had to be considered either a acute or chronic medical condition. That is the WADA rule. Now if you know more about what would be considered an acute or chronic condition than the USADA TUEC, let me know. I'm certainly not buying anything from you, and I'm bored of this already.

You have no creditability left! Why should anyone believe you, the internet doctor extraordinaire, when you've been exposed here numerous times for giving false information and blatantly lying. The odds are a zillion to one that you are simply a butthurt fan of #48.

I'll take the implicit word of WADA physicians who saw the anonymous TUE application over someone like you who blatantly pulls shlt out of his ass and tries to pass it off as gold. And you're certainly full of shlt, as I've proven over and over.

Now, unless you want to gain some of your creditability back by responding to the post where I pointed out your most glaring, yet not your complete list, of blunders here, then there's nothing left to say.








Do you renounce these statements? If you cannot admit you are wrong, your creditability is shlt. What's it going to be? Say that you were wrong! STOP DUCKING AND... DEFLECTINGGG. Until you can be a man and admit that you were wrong about these things, don't expect another post from me. I'm tired of kicking you fools around.

Internet doctor? BUT are you not the keyboard warrior?

WTF man, you have just found a new way of DEFLECTING!!!


You want me to answer your points even though you have been baffled for 2+ years on what to say when it comes to Floyd case, health wise?


For those points:
I told you already.
What if the DCO determines a reason to stop the sample collection. He would be providing those samples only to the WADA LAB. Is that too hard to understand?

If Floyd produced exactly 90ml and dropped in Sample A and B container and had no urine left over then there would be no urine to test for SG!!!

Even in your gif, the DCO extracted more than a drop as its not easy to sniff out 1 drop from the container! The DCO had in the dropper closer to several ml of urine. From that, he placed the drop into the refractometer.

We do not know what the DCO would use. There are 2 methods. If done by way of the dip stick, well, you cannot dip into a drop of urine!!!






Back to you being baffled for 2+ years on what to say when it comes to Floyd's case, health wise?

You know, you have numbers, statistics, look up WADA documents but you cannot get close to the true issue that we have here.

Floyd was not extremely dehydrated!!!

Floyd drank adequately and there is plenty of evidence for that now!!!!!

146 + drinking adequately = Floyd was NOT extremely dehydrated.


Severe dehydration: >10% body weight loss in fluids




Your only come back is that FLoyd went for a jog???
a) but Floyd's weight!!!! It's the same as usual!!!

b) but Floyd's interviews contradict your point (Relax and go to the gym a little bit to stay sharp)

c) Alez Ariza's interviews contradict your point in several respects.
- Ariza said that he does it by the numbers and its all planned from day #1. He monitors his fighter.
- Ariza said that he felt that it was Manny who looked drained and over-trained and meant that he felt otherwise when it came to his guy, Floyd.
- Ariza does NOT recommend long jogs as it does not simulate a boxing fights tempo!

d) Training hard is over at that point bud. It's counter productive when your fight is the next day!



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Your other come back is that FLoyd had the runs???
a) but Floyd's weight!!!! It's the same as usual!!! Check out the stats in YOUR other post!

b) The runs: but the points that I verified (severe dehydration > 10% body weight loss of fluids) include someone who has the runs!!!

c) Could you see Floyd having the runs and jogging. That is not a good mix.?





Actually here is someone who had an acute medical problem and was given an IV. This dude went to the hospital and the doctors stated that he can't fight! Fight was cancelled ....


What did USADA do?
Was it a rubber stamped RETRO TUE that was provided the next day? NO WAY!


This guy, McCall, was thoroughly vetted and the process took months!!!


He was supposed to fight on February 10 and requested for a RETROACTIVE TUE soon after in February
BUT
it took USADA to complete their thorough investigation and approve the RETRO TUE nearly 4 months!!! ==>>> June 9.




Remember what you said. It was just a simple IV. Shouldn't it have been rubber stamped in a day or two? What gives???

McCall was expected to fight Jarred Brooks at UFC 208 but was pulled from the card the day of the fight due to illness. The flyweight was given two IVs following the weigh ins the day before after vomiting and failing to keep down water. IVs are only administered when it is medically necessary, which was the case with McCall prior to UFC 208.

"McCall was transported to a local hospital with gastrointestinal issues and was pulled from the card on the doctor's recommendation," according to the UFC statement.

UFC flyweight Ian McCall is officially in the clear. The 32-year-old has been granted a retroactive the****utic use exemption (TUE) by United States Anti-Doping Agency (USADA) for two IVs given to him on Feb. 10 prior to UFC 208.

USADA released an official statement on their decision to grant “Uncle Creepy” a retroactive TUE earlier today (Fri., June 9, 2017):

“After a thorough investigation of the circumstances surrounding the potential violation, which included the retroactive TUE application process, USADA determined that the athlete had a diagnosed acute medical condition for which the use of an intravenous infusion is consistent with the standard of care,” the statement read. “Because McCall’s TUE application was granted retroactively, his use of a prohibited method will not result in an anti-doping policy violation.”

- thorough investigation????
- For a retroactive TUE application process?????
- potential violation????
- his use of a prohibited method will not result in an anti-doping policy violation?????

Man, did you read the statements from USADA? This guy was even sent to the hospital and didn't even fight yet there was still a thorough investigation.

With Floyd, they chose their words carefully, protected him like crazy and like I told you, USADA didn't do no freaking thorough investigation!!!!




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