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  • Here is another example from usada-------Some reports suggest that administration of IV infusions, including dietary supplement and vitamin ****tails, are being provided to athletes for recuperation, recovery or lifestyle reasons. This medical practice is prohibited at all times without prior TUE approval.

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    • Originally posted by Shape up View Post
      These 4 criteria have to be met for a TUE, -----3. WHAT ARE THE CRITERIA FOR GRANTING A TUE? UP

      The criteria are:

      The athlete would experience significant health problems without taking the prohibited substance or method;
      The the****utic use of the substance would not produce significant enhancement of performance;
      There is no reasonable the****utic alternative to the use of the otherwise prohibited substance or method;
      The requirement to use that substance or method is not due to the prior use of the substance or method without a TUE which was prohibited at the time of use.
      For the TUE to be granted, all four criteria must be met., then he needs to meet this, -IV infusions during home visits, urgent care or after-hours clinics, boutique IV and rehydration services, and doctor’s office visits are not hospital admissions and would require an approved TUE in advance.--------its quite clear he didn't meet all of the criteria so it doesn't matter what garbage, maybe, if, possibly rules you post because he needs to fulfil the criteria, remember fluid said himself it was for rehydration, his urine was dark, no medical condition mentioned, WADA says ther can't be any alternative legal cure which there is, drink water
      Yes, it must meet those criteria. Now if you have evidence that he didn’t meet those criteria, let us know.

      Simple, right?

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      • Originally posted by Shape up View Post
        IV infusions during home visits, urgent care or after-hours clinics, boutique IV and rehydration services, and doctor’s office visits are not hospital admissions and would require an approved TUE in advance.--------------- this will be a perfect example, I've posted this numerous times and ******NY just doesn't want to know about it, he's tried to use football IVs on field, he's tried all kinds of medical explainations but fluid said it was just rehydration
        If I'm understanding what you are saying, yes, in general, I believe that you are correct.

        What I mean by that:
        If Floyd was just trying to recuperate from dehydration, YES, Floyd needed a TUE IN ADVANCE!!!

        If Floyd was in an emergency type situation where it was URGENT that he received an IV due to lets say, life threatening situation, then Floyd didn't need a TUE in advance.


        SO when Travestyny brings up that Floyd perhaps went for a jog and then needed an IV to recuperate from dehydration, NO WAY should Floyd have received a BS RETRO TUE! USADA clearly states this (see below)!


        This is what USADA themselves state:
        "Some reports suggest that administration of IV infusions, including dietary supplement and vitamin Cokctails, are being provided to athletes for recuperation, recovery or lifestyle reasons.

        This medical practice is prohibited at all times without prior TUE approval."
        Vitamin Cokctails: Isn't this what Floyd received to "recuperate, recovery" from dehydration? Well, USADA says a TUE is required in advance at all times!

        You point fits right into this since it was more than likely just one of those VEGAS rehydration services that did this. They went to Floyd's house to give him an IV and gave him a vitamin cokctail to rehydrate. These companies do this for people with hangovers too.


        NOTE: There are other rules for IV. So it's not a done deal to just apply for a TUE in advance.


        and in general USADA says this:
        USADA considers retroactive TUEs only in emergency circumstances, and generally requires 28 days of processing time for a TUE application.15 When preparing for a surgery, the USADA website provides a to-do surgery checklist that covers anti-doping information that can be used by the athlete and the physician.

        They also try to use loop holes to try to make it sound like what Floyd did was OK but that is not true. If Floyd was using an IV to recover/recuperate from dehydration, that is NOT allowed without having a TUE approval in advance.



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        Last edited by ADP02; 11-08-2017, 05:16 AM.

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        • Originally posted by Shape up View Post
          Here is another example from usada-------Some reports suggest that administration of IV infusions, including dietary supplement and vitamin ****tails, are being provided to athletes for recuperation, recovery or lifestyle reasons. This medical practice is prohibited at all times without prior TUE approval.
          I just saw this .... yes, you are correct.

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          • Originally posted by travestyny View Post
            Yes, it must meet those criteria. Now if you have evidence that he didn’t meet those criteria, let us know.

            Simple, right?
            The evidence is right in front of you but you do not want to admit it.

            Dehydration is simply losing fluids which implies that your body weight would take a hit(lose weight).

            BUT

            Floyd came in on weight like he did for a decade!!!

            AND

            Admitted to making weight EASILY!!!


            Floyd had to be excessively dehydrated to be allowed to use an IV. Less than that, Floyd would have to be using the alternative route (simply drinking fluids). Floyd did that as you can see below!


            So scientifically and medically, it doesn't make any sense and you have NEVER explained this properly to anyone's satisfaction DEFLECTO!












            Here is Dr Alex Ariza making sure that Floyd is nice and hydrated.




            Look at the smile on Floyd's face! LOL

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            • Originally posted by ADP02 View Post
              The evidence is right in front of you but you do not want to admit it.

              Dehydration is simply losing fluids which implies that your body weight would take a hit(lose weight).

              BUT

              Floyd came in on weight like he did for a decade!!!

              AND

              Admitted to making weight EASILY!!!


              Floyd had to be excessively dehydrated to be allowed to use an IV. Less than that, Floyd would have to be using the alternative route (simply drinking fluids). Floyd did that as you can see below!


              So scientifically and medically, it doesn't make any sense and you have NEVER explained this properly to anyone's satisfaction DEFLECTO!












              Here is Dr Alex Ariza making sure that Floyd is nice and hydrated.




              Look at the smile on Floyd's face! LOL

              Excuse me, but didn't I already murder you, zombie boy? Don't you have some explaining to do? Don't you have some fessing up to do about all the shlt you were wrong about and lied about? By the way, here it is again, for you this time:

              From the ISTUE:

              4.3 An Athlete may only be granted retroactive approval for his/her The****utic Use of a Prohibited Substance or Prohibited Method (i.e., a retroactive TUE) if:

              a. Emergency treatment or treatment of an acute medical condition was necessary; or

              c. The applicable rules required the athlete (see comment to article 5.1) or permitted the athlete (see code article 4.4.5) to apply for a retroactive tue; or
              Code Article 4.4.5

              if an anti-doping organization chooses to collect a sample from a person who is not an international- level or national-level athlete, and that person is using a prohibited substance or prohibited method for the****utic reasons, the anti-doping organization may permit him or her to apply for a retroactive tue.

              This is from the WADA CODE AND THE INTERNATIONAL STANDARD FOR THE****UTIC USE EXEMPTIONS! The single most important documents in this entire process. Give up.

              Nothing you say, nothing you bring up, trumps these two documents!



              There you go. Nothing was amiss with the retroactive TUE. That's first of all.

              Second, you keep talking about him drinking water. Dosumptin has tried to explain this to you using a simple example for over a year now, but you still can't understand it. I've also tried to explain it. It goes like this:

              JUST BECAUSE YOU ARE PHYSICALLY CAPABLE OF DRINKING WATER DOES NOT MEAN THAT IT IS NOT MORE FITTING FOR YOU TO HAVE AN INTRAVENOUS INFUSION.

              Dosumptin has asked you over and over for what was probably over a year now about what information you have on Mayweather's medical condition. Did he have the runs? If so....that wouldn't stop him from drinking, but it would make it appropriate for him to have the IV.

              And again, it need not be an emergency, as you can see above.

              Now are you going to apologize for all of your lies and fess up about all the shlt you were wrong about, or are you going to just pretend that never happened?
              Last edited by travestyny; 11-08-2017, 06:00 AM.

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              • Originally posted by Dosumpthin View Post
                Lol. I remember that!!! I remember reading some idiot using Floyd vs BIG SHOW WWE weight to prove a point about Floyd's fight night weight.

                That was westernchamp?????? What a ****ing loser.

                LMAO.





                ****ing idiot.




                Damn. Pact@rds looking real bad in this thread. Lol.


                WWE?


                That's worst than ADP02 link to a WHIZZINATOR quote.




                That was a link to an interview by Travis Tygart (USADA) who explained that one can mask given 72 hours of advance notice down to 10 minutes notice. For 10 minutes notice he gave 2 examples. Whizzinator and catheter.

                The interview was taken soon after Floyd/Manny tried to negotiate their fight initially.


                People have used both techniques including athletes. You guys just like to DEFLECT from the main point that USADA's Tygart was trying to make and which Floyd could have done (ie. masked) given that he had a delay of 6+ hours. Memo Heredia being consulted may have helped.



                "The Whizzinator was made famous by celebrities like Ontario Smith, Mike Tyson, and Tom Sizemore".

                "Some athletes would inject clean urine into their bladders using a catheter"
                Others use unknown or undetectable masking agents in various ways.



                Q: If I had 72 hours, could I mask EPO?

                A: "Yeah."

                Q: If I knew it was coming, I could mask it?

                A: "Yeah. Same with steroids."

                Q: How quickly could I mask it? What's the shortest time frame, if I knew it was coming, that I could mask it?

                A: "I mean, we do not notice. We literally show up, and knock on a door, and we find them."

                Q: My question is, if I knew 20 hours before the test, would I have time to mask it? Six hours? One hour? What would it be?

                A: "Yep, all that."

                Q: If I knew 10 minutes before test, could I mask it?

                A: "Yep. If you had some urine and a Whizzinator, 10 minutes before, you could mask it. If you had a catheter, which is not that tough to do, you could do it."

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                Last edited by ADP02; 11-08-2017, 06:04 AM.

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                • Originally posted by ADP02 View Post
                  Look at the smile on Floyd's face! LOL

                  That's like the smile I had on my face when you were writing all that shlt yesterday.

                  Are you going to admit you were wrong. Let's hear you say it, bltch. I'm waiting.


                  Poor poor ADP02. I feel bad for you. It must really hurt for you to get kicked around by one person so damn much. I've actually gotten tired of kicking your ass. Seriously.

                  It's over clown. Unless you want to take this opportunity to fess up about your lies and false statements. Waiting......

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                  • Originally posted by ADP02 View Post
                    That was a link to an interview by Travis Tygart (USADA)
                    Speaking of USADA, talk to me about Salazar and Rupp. You got any more you want to say about that?


                    Come on, little guy. Waiting for you to admit you were wrong. Can you do it? Say it. Say it!!!

                    [img]https://media.*****.com/media/l3E6uhDAN3W7vylji/*****.gif[/img]

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                    • Originally posted by travestyny View Post
                      Speaking of USADA, talk to me about Salazar and Rupp. You got any more you want to say about that?


                      Come on, little guy. Waiting for you to admit you were wrong. Can you do it? Say it. Say it!!!

                      [img]https://media.*****.com/media/l3E6uhDAN3W7vylji/*****.gif[/img]
                      See again you failed to address those rules and criteria, would you like the link to floyd saying in an interview he was just dehydrated, even floyd was lost for words

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