Here's Where All The Floyd Cheat Theories Fail

[koolkc107]

We will have to agree to disagree here!

The thing is though, there aren't any artificial supplements / substances / drugs one can consume which will be 100% safe without some side effects or risks. Hence, they are artificial! Even legal ones. So nobody is immune to 100% 'harm' if they decide to enhance themselves artificially through chemical means.

For me, I don't see why any PED should be illegal. Making one legal and another illegal is simply cherry picking arbitrarily. Especially when both the legal and illegal PED provide the exact same benefits. Which is why I really don't care if any athlete is taking any PED but hey, that's just my opinion!

I am kinda on the fence with that.

I don't want anyone taking something that will cause long term harm and plenty of the illegal substances and methods do that, which is partly why they are illegal in the first place.

But, those methods that are safe and do not adversely affect athletes long term should get a second look.

I just think the playing field should be leveled and any enhancements should not put an athlete- or a potential opponent of that athlete- in danger.

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Compliance with the Code
Signatories shall not be considered in compliance with the Code until they have accepted and implemented the Code in accordance with Articles 23.1, 23.2, and 23.3. They shall no longer be considered in compliance once acceptance has been withdrawn.--------- WOW this was omitted in the contract aswell, usada breaking compliance again

[Shape up]

The following Articles as applicable to the scope of the anti-doping activity which the anti-doping organization performs must be implemented by Signatories without substantive change (allowing for any non-substantive changes to the language in order to refer to the organization’s name, sport, section numbers, etc.):
• Article 1 (De nition of Doping)
• Article 2 (Anti-Doping Rule Violations)
• Article 3 (Proof of Doping)
• Article 4.2.2 (Speci ed Substances)
• Article 4.3.3 (Wada’s Determination of the Prohibited list)
• Article 7.11 (Retirement from Sport)
• Article 9 (Automatic disquali cation of individual Results)
• Article 10 (Sanctions on Individuals)
• Article 11 (Consequences to Teams)
• Article 13 (Appeals) with the exception of 13.2.2, 13.6, and 13.7
• Article 15.1 (Recognition of Decisions)
• Article 17 (Statute of Limitations)
• Article 24 (Interpretation of the Code)
• Appendix 1 - Definitions---------- you still need to answer this aswell

[koolkc107]

Only an idiot with no idea of what role a signatory plays in implementing and enforcing the WADA code would make the mistake of believing that the entire WADA code has to be included in a contract between a signatory and pro athletes.

You clearly do not understand what you are posting or why.

[travestyny]

The following Articles as applicable to the scope of the anti-doping activity which the anti-doping organization performs must be implemented by Signatories without substantive change (allowing for any non-substantive changes to the language in order to refer to the organization’s name, sport, section numbers, etc.):
• Article 1 (De nition of Doping)
• Article 2 (Anti-Doping Rule Violations)
• Article 3 (Proof of Doping)
• Article 4.2.2 (Speci ed Substances)
• Article 4.3.3 (Wada’s Determination of the Prohibited list)
• Article 7.11 (Retirement from Sport)
• Article 9 (Automatic disquali cation of individual Results)
• Article 10 (Sanctions on Individuals)
• Article 11 (Consequences to Teams)
• Article 13 (Appeals) with the exception of 13.2.2, 13.6, and 13.7
• Article 15.1 (Recognition of Decisions)
• Article 17 (Statute of Limitations)
• Article 24 (Interpretation of the Code)
• Appendix 1 - Definitions---------- you still need to answer this aswell

Why did you duck?

Perma ban bet? Yes or no?

[ADP02]

Exactly what I thought.

1. So you just admit that you based this on absolutely nothing because even you know it makes no sense. So now you are trying to imply he cycles off of one thing before testing, used something else throughout testing and passed, and needed an IV because what he did all throughout testing either wasn’t good enough or he got caught at a bad time. Do you realize how ******ed that all is? Look how much bs you just wrote to justify that.

2. HUGE DEFLECTION! It was a simple question. Why would they take option 1 over 2. Can you answer?

3. Another huge deflection. You said the DCO’s SPG test is flawed, yet you have absolutely no evidence besides of things a DCO should be aware of?

Nick Diaz doesn’t apply, buddy. That wasn’t USADA. WADA labs can test any sample no matter spg. USADA has to accept undiluted samples. You want to try this question again?

4. Again, you only gave a half assed answer to part B. Where is the rest.

Come on. You can do better than this, can’t you? I need all questions answered because they are connected. For example, how did Floyd delay if his partial sample was given when the DCO arrived. You skipped that question in #4.

1. Oh brother! Your statement makes no sense! USADA and other ADOs have suspended athletes without knowing exactly what the athlete used as a PED. Am I wrong? Nope! USADA has suspended athletes even if they believed their story. Meaning that being ignorant is not a good reason to use a BANNED drug or method.

I'm saying that there is not one thing only that Floyd could have done!!! Why is that so hard for you to understand? It can also be something that I or you cannot even think about but Floyd was trying to delay and dilute his urine sample as much as possible.

Athletes have cheated with the DCO present and/or close by. Is that possible during the 6+ hours that Floyd delayed? YES!



Did you show me in the videos that day who was the DCO? Nope! How come? I thought the DCO is supposed to be next to Floyd at all times. It must have been easy to spot him every time that camera was on Floyd, it should have been on the DCO too. Right?




2. So you have no idea what Floyd did and made up the options and expect me to follow your options? Funny stuff!

I see that you didn't like option #3 DEFLECTO!!!



3. LOL ... May I remind you that you tried to say that when the DCO takes a specific gravity test that nothing can go wrong. I gave you like 15 points on what can go wrong.



Nick Diaz: All you were doing when we discussed this back then was that the process was based on WADA accredited this and that so it was better than QUEST results and at that it was so much better that only those tests should be looked at. Then I shot that all down by pointing out that at least 1 sample by SMRTL was too dilute. You then backtracked ....

Nick Diaz:
"Of those three samples, the first and the third were administered under World Anti-Doping Agency (WADA) protocol and submitted for testing to the WADA-accredited Sports Medicine Research and Testing Laboratory in Salt Lake City, UT. Both of those tests came back clean.

The 10:38 p.m. test, however, was administered by a separate testing representative and submitted to Quest Diagnostics, a non-WADA accredited lab in New Jersey. That test came back over the threshold for allowable marijuana metabolites, resulting in the lone positive test.

The ‘B’ sample for the Quest result was never requested for testing.

Diaz’s defense, led by Middlebrook, argued that the existence of two negative tests taken the span of a few hours, both conducted under WADA protocol, cast the Quest result as “scientifically unreliable” and an “inexplicable outlier.”"

But now Travestyny is saying that both tests were questionable?



Anyhoot, the DCO went to Floyd's place to collect a urine sample. Floyd was supposedly too dehydrated to give provide.


Lets face it. Floyd was not severely dehydrated. You avoid the TRUTH like the plague!!!



4. LOL ... please show me proof that Floyd was still at his home and not heading off to MGM soon after the DCO arrived.

I remember seeing pics of FLoyd at the MGM way before the weigh-in.


With the Mosley 24/7, I remember Floyd walking with his urine sample. Show me at the weigh-in a gif, a picture, a video ... you cannot. Where was this urine sample?


I should also mention that it was also possible that the initial sample was dilute or very dilute. DCO checks the color and thinks that as long as there is color, it means it's dehydrated "enough" without realizing that it could have color due to other reasons.



They will mix partial A and B then since Floyd is too dehydrated, there may be just enough urine but not the full quantity that can still go into the vessel. Consequently, there would also not any residual urine to verify the specific gravity.


Finally, I pointed out like 15 points in my previous post. Go read and enjoy!





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[travestyny]

1. Oh brother! Your statement makes no sense! USADA and other ADOs have suspended athletes without knowing exactly what the athlete used as a PED. Am I wrong? Nope! USADA has suspended athletes even if they believed their story. Meaning that being ignorant is not a good reason to use a BANNED drug or method.

I'm saying that there is not one thing only that Floyd could have done!!! Why is that so hard for you to understand? It can also be something that I or you cannot even think about but Floyd was trying to delay and dilute his urine sample as much as possible.

Athletes have cheated with the DCO present and/or close by. Is that possible during the 6+ hours that Floyd delayed? YES!



Did you show me in the videos that day who was the DCO? Nope! How come? I thought the DCO is supposed to be next to Floyd at all times. It must have been easy to spot him every time that camera was on Floyd, it should have been on the DCO too. Right?




2. So you have no idea what Floyd did and made up the options and expect me to follow your options? Funny stuff!

I see that you didn't like option #3 DEFLECTO!!!



3. LOL ... May I remind you that you tried to say that when the DCO takes a specific gravity test that nothing can go wrong. I gave you like 15 points on what can go wrong.



Nick Diaz: All you were doing when we discussed this back then was that the process was based on WADA accredited this and that so it was better than QUEST results and at that it was so much better that only those tests should be looked at. Then I shot that all down by pointing out that at least 1 sample by SMRTL was too dilute. You then backtracked ....





But now Travestyny is saying that both tests were questionable?



Anyhoot, the DCO went to Floyd's place to collect a urine sample. Floyd was supposedly too dehydrated to give provide.


Lets face it. Floyd was not severely dehydrated. You avoid the TRUTH like the plague!!!



4. LOL ... please show me proof that Floyd was still at his home and not heading off to MGM soon after the DCO arrived.

I remember seeing pics of FLoyd at the MGM way before the weigh-in.


With the Mosley 24/7, I remember Floyd walking with his urine sample. Show me at the weigh-in a gif, a picture, a video ... you cannot. Where was this urine sample?


I should also mention that it was also possible that the initial sample was dilute or very dilute. DCO checks the color and thinks that as long as there is color, it means it's dehydrated "enough" without realizing that it could have color due to other reasons.



They will mix partial A and B then since Floyd is too dehydrated, there may be just enough urine but not the full quantity that can still go into the vessel. Consequently, there would also not any residual urine to verify the specific gravity.


Finally, I pointed out like 15 points in my previous post. Go read and enjoy!





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You still going? How about answering my question instead of deflecting?


We can go to the thunderdome about Nick Diaz anytime you want bltch. I bet you don’t like that.

You have NO PROOF. You are desperate. Look at the dumb shlt you said:

1. he cycles off then cycles on for testing. Proof? None

2. DCO can’t take SPG properly. Proof? Nope.

3. HT constantly irregular. Proof. Nope.

4. Why didn’t USADA ignore the IV.

DEFLECTEDDDDD. WHY DIDNT YOU ANSWER. BECAUSE YOUR CONSPIRACY THEORY IS ****ING ****** AND YOU’RE GONNA CRY OVER THIS SHlT FOREVER BECAUSE FLOYD BEAT PAC LIKE A ****ING SPARRING PARTNER!

What about the sample before the IV? DEFLECTEDDDD


Then you tried to deflect to another dude, and didn’t check up to realize you gave info that supports my claim you moron!


Answer my question you ****ing idiot. You can add option 3. Now tell me, which option is the smartest for a cheating USADA, you moron.
WHEN ARE YOU GOING TO ANSWER. DONT DEFLECT BlTCH. ANSWER THE QUESTION!!!

[travestyny]

Finally, I pointed out like 15 points in my previous post. Go read and enjoy!
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What does it matter if it was all a big DEFLECTION you moron. Give some ****ing facts instead of talking about shlt that has nothing to do with the topic. The DCO can’t take specific gravity properly.... and what was your proof? Lmaoooo. Nothing bltch. Try again.

Then you’re so ****** that you talk about the lab doing the specific gravity test, which is my point you moron!!!! 2 separate en****** checking the sample for dehydration

Oh, and please keep deflecting to other athletes. You support my viewpoint well. If USADA didn’t know about that guy getting infusions, WHY THE **** WOULD THEY DOCUMENT AN INFUSION THAT THEY ILLEGALLY HELPED YOU MORON!!!

You don’t want to explain that do you, DEFLECTOR. THIS IS WHY I KICKED YOUR ASS 4-0. ONCE YOU COULDNT DEFLECT AND HAD JUDGES....lmaooooooo...you couldn’t win a single vote. Stop deflecting and answer questions bltch!!! YOU GOT OBLITERATED LIKE PACQUIAO Vs. MARQUEZ. DID YOU WAKE UP FROM THAT KNOCKOUT YET? I don’t think so.

[travestyny]

I should also mention that it was also possible that the initial sample was dilute or very dilute. DCO checks the color and thinks that as long as there is color, it means it's dehydrated "enough" without realizing that it could have color due to other reasons.

They will mix partial A and B then since Floyd is too dehydrated, there may be just enough urine but not the full quantity that can still go into the vessel. Consequently, there would also not any residual urine to verify the specific gravity.

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How the **** is he still too dehydrated....after rehydrating you absolute moron?

LMAOOOOOO. YOU ARE A ****ING IDIOT. And NOW HIS INITIAL SAMPLE IS DILUTED??? How much speculation are you gonna make up???

Now he knew USADA was coming right? So he changed the color of his urine before they got there, right?

But I thought you said he didn’t expect to be tested!!!

PERFECT EXAMPLE OF HOW YOU KEEP SQUIRMING AND MAKE NO DAMN SENSE!!! Shut your desperate ass up!

[Shape up]

Only an idiot with no idea of what role a signatory plays in implementing and enforcing the WADA code would make the mistake of believing that the entire WADA code has to be included in a contract between a signatory and pro athletes.

You clearly do not understand what you are posting or why.

Read the rule and then try really hard to understand what it means, but by your reply I see you realize they omitted articles