Here's Where All The Floyd Cheat Theories Fail

[travestyny]

You answered nothing little girl, (A)were they Olympians, NO,

IS FLOYD MAYWEATHER AN OLYMPIAN, YOU ****ING ******????

(B) was there alternative treatment available for asthma, NO,
(C)they looked over justinos medical history, interviewed her doctor, (D) did fluid have an alternative treatment available yes, drink water you gimp ped cheat

Look at your ****ing ducking and hiding. Is it up to you if IV rehydration is appropriate, or up to the physician and the TUE committee? Go suck a dlck and choke on your hate for Floyd Mayweather. I'm tired of embarrassing you. Bail the **** out like you wanted to do a few days ago, but only came back because that idiot Spoon mentioned you and I politely reminded him that you've already had the shlt kicked out of you, and that made you feel some kind of way so you came back. Kick rocks, idiot.

[Shape up]

Dude, you were the one who brought Conte into this discussion, now you are rambling about how he is wrong about this and that. What gives?

It's ok to admit that you were wrong. Just stop it!





Floyd Landis was tested in July 2006. His samples were retested using CIR testing in April of 2007. They were found positive.

Can you admit you are wrong now?

So let's see where we are now, according to you and tooli, it's ok for usada to break rules because of the media storm it would cause by fluid going to hospital and it doesn't matter that there was another legal way to rehydrate such as drink water, yet wada rules specify that's what he should do if mildly dehydrated

[travestyny]

So let's see where we are now, according to you and tooli, it's ok for usada to break rules because of the media storm it would cause by fluid going to hospital and it doesn't matter that there was another legal way to rehydrate such as drink water, yet wada rules specify that's what he should do if mildly dehydrated

How about before you write anymore, you answer the original questions I had for you. You need to earn talking privileges.

1. How did Floyd Mayweather dilute a urine sample that was specifically checked by the DCO and by the independent WADA lab for dilution? Did he dilute it by making it more concentrated?

2. If USADA broke WADA's rules, as you claim, why hasn't WADA sanctioned USADA?


I've been waiting a long time. If you can't answer, just stop typing. Thanks.

[koolkc107]

So let's see where we are now, according to you and tooli, it's ok for usada to break rules because of the media storm it would cause by fluid going to hospital and it doesn't matter that there was another legal way to rehydrate such as drink water, yet wada rules specify that's what he should do if mildly dehydrated

You are going to have to show me where WADA sanctioned or at least talked bad about USADA for breaking rules.

You are going to have to show me where the NSAC is taking action against USADA for breaking rules.

Just because one protocol wasn't followed to the letter doesn't mean there were no other correct and acceptable options that were followed.

So, if you are going to alleged rule breaking, it isn't enough for you to look up some protocol, I NEED A WADA OFFICIAL SAYING WHAT RULE WAS BROKEN AND WHO IS BEING PUNISHED FOR THE INFRACTION.

You can't do that, stop saying rules were broken because obviously they were not.

You are also going to have to show where Floyd was only "mildly dehydrated". A medical professional was called to his residence and administered an IV. You think that paramedic can just run around giving folks saline simply because they ask for it? Guess what? That paramedic has a boss, that boss is going to want to know what precipitated giving not one but 2 IVs.

A medical professional thought that Floyd was dehydrated enough to administer an IV instead of Gatorade or Pedialyte. WADA rules about what should be done when someone is mildly dehydrated are moot here.

Another poster (Ray* I believe) came in and spoke about Haye-Bellow and how a visit to a doctor days before created a furor and had folks calling for a postponement.

To think that news of Mayweather in the hospital at around 3pm the day before the fight WOULD NOT BE A CATASTROPHE OF BIBLICAL PROPORTIONS is just damned naive or ignorant.

It's all that would be on every spotschannel and a few cable news outlets as well.

500M on the line and you are saying he should have gone to a hospital.

Are you insane?

[maracho]

Dude, you were the one who brought Conte into this discussion, now you are rambling about how he is wrong about this and that. What gives?

It's ok to admit that you were wrong. Just stop it!


Floyd Landis was tested in July 2006. His samples were retested using CIR testing in April of 2007. They were found positive.

Can you admit you are wrong now?

No, Landis was found guilty in 2007 but he was CIR tested before August 2006 less than one month after his T/E ratios were setting off red flags. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Floyd_...s_testosterone However, thanks for revealing that Landis juiced on his day of competition which runs contrary to Conte and your earlier premise; that is, that roids hinder an athlete when taken close to the day of competition and thus, your conclusion that Floyd Mayweather didn’t need to use banned IV near the day of his competition.

Even if you had been right, we’d have a long way to go before accepting the premise that a man's girl-like testosterone levels can always be dismissed as normal by negative CIR. That’s because an athlete can juice for months then taper off before the testing begins. Then there are all the Peds that can be out of their system within a matter of hours.

[travestyny]

No, Landis was found guilty in 2007 but he was CIR tested before August 2006 less than one month after his T/E ratios were setting off red flags. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Floyd_...s_testosterone However, thanks for revealing that Landis juiced on his day of competition which runs contrary to Conte and your earlier premise; that is, that roids hinder an athlete when taken close to the day of competition and thus, your conclusion that Floyd Mayweather didn’t need to use banned IV near the day of his competition.

Did you read the article. His samples were retested in 2007.
Your article says it! At the bottom of the paragraph it says that USADA requested to have the B samples of about 4 other urine tests tested. Then it links to an article about it.

Here is what it says in the article:

In April, over the objections of Landis' lawyers, the arbitration panel voted 2-1 to allow USADA to have the remaining seven "B" samples, or backup urine samples, tested at the same French laboratory that found the original positive.

USADA lawyer Richard Young said Monday that four of the seven "B" samples showed the presence of synthetic testosterone.

The "B" samples analyzed in April are not considered official positives because the "A" samples that would have confirmed them were destroyed by previous testing.
http://www.espn.com/olympics/cycling...ory?id=2871865

The samples were from July 2006. The B samples were tested in APRIL 2007.

And stop putting words in my mouth. All I said was that Conte said no one is going to be ****** enough to cheat immediately before an event. And he was talking about combat sports in the 2010's, I believe, not about Floyd Landis in 2006-2007.

Even if you had been right, we’d have a long way to go before accepting the premise that a man's girl-like testosterone levels can always be dismissed as normal by negative CIR. That’s because an athlete can juice for months then taper off before the testing begins. Then there are all the Peds that can be out of their system within a matter of hours.

What I've proven is you've been wrong about everything you've mentioned so far, the head of a WADA lab told you that the values were not abnormal, the guy that you interjected into this conversation said what needed to be done but suddenly you reject his statement and numerous other statements from him because they don't fit your agenda. Everything I've said has been verified, linked to, and is factual.

Give up.

[Shape up]

You are going to have to show me where WADA sanctioned or at least talked bad about USADA for breaking rules.

You are going to have to show me where the NSAC is taking action against USADA for breaking rules.

Just because one protocol wasn't followed to the letter doesn't mean there were no other correct and acceptable options that were followed.

So, if you are going to alleged rule breaking, it isn't enough for you to look up some protocol, I NEED A WADA OFFICIAL SAYING WHAT RULE WAS BROKEN AND WHO IS BEING PUNISHED FOR THE INFRACTION.

You can't do that, stop saying rules were broken because obviously they were not.

You are also going to have to show where Floyd was only "mildly dehydrated". A medical professional was called to his residence and administered an IV. You think that paramedic can just run around giving folks saline simply because they ask for it? Guess what? That paramedic has a boss, that boss is going to want to know what precipitated giving not one but 2 IVs.

A medical professional thought that Floyd was dehydrated enough to administer an IV instead of Gatorade or Pedialyte. WADA rules about what should be done when someone is mildly dehydrated are moot here.

Another poster (Ray* I believe) came in and spoke about Haye-Bellow and how a visit to a doctor days before created a furor and had folks calling for a postponement.

To think that news of Mayweather in the hospital at around 3pm the day before the fight WOULD NOT BE A CATASTROPHE OF BIBLICAL PROPORTIONS is just damned naive or ignorant.

It's all that would be on every spotschannel and a few cable news outlets as well.

500M on the line and you are saying he should have gone to a hospital.

Are you insane?

Dospumkin seems to have disappeared and tooli has taken his place, in that last post I was saying that you 2 *******s want usada to break the rules by letting fluid have an IV in his loungeroom BECAUSE of the media storm, now, ******ny you still haven't answer ****, home IV prohibited at ALL times without a PRIOR TUE, there was an alternative treatment available, the retro TUE WAS NOT MONITORED by WADA, which is a criteria that has to be met, how was it allowed you fluid guzzler

[travestyny]

the retro TUE WAS NOT MONITORED by WADA, which is a criteria that has to be met

LMAOOOO. BUZZ OFF BlTCH. YOU HAVE AS MUCH INTELLIGENCE AS A BAG OF DUST

Unless you answer:

If USADA broke WADA's rules, why weren't they sanctioned by WADA? You gonna keep ducking this???


Game over bltch. Go cry elsewhere. After what has happened to you here, no one takes you seriously. You're dismissed.

[ADP02]

Man, you are so ignorant when it comes to this subject.

I will give you an example so even you would understand!!!




Lance Armstrong's HT is about 42 but there is an acceptable range.




Lance Armstrong would use PEDs during his Tour de France and Giro D'Italia.

HT values can normally range from about 38 to 50 in males
BUT
for a given individual like Lance Armstrong, his range shouldn't fluctuate that drastically. Meaning that if his normal value is around 42 then a reading of 48 is NOT OK even though it may be OK for me because I usually come in at around that (my HT=47 the last time that I checked).

So to say, they look individually to see what is the expected acceptable range. You need multiple values usually to be sure that your results are not false positive. The more samples are tested the better.

So Lance would use various ways (EPO, blood transfusions.... ) to increase his HT values during the competition!!!

So if the LAB sees HT=48 for me, that would be fine. Lance's HT = 48 is NOT OK.

Of course there is more to it than that such as when you race, your values tend to decrease. So that is taken into account as well. Plus as I said, they check his values for the previous races where he was tested such as Giro D'Italia which is prior to the Tour de France. Also his values when he not training.... in which cannot happen for Floyd!


For Floyd, he only needs to be concerned about 5-7 weeks twice a year, sometimes once/year, sometimes none. For Floyd testing is not a 365 days a year thing. He just needs to practice getting it right during those weeks of training.

even if Floyd's norm is HT=42 when he doesn't sign to fight, Floyd can keep the HT closer to 47 while training and being tested.

What would the ABP score show? That Floyd's normal HT is similar to ADP02. It's NOT above 50 and it's in between 38-50 and it's what Floyd usually tests at. A bit more or less is fine too .....

BUT if there are spikes that are above the expected average then they are at the very least red flags to look out for. Well, as I kept telling you, ABP is checked for reasons such as EPO abuse and there are "thresholds".....


Now Travestyny will ....... DEFLECT in 3-2-1 .....



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LMAOOOO. YOU ****ING DUMMY. YOU ARE STILL GOING WITH THIS BULLSHLT THAT HE CHEATS NOT ONLY BEFORE CAMP, BUT ALL THROUGHOUT CAMP TO PASS THE ABP...????

SO ACTUALLY HE IS MORE SU****IOUS... IF HE STOPS CHEATING???
NOT ONLY DOES HE SEEMINGLY KNOW WHEN HIS LEVELS HAVE TO BE CHANGED...EXACTLY AND EXACTLY HOW MUCH TO CHANGE THEM....WHAT THE **** DOES HE DO FOR THE FINAL TESTS TAKEN AFTER THE FIGHT? HE GOES AND MANIPULATES HIS LEVELS IN THE BACK OF THE MGM GRANDE????

HE KEEPS HIS LEVELS AT AN ARTIFICIAL STATE AT ALL TIMES FOR 5-7 WEEKS, TWICE A YEAR, 24/7 TO PASS RANDOM DRUG TESTS????????????

LOG THE **** OUT!!! JESUS! YOU ARE REALLY DUMB!

Nope .... YOU ARE DUMB!!!


Other athletes who do not have the luxury that Floyd has of when testing STARTs and ENDs can DO something similar to what I stated .... BUT it's HARDER for them for several reasons:

a) They may be tested any time any day for 365 days. So it's not an easy task because they are not going to be using PEDs every day including their off season at the same dose and so on ....

b) They need to be always in range. OFF/In Season.

c) They can be taking PEDs while training, while in competition and need to be sure that the ABP is OK. Yet you are laughing .... because you read a comment from someone and think that is how everyone does it?

d) You say what you say but even a guy (first timer) who did a study on himself was successful during his time doing it when he sent his sample to a WADA approved lab. ABP results .... passed. As I showed you in the past.

e) I'm just stating how much easier it is for Floyd.

There is NOT just one scenario for a guy who is tested when HE WANTs .... there are multiple scenarios. Well, there are multiple scenarios no matter what BUT for Floyd, it's much easier to fool the testers. Floyd can use different tactics where others cannot be as flexible as FLoyd!!!


f) Others have made a mistake in the past even though they knew what to do but admitted their mistake. Floyd was in that type of position that day. So he delayed and delayed some more by using BANNED IVs for no reason since Floyd's excuses are so BS that you need to bring up other BS excuses BUT Floyd/Ellerbe are not in agreement with your BS excuses!


g) As stated, there is a risk for all athletes who are using PEDs . You are too ignorant so you laugh but that is just because you are too ignorant and have not checked out athletes who get caught for numerous reasons.

h) Lance's ABP scores spiked while doing the Tour de France. That meant that Lance did it even while racing yet you laugh? And of course, others do too!!!


i) You are making it sound like Floyd wouldn't do a certain scenario BUT like Lance Armstrong, it wasn't that Lance wanted to be tested at that point in time. It was a surprise for him ... but Lance would often have advance notice of 20-30 minutes, as per reports.


J) Not all PEDs act and react the same way! Also, athletes may be micro dosing and at times on multiple drugs that are hard to catch due to the dose and time they do it in the day. Is there a risk? Of course but only someone who doesn't understand this, laughs like you do .... that is being ignorant!



K) Even though Lance had help from top officials, his doctor, teammates, yes, there was still a paper trail and yes you are a DEFLECTOR of the TRUTH!!! You cannot admit to that!


L) Other athletes who can be tested 365 days a year are using the PED at a time that they know that they can be tested, such as a race. They do it knowing full well that they need to have their ABP scores within the acceptable"threshold" for their drug(s) of choice. Go laugh with your Mayweather Mafia friends!!!!



DEFLECTOR!!!! All you do is laugh but lets face it, you come back with ..... NOTHING!!!

But at least I read that your Mayweather Mafia posters agree with you and you agree with them! How nice!!!


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[travestyny]

Look here, moron!

So Lance would use various ways (EPO, blood transfusions.... ) to increase his HT values during the competition!!!

For Floyd, he only needs to be concerned about 5-7 weeks twice a year, sometimes once/year, sometimes none. For Floyd testing is not a 365 days a year thing. He just needs to practice getting it right during those weeks of training.

even if Floyd's norm is HT=42 when he doesn't sign to fight, Floyd can keep the HT closer to 47 while training and being tested.
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Congratulations. You've unlocked how to pass the ABP. This fool just said Floyd uses EPO and Blood Transfusions throughout all of his training camps since 2010, and apparently even on the day of the fights!!!!

Want to pass the ABP???? JUST CHEAT AS MUCH AS YOU CAN. CHEAT BEFORE TRAINING CAMP. CHEAT DURING TRAINING CAMP. CHEAT IN THE RING!!! DON'T WORRY...YOU ARE GUARANTEED TO PASS. FLOYD HAS BEEN DOING IT FOR YEARS!

Log the **** out!

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