Here's Where All The Floyd Cheat Theories Fail

[Shape up]

You're a liar, Ship out

And everyone can check that bullshyt you just posted against the real contract.

Right Here:

https://cdn2.vox-cdn.com/uploads/cho...Contract.0.pdf

Here's the WADA Code.

https://www.wada-ama.org/sites/defau...oping-code.pdf

I posted the code so folks can see exactly how Ship out is trying to spin things to better suit his feeble-assed arguments.

He is saying they are leaving things in the code out of the contract as if that is some sort of nefarious action.

Truth is, those things they left out are not needed in a professional boxing match when perhaps they would be needed in Olympic festivals or international competitions.

For example, Article 11 refers to teams when a boxing match is individuals.

Article 16 is about doping for animals competing in a sport.

Articles 18 and 19 deals with Education and Research respectively.

But Ship out's lying ass would have you believe that omission of these articles in the contract are some sort of smoking gun.

And the sorriest part is that even if he was 100% right instead of lying and 100% wrong, you'd STILL have to take a quantum leap in logic as to why WADA let USADA do this while the same year they suspended a signatory (RUSADA) for pulling the exact same stunts he is accusing USADA of.

Ship out's ******ity or willful ignorance has reached astonishing levels here.

Now, tell him to go print THAT SHYT IN BIG RED LETTERS.

so you admit they deleted parts of the code i see

[travestyny]

So was the fight for a WORLD TITLE or a national title, is pacquaio from the phillipines

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Do you have any idea of what WADA means by “International Level athlete”?

Just stop now. It’s getting dull owning you.

[travestyny]

so you admit they deleted parts of the code i see

Deleted? I’m pretty sure he wrote they don’t apply. Give up.

[Shape up]

23.2 Implementation of the Code
23.2.1 The Signatories shall implement applicable Code provisions through policies, statutes, rules or regulations according to their authority and within their relevant spheres of responsibility.
23.2.2 The following Articles as applicable to the scope of the anti-doping activity which the anti-doping organization performs must be implemented by Signatories without substantive change (allowing for any non-substantive changes to the language in order to refer to the organization’s name, sport, section numbers, etc.):
• Article 1 (De nition of Doping)
• Article 2 (Anti-Doping Rule Violations)
• Article 3 (Proof of Doping)
• Article 4.2.2 (Speci ed Substances)
• Article 4.3.3 (Wada’s Determination of the Prohibited list)
• Article 7.11 (Retirement from Sport)
• Article 9 (Automatic disquali cation of individual Results)
• Article 10 (Sanctions on Individuals)
• Article 11 (Consequences to Teams)
• Article 13 (Appeals) with the exception of 13.2.2, 13.6, and 13.7
• Article 15.1 (Recognition of Decisions)
• Article 17 (Statute of Limitations)
• Article 24 (Interpretation of the Code)
• Appendix 1 - De nitions
World Anti-Doping Code • 2015 121------- this for example, usada does not have to comply with any of these rules as written in the fight contract, so they said we will comply with article1-10 in the code dut then articles such as this one allows them to break them, is that easy enough for your feeble little mind to understand, or is it still too complicated

all of this was left out dumbsumsion, isnt this important to a boxing bout

[Shape up]

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WADA CODE:
Quote:
* 4.4.2 *An athlete who is not an International-level athlete should apply to his or her national anti-doping organization for a tue. if the national anti-doping organization denies the application, the athlete may appeal exclusively to the national-level appeal body described in Articles 13.2.2 and 13.2.3. 



13.2.2 *Appeals involving Other athletes or Other Persons in cases where Article 13.2.1 is not applicable, the decision may be appealed to an independent and impartial body in accordance with rules established by the national anti-doping organization. The rules for such appeal shall respect the following principles: 

* a timely hearing; 

* a fair and impartial hearing panel; 

* the right to be represented by counsel at the Person’s own expense; and 

* a timely, written, reasoned decision. 

Now check the contract, f@g:---------------here is where you posted rules about national level athletes, has nothing to do with this situation, this was a WORLD TITLE FIGHT, INTERNATIONAL LEVEL, so if usada didnt break WADA RULES, HOW CAN THEY REFUSE ANY APPEAL PROCESS, EASILY, THEY OMITTED HALF OF THE WADA CODE VIA THE CONTRACT JIM CAREYPOST 764 ******NY
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Originally Posted by Shape up View Post
So ******ny tell me how you think posting a rule for a national level athlete to appeal is in any way connected to the fluid and pacquaio fight which is international level, where all TUEs have the right to appeal to WADA
When did I post any rule about a national level athlete to appeal?

Just shut up you dumb f@g. And shut up with your tran***ual fantasy. You're dumb as bricks and you've already been murdered BY THE ****ING CONTRACT THAT YOU KEPT POSTING FROM.

And no, it's not international level, you idiot. Are they competing in the olympics for a country?

it's over you dumb bltch. Go suck a c@ck somewhere.

[koolkc107]

so you admit they deleted parts of the code i see

They didn't delete anything that Pacquiao and his lawyers didn't request.

The changes were requested by Pac, remember?

And of course, I explained that those parts in question were largely superfluous for a professional boxing match in any case.

We have argued point by point ad nauseum.

And frankly Ship-out, you and you butthurt cronies have lost every single time and it hasn't been close.

So, I need you or Splooge or anyone of you cretins to answer some very simple questions.

I have asked them at least twice now and none of you will go near it...and I know why and so do you.

You can't answer them because a truthful answer would make you have to face your numerous errors here.

RUSADA actually did the things with Russian athletes you are accusing USADA of doing with Floyd. They have been suspended by WADA since 2015, the same year the fight was held.

WHY HASN'T WADA GONE AFTER USADA?

The story was broken by Kevin Iole in May. I've posted the link to the article before. Here is part of what was written May 22:

Mayweather also applied for, and was given, a the****utic use exemption (TUE) for rehydration purposes after the May 1 weigh-in. He took two separate mixes. The first was a mixture of 250 ml of saline and multi-vitamins. The second was a 500 ml mixuture of saline and Vitamin C. He was urine tested both before and after taking the solutions.

Nevada rules permit the mixes that Mayweather took, but because USADA was overseeing the testing he applied for and was granted the TUE for them.

All tests came back negative.

https://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/boxin...182400390.html

WHY DID HAUSER SIT ON THIS FOR FOUR MONTHS?

WHY DIDN'T PAC AND ARUM SUE OR PETITION NSAC TO THROW OUT THE FIGHT RESULTS?

WHY DID ARUM SAY HE COULDN'T COMMENT IN MAY BECAUSE OF A NON-DISCLOSURE AGREEMENT, YET VIOLATED SUCH AN AGREEMENT- IF IT DID EXIST- BY SPEAKING IN SEPTEMBER?

These should not be hard to answer if you really think Floyd cheated.

And, be careful if and when you do try to answer these.

Then again, you already look like damned fools so my guess is that you will float some more nonsensical bullshyt...

[Shape up]

usada does impose the full wada code, idiot.

And if you had to look up substantive, you shouldn't be having this conversation. Substantive means more than that, you dope. And even if taken that way, it doesn't change the fact that the full wada code was enforced, you dope.

I already told you. Go find where the contract veers away from the wada code. You can't do it. The part you pointed out is followed, dummy.


It goes like this:

You say that usada isn't following wada's code.

Wada's code says the rule is that this information is up to usada:


Usada shows where the rules provided by them:

Contract:
Quote:
Mayweather and Pacquiao agree that sections 5, 9-13, 16, 17a, and 21 of the United States Anti-Doping Agency Protocol for Olympic and Paralympic Movement Testing shall constitute the procedural rules applicable to any Results Management Services provided hereunder.


you say usada broke wada's rules...by doing what wada's rules say. Lmao. Just give up. I'm tired of this. It's over.

and here you talk about the code and post the protocols section of the contract, which fluid ivayweather had an out of anyway, the contract stipulates if the protocols conflict with the contract then the contract will prevail

[travestyny]

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WADA CODE:
Quote:
* 4.4.2 *An athlete who is not an International-level athlete should apply to his or her national anti-doping organization for a tue. if the national anti-doping organization denies the application, the athlete may appeal exclusively to the national-level appeal body described in Articles 13.2.2 and 13.2.3. 



13.2.2 *Appeals involving Other athletes or Other Persons in cases where Article 13.2.1 is not applicable, the decision may be appealed to an independent and impartial body in accordance with rules established by the national anti-doping organization. The rules for such appeal shall respect the following principles: 

* a timely hearing; 

* a fair and impartial hearing panel; 

* the right to be represented by counsel at the Person’s own expense; and 

* a timely, written, reasoned decision. 

Now check the contract, f@g:---------------here is where you posted rules about national level athletes, has nothing to do with this situation, this was a WORLD TITLE FIGHT, INTERNATIONAL LEVEL, so if usada didnt break WADA RULES, HOW CAN THEY REFUSE ANY APPEAL PROCESS, EASILY, THEY OMITTED HALF OF THE WADA CODE VIA THE CONTRACT JIM CAREYPOST 764 ******NY
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Originally Posted by Shape up View Post
So ******ny tell me how you think posting a rule for a national level athlete to appeal is in any way connected to the fluid and pacquaio fight which is international level, where all TUEs have the right to appeal to WADA
When did I post any rule about a national level athlete to appeal?

Just shut up you dumb f@g. And shut up with your tran***ual fantasy. You're dumb as bricks and you've already been murdered BY THE ****ING CONTRACT THAT YOU KEPT POSTING FROM.

And no, it's not international level, you idiot. Are they competing in the olympics for a country?

it's over you dumb bltch. Go suck a c@ck somewhere.

Where does it say anything about a national level athlete, you dumb ****?

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[Shape up]

the code 23.2.2the following articles as applicable to the scope of the anti doping activity which the anti doping organization performs must be implemented by signatorieswithout substantive change

[Shape up]

They didn't delete anything that Pacquiao and his lawyers didn't request.

The changes were requested by Pac, remember?

And of course, I explained that those parts in question were largely superfluous for a professional boxing match in any case.

We have argued point by point ad nauseum.

And frankly Ship-out, you and you butthurt cronies have lost every single time and it hasn't been close.

So, I need you or Splooge or anyone of you cretins to answer some very simple questions.

I have asked them at least twice now and none of you will go near it...and I know why and so do you.

You can't answer them because a truthful answer would make you have to face your numerous errors here.

RUSADA actually did the things with Russian athletes you are accusing USADA of doing with Floyd. They have been suspended by WADA since 2015, the same year the fight was held.

WHY HASN'T WADA GONE AFTER USADA?

The story was broken by Kevin Iole in May. I've posted the link to the article before. Here is part of what was written May 22:

Mayweather also applied for, and was given, a the****utic use exemption (TUE) for rehydration purposes after the May 1 weigh-in. He took two separate mixes. The first was a mixture of 250 ml of saline and multi-vitamins. The second was a 500 ml mixuture of saline and Vitamin C. He was urine tested both before and after taking the solutions.

Nevada rules permit the mixes that Mayweather took, but because USADA was overseeing the testing he applied for and was granted the TUE for them.

All tests came back negative.

https://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/boxin...182400390.html

WHY DID HAUSER SIT ON THIS FOR FOUR MONTHS?

WHY DIDN'T PAC AND ARUM SUE OR PETITION NSAC TO THROW OUT THE FIGHT RESULTS?

WHY DID ARUM SAY HE COULDN'T COMMENT IN MAY BECAUSE OF A NON-DISCLOSURE AGREEMENT, YET VIOLATED SUCH AN AGREEMENT- IF IT DID EXIST- BY SPEAKING IN SEPTEMBER?

These should not be hard to answer if you really think Floyd cheated.

And, be careful if and when you do try to answer these.

Then again, you already look like damned fools so my guess is that you will float some more nonsensical bullshyt...

so now its pacquaios fault, IVayweather wanted the testing, his contract to buy usada