Comments Thread For: Kelly Pavlik: Today's Middleweights Aren't as Big as in My Era

[OmarRueben]

Kelly Pavlik is a disgraced drunken mess and average boxer

Who knows if Goofy drunk alcoholic Kelly Pavlik is sober enough to comment on anything concerning boxing. Pavlik ruined a nice career via booze. And as a a white guy in boxing Pavlik had it all his way. White guys are very much needed in boxing to survive. Pavlik let us all down.

[Thraxox]

Maaaan I miss that MW era of Pavlik, Taylor, Williams, Martinez, and Pirog. I think it all went downhill after Cotto "became" a MW champion, and thus began the era of blown-up LMWs looking to cash in amongst the few MWs (Golovkin) who stay at walking weight.

You mean draining MW's at LMW moving up to their natural weight? Dude Canelo is 5'9 that balloons to 175 pounds fight night. And we got Andrade, Charlo, standing at 6'0. If Lara moves up he is the only actual JMW, and even that is debatable as he is 5'9 1/2 that goes 165-166 fight night.

[THEFRESHBRAWLER]

Then you have middle weights like Canelo and ggg fighting b and c level welterweights lol only in this era. That would be equivalent to a ranked Pavlik facing Luis Collazo. And I don’t even think khan has even ever face a top welterweight either lol

[hectari]

Its weird because marvin hagler was a tiny middleweight, he is even shorter and smaller than ggg, and never weighed more than 168 walking around at 5 foot 8.

Look at the size of GGG head compared to Hagler, Hagler is probably closer to 5 foot 6 than 5 foot 8. But Hagler would be tiny compared to the Pavlik era of weight drain giants

[GhostofDempsey]

Why? If you can make the weight, you can make the weight. The more talent you squeeze into a division, the better it gets.

These days we're stuck waiting for guys from welter/jmw to move up. The 2nd/3rd best guy in the division, DJ, is on par with Miranda. Even the contenders aren't as good as they once were, I mean as "bad" as guys like Miranda/Green were they weren't getting rocked/dropped by journeymen caliber fighters like Lemieux/DJ, they were blowing them out. Geale also got DESTROYED by career jmw/welter Cotto, and Murray another elite contender also couldn't even beat a 35 year old severely past prime Abraham.

Jacobs would have killed Miranda and Abraham. Not even close. Don't try to elevate them just because Ward beat them.

There is a reason for weight classes. They are t meant to be manipulated by guys who don't have the balls to fight in their own weight class where they belong. That is how fighters get hurt or mismatches occur.

[hectari]

Jacobs would have killed Miranda and Abraham. Not even close. Don't try to elevate them just because Ward beat them.

There is a reason for weight classes. They are t meant to be manipulated by guys who don't have the balls to fight in their own weight class where they belong. That is how fighters get hurt or mismatches occur.

I think Danny Jacobs and Peter Kid Chocolate Quillin are the only huge 160 pounders right now, the other guys are bloated guys who cut down

[Cutthroat]

Jacobs is 6'1 you tard.

5'11 Quillin standing next to Jacobs. The g tards are the most deluded fan base in all of boxing.

[Thraxox]

5'11 Quillin standing next to Jacobs. The g tards are the most deluded fan base in all of boxing.

And 5'11 GGG standing next to Jacobs. Andre Ward fans are the most delusional fans in the world.

[Cutthroat]

And 5'11 GGG standing next to Jacobs. Andre Ward fans are the most delusional fans in the world.

ggg isn't 5'11.

Here is another picture of 6'0 Truax around an inch taller than DJ.

[Cutthroat]

Jacobs would have killed Miranda and Abraham. Not even close. Don't try to elevate them just because Ward beat them.

There is a reason for weight classes. They are t meant to be manipulated by guys who don't have the balls to fight in their own weight class where they belong. That is how fighters get hurt or mismatches occur.

The guy getting dropped by Mora, ran through by Pirog is going to kill Miranda and Abraham? Ok lmao. DJ was a joke on this forum, but suddenly after making ggg go life and death he's seen as a beast.

Did you even watch Jacobs-Truax? DJ was getting nailed by right hands, he's still got the same defensive flaws that got him dropped by Mora and stopped by Pirog.

Like I said, Murray, Geale, even the contenders aren't as good as they once were. You match up a prime Miranda vs the 35 year old that was still able to beat Murray's ass and that version of Abraham gets stopped.