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  • DrHouse579
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    #81
    Originally posted by mlac
    Yeah 'life and death' is going to the champions backyard at 21 years old in a massive step up in competition, beating him up, dropping him heavily and winning easily.

    You also claim a 32 year old world champion is still a prospect
    Yeah you are an imbecile
    And, to clarify the prospect thing.. Breidis has only been fighting for 8 years professionally.. experience-wise there are prospects out there (esp those with olympic pedigree) who are way ahead of him. And at 32, he's only going to improve so much if at all.

    A guy like that is in the top 3 or 4 of the division... yup CW is STACKED!!

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      #82
      Originally posted by DrHouse579
      LOL a 32 year old world champion who just fought his first southpaw... and CW > SMW? Dude just destroyed his own argument..
      Well, there we have it folks, Cruiserweight sucks because Breidis just fought his first southpaw

      I want some of what you're smoking sir

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        #83
        Originally posted by mlac
        Well, there we have it folks, Cruiserweight sucks because Breidis just fought his first southpaw

        I want some of what you're smoking sir
        Actually... yes! You get my point!

        Originally posted by DrHouse579
        A guy like that is in the top 3 or 4 of the division... yup CW is STACKED!!
        Just to spell it out for you: if you can start boxing at 24 with no amateur experience and go 22 fights on your way to a title at the weight class without fighting a southpaw.. the division IS WEAK AF

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          #84
          Originally posted by DrHouse579
          Actually... yes! You get my point!



          Just to spell it out for you: if you can start boxing at 24 with no amateur experience and go 22 fights on your way to a title at the weight class without fighting a southpaw.. the division IS WEAK AF
          Chris Eubank had no Amateur experience and he's about to win the super middleweight super series

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            #85
            Originally posted by mlac
            Chris Eubank had no Amateur experience and he's about to win the super middleweight super series
            Eubank Jr is actually pretty technically poor and doesn't have the best ring IQ (a result of a short amateur career). He's just got elite physical attributes you just don't see everyday. That can compensate surprisingly well for bad technique and IQ. The difference is Eubank Jr is improving every fight and is hitting his peak at 28.

            Breidis of course has Roy Jones Jr-level athleticism (LOL!) that overcomes his other deficiencies. And he used that athleticism to hug and spoil against a dude who was fighting his 2nd fight at CW..

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              #86
              Originally posted by DrHouse579
              Eubank Jr is actually pretty technically poor and doesn't have the best ring IQ (a result of a short amateur career). He's just got elite physical attributes you just don't see everyday. That can compensate surprisingly well for bad technique and IQ. The difference is Eubank Jr is improving every fight and is hitting his peak at 28.

              Breidis of course has Roy Jones Jr-level athleticism (LOL!) that overcomes his other deficiencies. And he used that athleticism to hug and spoil against a dude who was fighting his 2nd fight at CW..
              hugging and spoiling is what made andre ward great doe.

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                #87
                Originally posted by mlac
                hugging and spoiling is what made andre ward great doe.
                How did Andre Ward look against a guy moving down for him? A guy named Chad Dawson? Remember what happened to him? LOL

                I feel like I've said this before to you - a B level fighter poorly imitating the style of an A level fighter doesn't make that style or the A level fighter bad.. Breidis looked horrible trying that style because he is a limited fighter.

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                  #88
                  Originally posted by DrHouse579
                  How did Andre Ward look against a guy moving down for him? A guy named Chad Dawson? Remember what happened to him? LOL

                  I feel like I've said this before to you - a B level fighter poorly imitating the style of an A level fighter doesn't make that style or the A level fighter bad.. Breidis looked horrible trying that style because he is a limited fighter.
                  You can spell out the alphabet all you want pal. You have double standards to fighters, One spoils and clinches and you say wow what A level clinching potshotting and spoiling i just witnessed. tremendous.

                  Breidis does the exact same thing, and hes apparently not as skilled at it...perhaps if he threw a couple elbows and headbutts he'd be 'A' eh?

                  How did a zombiefied badly weight drained dawson look? ...like a badly weight drained zombie? whats your point Dr.

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                    #89
                    Originally posted by DrHouse579
                    I feel like I've said this before to you - a B level fighter poorly imitating the style of an A level fighter doesn't make that style or the A level fighter bad.. Breidis looked horrible trying that style because he is a limited fighter.
                    Do you realize that Perez was a cruiserweight for a long time before he moved up to HW? If you do, why you you keep mentioning it was only his second fight at the weight class when it's not true?

                    To be fair, that drained version of Dawson was in worse physical condition than Perez at CW. Because Perez is a natural cruiserweight

                    If he used clinches it doesn't mean he was trying to copy Ward's style, if anything, his style was resembling young Huck more. Any fighter who use clinches as a tactical advantage ain't trying to emulate Andre

                    You didn't notice a lot of stuff Briedis was doing, he's not as one dimensional as you might think

                    He was moving to the right side and completely neutralized Perez right hook as a result, and that right hook was Perez best weapon against Abdusalamov. That's just one example. He can adjust to opponents that's why his fight with Perez doesn't look like his previous fights
                    Last edited by g27region; 10-02-2017, 07:23 PM.

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                      #90
                      Originally posted by mlac
                      You can spell out the alphabet all you want pal. You have double standards to fighters, One spoils and clinches and you say wow what A level clinching potshotting and spoiling i just witnessed. tremendous.

                      Breidis does the exact same thing, and hes apparently not as skilled at it...perhaps if he threw a couple elbows and headbutts he'd be 'A' eh?

                      How did a zombiefied badly weight drained dawson look? ...like a badly weight drained zombie? whats your point Dr.
                      OK, then. By that logic I have to be a fan of both Adrien Broner and Floyd Mayweather? Since AB clearly tries emulate that counterpunching style with the shoulder roll, AB is automatically on Floyd's level, right? Style =/= skills, sir.

                      Am I wrong in saying Ward = A level and Breidis = B level? OK then what's the problem with me running through the alphabet?

                      Yeah, Perez wasn't drained but I'm making the point that Breidis should have looked much better against a guy coming into a new weight class than he did. Clinching and hugging isn't all that Ward does. He's primarily an inside fighter and that means he needs to wrestle and make it dirty at times to get position.

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