Comments Thread For: Stevenson's Promoter Reacts To Claims By Andre Ward's Coach

[SugarRaRobinson]

What's funny about this is I never even heard a VIABLE SUGGESTION, that Stevenson's camp was interested in fighting Ward after he finished off Kov the 2nd time.

Now I did hear, before the Kov/Ward fight that he was interested in fighting the winner. But after Ward came out on top in a salient way it was ALL CRICKETS !

[rickJen]

Not one of them is interested.
Let's move on and find new faces in the sport.
Seems everyone only wants to fight when they're subsidized.

[McNulty]

Are you trolling? Because this is what hating looks like. He was in a tournament where he was not a favorite. He beat several good fighters in that tournament. If he was smart and resolute enough to negotiate terms that benefit him, kudos to him.

Did you really bring up Direll?

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This man moved up and faced the boogeyman twice and you question his heart. You even nitpick his choice of promoters? Who does that? So many good fighters were under then Goosen-Tudor banner.

You got Silky Johnson beat.

I'm not talking about the Super 6 ****** so I snipped you're copy/pasted blathering like you're proving a point. Ward didn't want to fight Dirrell before or after the tournament because they were personal friends in real life. Get up to fùcking date peasant.

Of course he was the underdog in the Super 6 you pink maggot, he hadn't fought anybody and he was being mishandled by Goosen. You're talking like he should have been the favorite or something. Did you just land on Earth that year?

He didn't beat several good opponents in that tournament --- there were a few and Ward only fought one of them which was Kessler. Ward, Dirrell, Taylor, and Kessler was the talent. The rest were b-level. So get your head out of the sand and quit pretending Ward beat all the good fighters in the tournament.

What boogeyman lmao --- Kovaquit? He never fought anybody. Beat old man Hopkins who was bound to lose for being old as fùck and a blown up Pascal who got run out of 168 by b-level Frock? Not only did he beat Pascal by TKO the 1st time, but they got him to fight him again. What the fùck is that noise? Frock lost to Peter Manfredo Jr. in the Ams for fùcks sake. Only reason he beat Dirrell in the S6 was home cooking and fighting dirty as fùck. Taylor had him done and for some reason forgot to hold when he got hurt which he payed the price for.

Yea I nitpick his promoter, a boxing aficionado does that. RJJ fùcked his career up doing that crap too and I'm RJJ's biggest fan. Who says I can't critique a fighters choice in promoter? Are you shooting meth dude?

[BoxingTrav]

I'm not talking about the Super 6 ****** so I snipped you're copy/pasted blathering like you're proving a point. Ward didn't want to fight Dirrell before or after the tournament because they were personal friends in real life. Get up to fùcking date peasant.

Of course he was the underdog in the Super 6 you pink maggot, he hadn't fought anybody and he was being mishandled by Goosen. You're talking like he should have been the favorite or something. Did you just land on Earth that year?

He didn't beat several good opponents in that tournament --- there were a few and Ward only fought one of them which was Kessler. Ward, Dirrell, Taylor, and Kessler was the talent. The rest were b-level. So get your head out of the sand and quit pretending Ward beat all the good fighters in the tournament.

What boogeyman lmao --- Kovaquit? He never fought anybody. Beat old man Hopkins who was bound to lose for being old as fùck and a blown up Pascal who got run out of 168 by b-level Frock? Not only did he beat Pascal by TKO the 1st time, but they got him to fight him again. What the fùck is that noise? Frock lost to Peter Manfredo Jr. in the Ams for fùcks sake. Only reason he beat Dirrell in the S6 was home cooking and fighting dirty as fùck. Taylor had him done and for some reason forgot to hold when he got hurt which he payed the price for.

Yea I nitpick his promoter, a boxing aficionado does that. RJJ fùcked his career up doing that crap too and I'm RJJ's biggest fan. Who says I can't critique a fighters choice in promoter? Are you shooting meth dude?

Lol @ Pink Maggot. Hilarious. So you in your previous post said that Dirrell was too much of a challenge (Super Six Era). Now you're saying he didn't want to fight him because of their friendship. Which one is it?

As far as the Super Six Tournament goes you are once again either trolling or you must have forgotten who were the favorites in the tourney. Then Unbeaten Arthur Abraham and Once beaten Mikkel Kessler were the favorites to win. Froch was unbeaten at the time and seemed to be the favorite after the top two. Jermain Taylor was the one that no one expected to win. Coming off that Heartbreaking Knockout loss to Froch, he wasn't expected to last. Andre beat the 3 favorites my friend as the underdog heading in to the tournament.

Kovalev was the boogeyman. Notice I said Boogeyman. I didn't say all time great, I said Boogeyman. One of these guys that people think fighters are afraid to fight. Andre stepped up and go the job done.

As far as promoters go, I don't get caught up into that stuff. All promoters are dirty. They ride the wave when you're hot.

[McNulty]

Lol @ Pink Maggot. Hilarious. So you in your previous post said that Dirrell was too much of a challenge (Super Six Era). Now you're saying he didn't want to fight him because of their friendship. Which one is it?

As far as the Super Six Tournament goes you are once again either trolling or you must have forgotten who were the favorites in the tourney. Then Unbeaten Arthur Abraham and Once beaten Mikkel Kessler were the favorites to win. Froch was unbeaten at the time and seemed to be the favorite after the top two. Jermain Taylor was the one that no one expected to win. Coming off that Heartbreaking Knockout loss to Froch, he wasn't expected to last. Andre beat the 3 favorites my friend as the underdog heading in to the tournament.

Kovalev was the boogeyman. Notice I said Boogeyman. I didn't say all time great, I said Boogeyman. One of these guys that people think fighters are afraid to fight. Andre stepped up and go the job done.

As far as promoters go, I don't get caught up into that stuff. All promoters are dirty. They ride the wave when you're hot.

I mentioned that era because Dirrll was a threat THEN as compared to NOW. Capice?

I don't care who the fùcking favorites were. Favorites are subjective in a non-betting world and in Vegas the favorites are dictated by gamblers. If a lot of money is coming in on Abraham, he's the favorite.

I know who the pundits picked and thats because of obvious reasons. Taylor has 3 big losses right before the tournament. Dirrell and Ward were unknowns and the only real quasi-established fighters were Abraham and Kessler.

Noe of that matters as I said before so quit bringing it up.

Kovaquit was never a boogeyman and yea I heard you. You keep repeating yourself like a fùcking parakeet. I heard!

Ward cried like a fùcking baby before fighting Kovaquit the first time. He really was a bítch about it and made such a big deal. Being a Ward fan for me was a love/hate relationship. Cats can slurp on his díck all they like, but don't get amnesia.

[BoxingTrav]

I mentioned that era because Dirrll was a threat THEN as compared to NOW. Capice?

I don't care who the fùcking favorites were. Favorites are subjective in a non-betting world and in Vegas the favorites are dictated by gamblers. If a lot of money is coming in on Abraham, he's the favorite.

I know who the pundits picked and thats because of obvious reasons. Taylor has 3 big losses right before the tournament. Dirrell and Ward were unknowns and the only real quasi-established fighters were Abraham and Kessler.

Noe of that matters as I said before so quit bringing it up.

Kovaquit was never a boogeyman and yea I heard you. You keep repeating yourself like a fùcking parakeet. I heard!

Ward cried like a fùcking baby before fighting Kovaquit the first time. He really was a bítch about it and made such a big deal. Being a Ward fan for me was a love/hate relationship. Cats can slurp on his díck all they like, but don't get amnesia.

Fact is that he fought world class competition and beat them. I'm not the biggest Andre Ward fan but I don't let that get in the way of me giving him his props.

It's funny you said don't have amnesia yet you want to forget his accomplishments. And also you claimed Kovalev was not a boogeyman, well he was and he was highly ranked P4P and was view as THE Lightheavyweight champ despite not being lineal.

You seem to get caught up on silliness and sidebar stuff instead of what happens in the fight. Andre Ward proved himself in the ring. He got off the canvas and made that first fight with Kovalev close enough to sneak out a decision and iced Sergey in the rematch. That tells me more about him that stating that he "cried like a fùcking baby before fighting Kovaquit the first time".

The ring reveals much about character of folks, that's why this is my favorite sport.

[kej718]

uhh you dont know what you are even saying. all the terms were already agreed upon for the rematch. it was ward who refused to honor them and was willing to retire instead. kovalev's team wanted the fight so badly they gave him the entire guaranteed purse for the fight(plus his promoters subsidy) while kovalev only got portions of the ppv and live gate. the one being tough was clearly ward.

I'm not just talking about the Ward fight. What about Kovalev being Stevensons mandatory and getting a 50/50 split and still not going to the purse bid twice?
What about Beterbiev vs Barrera?

Duva is trash. She has had her fighters fighting for free in the past (Kovalev being one of them). Why would anyone want to do business with someone like that. Lastly she had no choice but to take what was offered to her because neither fighter was much of a draw, and Rocnation was the one that went out of pocket to make the fight happen.

If it was another promoter we would have had all the big fights already.

[McNulty]

Fact is that he fought world class competition and beat them. I'm not the biggest Andre Ward fan but I don't let that get in the way of me giving him his props.

It's funny you said don't have amnesia yet you want to forget his accomplishments. And also you claimed Kovalev was not a boogeyman, well he was and he was highly ranked P4P and was view as THE Lightheavyweight champ despite not being lineal.

You seem to get caught up on silliness and sidebar stuff instead of what happens in the fight. Andre Ward proved himself in the ring. He got off the canvas and made that first fight with Kovalev close enough to sneak out a decision and iced Sergey in the rematch. That tells me more about him that stating that he "cried like a fùcking baby before fighting Kovaquit the first time".

The ring reveals much about character of folks, that's why this is my favorite sport.

He did fight world class opposition and beat them --- FIGHTING DIRTY AS FÙCK. You are correct.

Fùck lineal and fùck P4P, Kovalev was untested. If you think otherwise you should get into macramé.

Sidebar stuff? You're a fúcking twit. Quit sniffing my jockstrap before I kick your **** in the dirt you peasant.

[BoxingTrav]

He did fight world class opposition and beat them --- FIGHTING DIRTY AS FÙCK. You are correct.

Fùck lineal and fùck P4P, Kovalev was untested. If you think otherwise you should get into macramé.

Sidebar stuff? You're a fúcking twit. Quit sniffing my jockstrap before I kick your **** in the dirt you peasant.

Boxing is not a gentleman's game. It can get dirty. If you know Andre Ward fights dirty, you have to be prepared for that and handle him accordingly. If you can't adjust you lose. Although Andre incorporates questionable tactics at times, he's also technical, strong and adaptable. He's not the most physically gifted but he certainly gets the most out of his ability.

While Kovalev did not have a resume at light heavy as Andre had a Super Middle he was not untested, he was recognized as the Light Heavy champion.

The sidebar stuff, like instead of talking about fights, strategy, you nitpick about promoters, soap opera stuff, kind of stuff maybe you shouldn't focus on.

[McNulty]

Boxing is not a gentleman's game. It can get dirty. If you know Andre Ward fights dirty, you have to be prepared for that and handle him accordingly. If you can't adjust you lose. Although Andre incorporates questionable tactics at times, he's also technical, strong and adaptable. He's not the most physically gifted but he certainly gets the most out of his ability.

While Kovalev did not have a resume at light heavy as Andre had a Super Middle he was not untested, he was recognized as the Light Heavy champion.

The sidebar stuff, like instead of talking about fights, strategy, you nitpick about promoters, soap opera stuff, kind of stuff maybe you shouldn't focus on.

Wow look at you defending a ditry fighter. You should be ashamed of yourself.

Anybody can be champion if positioned properly and a lot of guys win vacant titles, just like when Kovaquit won the vacant WBA-NABA USA Light Heavyweight title. He didn't beat a champ. Grabbed a belt of Cleverly who is a bum and beat a 50 year-old man that was pro for 26 years. Kovaquit was 5 years old when Hopkins turned pro lol. I guess you could call him a champ, but imo more like a untested basic chump.

Strategy? Kovalev is garbage. He throws the same combo, has no standalone left hook, and doesn't even know basics like how to cut off the ring. Stay away from his right hand and you got him beat.