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    #51
    Originally posted by travestyny
    Oh, really now?

    FREDDIE ROACH: WE'LL FIGHT MARTINEZ AT 150!!!




    I gave you an interview with Manny saying, "Yes, I will fight Sergio Martinez at 150lbs."



    Not the point. The point is you are saying one ducked and the other didn't. You are having a hard time justifying that being that your argument is really based on weight, and they are the same size. You're saying Mayweather, who never weighed in more than 151 and rehydrated to LESS than that, should be forced to fight bigger guys because he did it 4 times, but not Manny who on fight night is the same size as Mayweahter because he did it only once. The amount of times they fought there matters not. How much will they weigh on fight night versus Sergio? ABOUT THE SAME. So your double standard is exposed.



    You're still trying to play internet doctor? How was Floyd dehydrated for the Mosley fight? You never answered. Apparently around the time of the Mosley fight, he was fluctuating in weight a whole lot, right? LMAO



    Shut the **** up, bltch. Only one of us answers every single question. And that's not you, you piece of shlt.



    Sergio Martinez is naturally 15lbs bigger than Floyd Mayweather at least. You are saying that you believe Mayweather can duck a guy that is 15lbs heavier.

    No, it's not possible.

    And here is the point: If you say it is possible, then that means Manny Pacquiao ducked him too, because Manny Pacquaio rehydrates to 151 and Sergio Martinez rehydrates to 166.



    So what's good for the goose is good for the gander, right? Or in this case, what's good for the goose is good for the DUCK, right?


    My turn! Don't duck this, DEFLECTOR!


    Explain why one guy being faced with a 15lb heavier guy is ducking, while the other guy being faced with a 15lb heavier guy is not ducking. I'll wait, DEFLECTOR.



    Pacquiao knew that Sergio Martinez would have caused big time problems for Pacquiao and more than likely a loss ... Pac and his daddy Roach and his promotor said Manny is not afraid of facing Sergio at 150lbs. Now you are saying its not the case?

    NOPE: You are called the DEFLECTOR for a reason. I cannot beat you at your DEFLECTING game.



    Go back to that interview:

    Roach at 2:30 mark

    Roach brings this up:
    "The thing is that my guy (Manny Pacquiao) walks around at 138lbs!!!!" Oooops!!!

    So what were you saying by head to head with Floyd Mayweather? Floyd said he walks around 10 to 12lbs more and even more than that when he "retired". Manny had to bulk up back then to get to those weights but it was at a disadvantage (sluggish vs size).

    --------------------------

    The thing is that Roach and company know from the Margarito fight that fights above 147+ would take a toll on Manny. Even some 147lbs fighters are too big ....

    Roach was asked if Martinez wants to go down to 154 then what would Roach say?

    "If Martinez comes down to 147 why not."

    30 sec mark







    Even Manny said, come down to 147:

    "I can fight Martinez at 147 but at 154 it's too big for me!!!"




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    Either you never trained or did any sports or you are just being a troll .....

    When I train, I can easily lose 7lbs+ and NOT need those things called BANNED IV bags!!! Drink plenty of fluids, rest and eat .... BUT Floyd was NOT training to lose 7lb+ at that point in time so no reason to require

    AGAIN, Floyd was NOT doing no hard training PLUS he said that he made weight EASILY when asked. Floyd in fact boasted just after getting the BANNED IV that Floyd walks around 150, 148 ... and we know that he weighed close to weigh-in weight 1 week out, 2 weeks out and even 30 days out!!!

    Given the above facts, there was no reason to dehydrate extremely and Floyd in fact said that he was going to be relaxing in his FINAL days but that is a given as doing hard workouts the day before a fight would be counter-productive.


    BUT ....
    that could have happened when Floyd trained for Mosley and what can occur in anyone's training camp. They train hard and get dehydrated. That is normal

    BUT ....
    its not normal to give blood 10 days out, urine days out and relaxing and admitting to making weight easily THEN having loads of time to drink adequately, as we ALL WITNESSED and come back with those BS excuses!!!!

    One must be a moron to think that Floyd was severely dehydrated. Do you know what that means? It does not mean someone who weighs relatively the same like Floyd's situation while blaming it on what he said!!! NOPE!!!

    --------------------------

    Floyd was ducking because he fought at that weight 4 times ..... and those fights came BEFORE, DURING and AFTER the calling out by Sergio Martinez .... and against fighters that were big.

    Once Sergio Martinez calls Floyd out, only then Floyd is no longer a 154 title holder even though he was BEFORE, DURING and AFTER the calling out by Sergio Martinez!!!!


    Manny Pacquiao: Sorry but we BOTH agreed that is nonsense. Manny only fought once at above 147+ and it took a toll on his body. As I said, the fights are tempting but when the talk becomes serious, it always came down to size .... they were just too big for Manny in their opinion.

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    It's not about being afraid. Here are comments on why it's a concern for Manny. He was too small and it can take a toll on his style of fighting.

    Here is Arum saying, OK to 150 but the problem is when they take into consideration Sergio Martinez's rehydrated fight night weight. They did it once and they admitted it's not good for Manny to go beyond 147+. Here is discussing a possible fight with Sergio Martinex at 150 ... Arum said its possible BUT .....

    "“Here is the problem with Martinez. Let me tell you the problem with Martinez. Martinez says ‘I’ll fight him at 150,’ but that’s bullsh**. That means he’ll dehydrate until the afternoon of the weigh-in and come to the ring at 175, which he’s done before. What I say is, if you really want to fight Manny Pacquiao – I have a simple way to do it. You said 150, you will fight at 150, then let’s go to a commission, and not necessarily this [Las Vegas] commission….maybe New York, maybe Texas, wherever. And say ‘both fighters want to do the fight and they want to go back to the old days and we’ll weigh in on the day of the fight, at 150. If he wants to do that, we can start talking,” Arum said."

    "After last year’s fight with Antonio Margarito, at 150, Arum says Pacquiao and his team made a decision to avoid taking fights above the welterweight limit.

    Pacquiao, who tried to bulk up for Margarito, started dropping weight a few days before the fight because the added bulk was making him sluggish in the gym. Pacquiao weighed in at 144-pounds. During the fight, Margarito’s size became a factor when he trapped Pacquiao against the ropes and hurt him badly to the body.

    “He was hurting for a month after that fight. We realized that he can’t continue to fight all of these bigger guys,” Arum said.



    and I provided you another post with Manny being interviewed saying they are too big while bringing up Margarito!!!


    Manny: We both agreed .... so there is nothing left to say


    FLOYD: too many fights at 154 and has them belts to prove it, right? FLOYD DUCKED BIG TIME!!!! You Floyd fans wanted to see Floyd go to 160 to fight Cotto

    but Sergio Martinez at 150-154 was too big? LOL!!!


    DUCK SEASON!!!!


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      #52
      Originally posted by ADP02
      NOPE: You are called the DEFLECTOR for a reason. I cannot beat you at your DEFLECTING game.



      Go back to that interview:

      Roach at 2:30 mark

      Roach brings this up:
      "The thing is that my guy (Manny Pacquiao) walks around at 138lbs!!!!" Oooops!!!

      So what were you saying by head to head with Floyd Mayweather? Floyd said he walks around 10 to 12lbs more and even more than that when he "retired". Manny had to bulk up back then to get to those weights but it was at a disadvantage (sluggish vs size).

      --------------------------

      The thing is that Roach and company know from the Margarito fight that fights above 147+ would take a toll on Manny. Even some 147lbs fighters are too big ....

      Roach was asked if Martinez wants to go down to 154 then what would Roach say?

      "If Martinez comes down to 147 why not."

      30 sec mark







      Even Manny said, come down to 147:

      "I can fight Martinez at 147 but at 154 it's too big for me!!!"




      -------------------

      Either you never trained or did any sports or you are just being a troll .....

      When I train, I can easily lose 7lbs+ and NOT need those things called BANNED IV bags!!! Drink plenty of fluids, rest and eat .... BUT Floyd was NOT training to lose 7lb+ at that point in time so no reason to require

      AGAIN, Floyd was NOT doing no hard training PLUS he said that he made weight EASILY when asked. Floyd in fact boasted just after getting the BANNED IV that Floyd walks around 150, 148 ... and we know that he weighed close to weigh-in weight 1 week out, 2 weeks out and even 30 days out!!!

      Given the above facts, there was no reason to dehydrate extremely and Floyd in fact said that he was going to be relaxing in his FINAL days but that is a given as doing hard workouts the day before a fight would be counter-productive.


      BUT ....
      that could have happened when Floyd trained for Mosley and what can occur in anyone's training camp. They train hard and get dehydrated. That is normal

      BUT ....
      its not normal to give blood 10 days out, urine days out and relaxing and admitting to making weight easily THEN having loads of time to drink adequately, as we ALL WITNESSED and come back with those BS excuses!!!!

      One must be a moron to think that Floyd was severely dehydrated. Do you know what that means? It does not mean someone who weighs relatively the same like Floyd's situation while blaming it on what he said!!! NOPE!!!

      --------------------------

      Floyd was ducking because he fought at that weight 4 times ..... and those fights came BEFORE, DURING and AFTER the calling out by Sergio Martinez .... and against fighters that were big.

      Once Sergio Martinez calls Floyd out, only then Floyd is no longer a 154 title holder even though he was BEFORE, DURING and AFTER the calling out by Sergio Martinez!!!!


      Manny Pacquiao: Sorry but we BOTH agreed that is nonsense. Manny only fought once at above 147+ and it took a toll on his body. As I said, the fights are tempting but when the talk becomes serious, it always came down to size .... they were just too big for Manny in their opinion.

      ------------

      It's not about being afraid. Here are comments on why it's a concern for Manny. He was too small and it can take a toll on his style of fighting.

      Here is Arum saying, OK to 150 but the problem is when they take into consideration Sergio Martinez's rehydrated fight night weight. They did it once and they admitted it's not good for Manny to go beyond 147+. Here is discussing a possible fight with Sergio Martinex at 150 ... Arum said its possible BUT .....

      "“Here is the problem with Martinez. Let me tell you the problem with Martinez. Martinez says ‘I’ll fight him at 150,’ but that’s bullsh**. That means he’ll dehydrate until the afternoon of the weigh-in and come to the ring at 175, which he’s done before. What I say is, if you really want to fight Manny Pacquiao – I have a simple way to do it. You said 150, you will fight at 150, then let’s go to a commission, and not necessarily this [Las Vegas] commission….maybe New York, maybe Texas, wherever. And say ‘both fighters want to do the fight and they want to go back to the old days and we’ll weigh in on the day of the fight, at 150. If he wants to do that, we can start talking,” Arum said."

      "After last year’s fight with Antonio Margarito, at 150, Arum says Pacquiao and his team made a decision to avoid taking fights above the welterweight limit.

      Pacquiao, who tried to bulk up for Margarito, started dropping weight a few days before the fight because the added bulk was making him sluggish in the gym. Pacquiao weighed in at 144-pounds. During the fight, Margarito’s size became a factor when he trapped Pacquiao against the ropes and hurt him badly to the body.

      “He was hurting for a month after that fight. We realized that he can’t continue to fight all of these bigger guys,” Arum said.



      and I provided you another post with Manny being interviewed saying they are too big while bringing up Margarito!!!


      Manny: We both agreed .... so there is nothing left to say


      FLOYD: too many fights at 154 and has them belts to prove it, right? FLOYD DUCKED BIG TIME!!!! You Floyd fans wanted to see Floyd go to 160 to fight Cotto

      but Sergio Martinez at 150-154 was too big? LOL!!!


      DUCK SEASON!!!!


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      .

      This is very simple. You writing essays to deflect isn't going to help you.


      Is Floyd Mayweather a 154lb fighter?

      If yes, then why not Pacquaio? I've already proven that Pacquaio rehydrates to the same weight as Mayweather. Do you disagree? Do I have to post this information again?


      Your argument is that Pacquaio is too small. Yet Floyd Mayweahther, at the same weight, is not.

      Explain. That's all I'm asking. Why is one too small and the other not when they both rehydrate to about the same size, which has been proven.



      As for your Mosley BS, again, you have no idea if Floyd had chronic dehydration or was running before the match. I do recall you posting a video of him before the fight saying it's time to rest his legs. Stop playing internet medic.

      Now please answer and stop ducking. DO THEY REHYDRATE TO THE SAME WEIGHT, AND IF SO, WHY IS ONE SEEN AS TOO SMALL AND THE OTHER NOT?

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        #53
        Originally posted by ADP02
        [B][I]
        Go back to that interview:

        Roach at 2:30 mark

        Roach brings this up:
        "The thing is that my guy (Manny Pacquiao) walks around at 138lbs!!!!" Oooops!!!
        .

        Oh really? You bought that? Now let's see if you can use some common sense.

        If Manny walks around at 138, how the **** does he rehydrate to 148 for Margarito?

        Earlier tonight Pacquiao weighed in on the HBO scales at 148 pounds while Margarito rehydrated to 165 pounds.
        And you're clearly ducking that all: Roach, Arum, and Pacquiao said YES to fighting Sergio at 150.


        As soon as he accepted, they said no.


        Isn't that a fact??????

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          #54
          Originally posted by ADP02
          Go back to that interview:

          Roach at 2:30 mark

          Roach brings this up:
          "The thing is that my guy (Manny Pacquiao) walks around at 138lbs!!!!" Oooops!!!

          .

          One more for you:

          Manny Pacquiao is walking around at 153 pounds and is in no hurry to kick off training for his Nov. 14 fight with Miguel Cotto.

          Are you capable of admitting that you are WRONG???

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            #55
            Originally posted by travestyny
            This is very simple. You writing essays to deflect isn't going to help you.


            Is Floyd Mayweather a 154lb fighter?

            If yes, then why not Pacquaio? I've already proven that Pacquaio rehydrates to the same weight as Mayweather. Do you disagree? Do I have to post this information again?


            Your argument is that Pacquaio is too small. Yet Floyd Mayweahther, at the same weight, is not.

            Explain. That's all I'm asking. Why is one too small and the other not when they both rehydrate to about the same size, which has been proven.



            As for your Mosley BS, again, you have no idea if Floyd had chronic dehydration or was running before the match. I do recall you posting a video of him before the fight saying it's time to rest his legs. Stop playing internet medic.

            Now please answer and stop ducking. DO THEY REHYDRATE TO THE SAME WEIGHT, AND IF SO, WHY IS ONE SEEN AS TOO SMALL AND THE OTHER NOT?
            New way of DEFLECTING for your. Say that I wrote too much!!!


            WHY not Manny:
            For one:
            "After last year’s fight with Antonio Margarito, at 150, Arum says Pacquiao and his team made a decision to avoid taking fights above the welterweight limit. "

            Secondly:
            Manny didn't go back up over 147. Floyd did ONCE then AGAIN and AGAIN and AGAIN.

            Third:
            Which is basically point #1. Manny's team made a statement and kept it in that Manny never fought above 147 because he is too small.

            Floyd never made those type of statements and in fact said the opposite. Skills wins fights not weight. Floyd said it, Uncle Roger said it and Floyd Sr. Floyd Jr said perhaps if someone jumps from 147 to 168 it may impact ... but 150 to 154 is a weight where Floyd fought 4 TIMES!!!!!


            Fourth:
            You agree that Manny didn't duck.
            His team said Manny is too small as the Margarito fight affected him for a good month.
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            - Roach said that Manny's walking weight was 138lbs and needed to bulk up ......
            - Floyd said his walking weight is 150, 148 and was higher during his retirement.
            - Manny was getting sluggish as his weight went up during his training camp for the Margarito fight and settled at 144.
            - Floyd didn't even try to make 144 against Juan Marquez!!!
            - Manny made 143ish against Algieri and Marquez 3 and they said he could probably fight at 140. Floyd wouldn't be able to. Floyd would need a truck load of BANNED IV bags!!!!




            MOSLEY: No, your foolish talk is what is BS.

            Chronic dehydration as far as athletes are concerned is when you talk about someone who doesn't know how to rehydrate properly not an illness!!! For example, young naive 15 year olds who start training camp and do not know how to rehydrate properly so they come back the next day under rehydrated.

            THAT IS NOT FLOYD MAYWEATHER!!!!!

            Floyd has LOADs of MONEY and can hire Dr Alex Ariza who we know monitors you closely and takes stats!!!

            Secondly, look at Floyd's weight over 30 days. ROCK SOLID STABLE and pretty much at his normal walking weight. You cannot make someone that stable if you tried!!!! SO STOP THE NONSENSE!!!!




            Floyd fought 4 times at 154.
            Not only did he fight 4 times at 154 but he got and held titles after fighting 3 of them. So to say, 3 of 4 opponents held titles.

            This occurred BEFORE, DURING and AFTER being called out by Martinez. Martinez would more than likely have gone down to 150 as per his comments.


            So YES, FLOYD DUCKED. Floyd didn't even try to CW Martinez. Too risky!!!



            QUESTION TO THE DEFLECTOR:
            I say its a DUCK for Floyd.

            For you, was it a DUCK for Floyd at 154?

            For you, was it a DUCK for Floyd for not even accepting the fight at CW of 153, 152, 151 .... not even 150????


            This thread is a discussion against 160lbs Sergio Martinez (some Floyd fans say Floyd wins) yet you think we will buy your BS that not even 150-154 is an acceptable fight?


            Floyd's face and expression explains it all.

            Check out Before being asked the question, seconds before, and after...... GOLD!!!





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              #56
              Originally posted by ADP02
              New way of DEFLECTING for your. Say that I wrote too much!!!


              WHY not Manny:
              For one:
              "After last year’s fight with Antonio Margarito, at 150, Arum says Pacquiao and his team made a decision to avoid taking fights above the welterweight limit. "
              THIS IS FALSE. I ALREADY SHOWED YOU THAT MANNY SAID HE WOULD FIGHT SERGIO AT 150. YOU KEEP DUCKING THIS. HE SAID IT, ARUM SAID IT, AND ROACH SAID IT. AM I LYING????


              Originally posted by ADP02
              Secondly:
              Manny didn't go back up over 147. Floyd did ONCE then AGAIN and AGAIN and AGAIN.
              What's your point? Don't they both rehydrate to about the same weight? THE ONLY THING YOU ARE PROVING IS THAT MAYWEATHER IS WILLING TO FIGHT BIGGER GUYS AND PACQUIAO IS NOT. If anything, that means you are praising Mayweather

              Originally posted by ADP02
              Third:
              Which is basically point #1. Manny's team made a statement and kept it in that Manny never fought above 147 because he is too small.
              DUDE, ONCE AGAIN, EVERYONE INVOLVED SAID THEY WOULD FIGHT SERGIO AT 150 UNTIL HE AGREED. IS THAT THE TRUTH OR A LIE???

              Originally posted by ADP02
              Floyd never made those type of statements and in fact said the opposite. Skills wins fights not weight. Floyd said it, Uncle Roger said it and Floyd Sr. Floyd Jr said perhaps if someone jumps from 147 to 168 it may impact ... but 150 to 154 is a weight where Floyd fought 4 TIMES!!!!!
              Great!!!!! Then Manny Pacquiao said he would fight at 150. So did Roach. So did Arum. The question is, why aren't you willing to hold him to that? Oh, that's right, because he really lost to Marquez their 3rd fight. That was the dumbest EXCUSE ever and you know it.

              Originally posted by ADP02
              Fourth:
              You agree that Manny didn't duck.
              His team said Manny is too small as the Margarito fight affected him for a good month.
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              I don't believe he ducked. But if he is too small, Floyd is too small. They are the same weight. The fact that you are unwilling to understand and accept this shows that you are a butthurt, hating coward. Again, all you are showing is that of two guys that weigh the same, one is willing to fight more bigger guys than the other one. THAT'S IT!

              Originally posted by ADP02
              - Roach said that Manny's walking weight was 138lbs and needed to bulk up ......
              - Floyd said his walking weight is 150, 148 and was higher during his retirement.
              - Manny was getting sluggish as his weight went up during his training camp for the Margarito fight and settled at 144.
              - Floyd didn't even try to make 144 against Juan Marquez!!!
              - Manny made 143ish against Algieri and Marquez 3 and they said he could probably fight at 140. Floyd wouldn't be able to. Floyd would need a truck load of BANNED IV bags!!!!
              SETTLED AT 144? HE REHYDRATED TO 148


              Originally posted by ADP02
              MOSLEY: No, your foolish talk is what is BS.

              Chronic dehydration as far as athletes are concerned is when you talk about someone who doesn't know how to rehydrate properly not an illness!!! For example, young naive 15 year olds who start training camp and do not know how to rehydrate properly so they come back the next day under rehydrated.

              THAT IS NOT FLOYD MAYWEATHER!!!!!
              That makes absolutely no sense. Then he wouldn't have been dehydrated for the Mosley fight, idiot.

              Originally posted by ADP02
              Floyd has LOADs of MONEY and can hire Dr Alex Ariza who we know monitors you closely and takes stats!!!

              Secondly, look at Floyd's weight over 30 days. ROCK SOLID STABLE and pretty much at his normal walking weight. You cannot make someone that stable if you tried!!!! SO STOP THE NONSENSE!!!!
              Then how was he dehydrated for the Mosley fight? LMAO. Shut up, fool. You make no sense.


              Originally posted by ADP02
              Floyd fought 4 times at 154.
              Not only did he fight 4 times at 154 but he got and held titles after fighting 3 of them. So to say, 3 of 4 opponents held titles.
              Did he ever weigh 154? What was the highest he weighed? For two of those fights at least, he LOST WEIGHT after the weigh in. Your hate is blinding you.

              Originally posted by ADP02
              This occurred BEFORE, DURING and AFTER being called out by Martinez. Martinez would more than likely have gone down to 150 as per his comments.
              So what you're saying is that because he fought at 154 he ducked everyone at 154. Is that right? Just come on out and say it so we can all have a laugh at your expense.

              Then explain how Roy ducked everyone at heavyweight. And how Sugar Ray Robinson ducked everyone at Light Heavy. How De La Hoya ducked everyone at 147 when he took on Pac. I can go on and on. YOU MAKE NO SENSE!

              Originally posted by ADP02
              So YES, FLOYD DUCKED. Floyd didn't even try to CW Martinez. Too risky!!!
              THAT'S EXACTLY WHY PACQUAIO AVOIDED HIM. TOO RISKY. TO TALK SHlT AND SAY THAT YOU WILL FIGHT AT 150, THEN SAY YOU WON'T. LMAOOOOOO. YOU SAY MARQUEZ BEAT THAT FIGHT OUT OF HIM. THAT'S A JOKE!

              I WISH YOU COULD CREATE A THREAD AND SAY THAT MANNY REFUSED SERGIO BECAUSE OF MARQUEZ. I'D LOVE TO WATCH EVERYONE LAUGH AT YOU.


              Originally posted by ADP02
              QUESTION TO THE DEFLECTOR:
              I say its a DUCK for Floyd.

              For you, was it a DUCK for Floyd at 154?

              For you, was it a DUCK for Floyd for not even accepting the fight at CW of 153, 152, 151 .... not even 150????


              This thread is a discussion against 160lbs Sergio Martinez (some Floyd fans say Floyd wins) yet you think we will buy your BS that not even 150-154 is acceptable fight?


              Floyd's face and expression explains it all.

              Check out Before being asked the question, seconds before, and after...... GOLD!!!


              .

              I've already answered you, f@g. No, he didn't duck him. But if you claim he did, then your boy Pacquiao clearly ducked him.


              WHY DO YOU KEEP DUCKING MY QUESTION. DO PAC AND MAYWEATHER REHYDRATE TO THE SAME SIZE? YES OR NO?

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                #57
                Originally posted by travestyny
                Oh really? You bought that? Now let's see if you can use some common sense.

                If Manny walks around at 138, how the **** does he rehydrate to 148 for Margarito?

                And you're clearly ducking that all: Roach, Arum, and Pacquiao said YES to fighting Sergio at 150.

                As soon as he accepted, they said no.


                Isn't that a fact??????
                Originally posted by travestyny
                One more for you:

                Manny Pacquiao is walking around at 153 pounds and is in no hurry to kick off training for his Nov. 14 fight with Miguel Cotto.

                Originally posted by ADP02
                So YES, FLOYD DUCKED.
                .

                WHY DID YOU DUCK AND DEFLECT FROM MY TWO POSTS ABOUT MANNY'S WEIGHT????? FIGHT NIGHT WEIGHTS FOR BOTH BASICALLY THE SAME! Explain!!!!
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                  #58
                  Originally posted by ADP02
                  For you, was it a DUCK for Floyd for not even accepting the fight at CW of 153, 152, 151 .... not even 150????


                  This thread is a discussion against 160lbs Sergio Martinez (some Floyd fans say Floyd wins) yet you think we will buy your BS that not even 150-154 is an acceptable fight?


                  Floyd's face and expression explains it all.

                  Check out Before being asked the question, seconds before, and after...... GOLD!!!





                  .

                  You're a moron. Checked out your video and all I saw was Mayweather say it's possible to make the fight, but Sergio should move up.

                  Mayweather went on record saying that the fight IS possible to be made. He specifically said they can make it if Sergio is at 150.

                  "If Sergio Martinez can make 150, let’s make the fight happen," Mayweather told Yahoo! Sports' Kevin Iole. "Like I said, there are no excuses. I’m a little different than other guys. He’s got a very, very impressive style. But like I said before, my main focus is a Manny Pacquiao fight."
                  Now, let's talk when this fight would happen.

                  3/2012 -- Sergio fights Macklin
                  5/2012 -- Mayweather fights Cotto


                  Did you expect him to choose Sergio over Cotto? I don't think anyone did. Ok.

                  Mayweather then does two months in prison, doesn't fight in September, as was his usual plan.

                  9/2012 -- Sergio fights Chavez Jr.

                  That means the earliest date for this fight is 5/2013, right?

                  4/2013 -- Martinez fights Murray.

                  5/2013 -- Mayweather fights Guerrero.


                  Do you expect him to fight Sergio here? After the prison stint and not boxing for a year at a weight that is not his weightclass? Yea, ok.

                  Ok...but now no excuses. Mayweather can finally fight Sergio 9/2013, right?

                  SERGIO MARTINEZ INJURED AND WON'T FIGHT AGAIN IN 2013 due to right knee injury, broken left hand, bad cut over eye.

                  9/2013 -- Mayweather fights Canelo


                  Sergio Martinez out for (the rest of) 2013
                  http://www.espn.com/boxing/story/_/i...ting-rest-2013
                  One more chance for this fight! 2014!!!!

                  5/2014: Mayweather fights Maidana
                  6/2014: Sergio fights Cotto


                  So why didn't Floyd fight Sergio over Maidana????

                  “That came from Sampson,” Cotto said in talking about 159lb catch-weight. “The first thing he said when we sat at the table was, ‘Sergio can’t run like before anymore and he wants to make his weight. He’s not going to be able to do less than 159 pounds.’ That was a petition from them, not us.”

                  What you got to say now? Explain the duck, please.

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                  • ADP02
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                    #59
                    Originally posted by travestyny
                    You're a moron. Checked out your video and all I saw was Mayweather say it's possible to make the fight, but Sergio should move up.

                    Mayweather went on record saying that the fight IS possible to be made. He specifically said they can make it if Sergio is at 150.



                    Now, let's talk when this fight would happen.

                    3/2012 -- Sergio fights Macklin
                    5/2012 -- Mayweather fights Cotto


                    Did you expect him to choose Sergio over Cotto? I don't think anyone did. Ok.

                    Mayweather then does two months in prison, doesn't fight in September, as was his usual plan.

                    9/2012 -- Sergio fights Chavez Jr.

                    That means the earliest date for this fight is 5/2013, right?

                    4/2013 -- Martinez fights Murray.

                    5/2013 -- Mayweather fights Guerrero.


                    Do you expect him to fight Sergio here? After the prison stint and not boxing for a year at a weight that is not his weightclass? Yea, ok.

                    Ok...but now no excuses. Mayweather can finally fight Sergio 9/2013, right?

                    SERGIO MARTINEZ INJURED AND WON'T FIGHT AGAIN IN 2013 due to right knee injury, broken left hand, bad cut over eye.

                    9/2013 -- Mayweather fights Canelo




                    One more chance for this fight! 2014!!!!

                    5/2014: Mayweather fights Maidana
                    6/2014: Sergio fights Cotto


                    So why didn't Floyd fight Sergio over Maidana????




                    What you got to say now? Explain the duck, please.


                    Man you are dancing all over the place!

                    First of all, Sergio Martinez had been calling out Floyd way before that interview.

                    Secondly, Cotto? Are you serious?
                    Floyd had the chance to fight him when he was with Arum but Floyd left .... then Floyd kept on refusing to fight Cotto, as per the interviews.

                    So now that version of Cotto was what Floyd wanted instead of one of the top P4P fighters in Sergio? At that time, nobody really cared for that fight with Cotto. Cotto had lost in devastating fashion to Manny and Margarito. People were scratching their heads when it was announced!!!


                    Thirdly, read the interviews.
                    That 150 CW was crazy for both Sergio Martinez and Manny and made no sense for either. One would be severely drained and the other didn't want to go over 147+.

                    So why should it make sense for Floyd? Still, last time that I checkedno fight was made. Floyd never went knocking on no Sergio Martinez door. Reporters pushed Floyd but everyone was ahead of the line and before Sergio Martinez .... even Guerrero who Floyd didn't even know who he was when asked.

                    When reporters asked Floyd about Sergio Martinez, it was always something else that was his "main focus"!!!


                    Interview:
                    Finally, did you see Floyd's face when asked the question? It went from a very happy face to "Oh no!!!" then his response was, Sergio can move up to 168? Is that how you respond?


                    Floyd can find anyone to fight but not Sergio Martinez. That is what you are saying? WOW!!!




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                    • travestyny
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                      #60
                      Originally posted by ADP02
                      Man you are dancing all over the place!

                      First of all, Sergio Martinez had been calling out Floyd way before that interview.
                      Then go and tell me when the fight should have been made. It's very simple. Then we can discuss the merits of your claim after that.


                      Originally posted by ADP02
                      Secondly, Cotto? Are you serious?
                      Floyd had the chance to fight him when he was with Arum but Floyd left .... then Floyd kept on refusing to fight Cotto, as per the interviews.

                      So now that version of Cotto was what Floyd wanted instead of one of the top P4P fighters in Sergio? At that time, nobody really cared for that fight with Cotto. Cotto had lost in devastating fashion to Manny and Margarito. People were scratching their heads when it was announced!!!
                      LMAO. Ok, buddy. You're saying a fight with Martinez does better than a fight with Cotto? I'm sure you could have sold that idea to Al Haymond. Meanwhile, those of us in reality would have seen this:

                      How about we take Cotto vs. Martinez...who is the A-side? Should be easy to see because they fought each other, right ADP02?

                      There was the discussion of A-Side, B-Side attractions and A-Class, B-Class level fighters.

                      Martinez’s argument is layered with the perspective of feeling that because Cotto may be the more marketable name, it does not mean he deserves top billing and should pay his respects to long reigning lineal middleweight champion.

                      From his own account, Martinez feels disrespected as a champion, because of all of the requests he had to abide to, in order to secure the fight with Cotto. For instance, Cotto’s preference of entering the ring last (a tradition reserved for the champion), PPV split, etc.

                      And to Cotto’s point in this instance, he is the A-side to this match-up with Martinez. He is the more popular fighter, he’s fought at Madison Square Garden on many occasions, he has been involved with extraordinary PPV events and has a huge fan following.
                      Mind you, at the time Mayweather fought Cotto, Cotto was coming off of avenging his loss to Margarito!

                      Originally posted by ADP02
                      Thirdly, read the interviews.
                      That 150 CW was crazy for both Sergio Martinez and Manny and made no sense for either. One would be severely drained and the other didn't want to go over 147+.

                      So why should it make sense for Floyd? Still, last time that I checkedno fight was made. Floyd never went knocking on no Sergio Martinez door. Reporters pushed Floyd but everyone was ahead of the line and before Sergio Martinez .... even Guerrero who Floyd didn't even know who he was when asked.

                      When reporters asked Floyd about Sergio Martinez, it was always something else that was his "main focus"!!!


                      Interview:
                      Finally, did you see Floyd's face when asked the question? It went from a very happy face to "Oh no!!!" then his response was, Sergio can move up to 168? Is that how you respond?


                      Floyd can find anyone to find but not Sergio Martinez. That is what you are saying? WOW!!!
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                      I don't understand what the **** you are trying to say with any of this. You still haven't answered my question of whether Pac and May rehydrate to the same weight.

                      Again, I showed you where Floyd said he would fight Martinez at 150. Yes, it wasn't made. Now go tell me when you think it should have been made. Let's see what makes sense. I hope you have a better answer than instead of the Cotto fight. Don't embarrass yourself, son.

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