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    #31
    Originally posted by travestyny
    You are ducking hard. Your position is invalid because AT THE TIME THE FIGHT WAS BEING DISCUSSED...MANNY SAID THAT HE WOULD FIGHT SERGIO AT 150.


    DID HE SAY THAT OR DID HE NOT?





    Martinez said of Pacquaio:




    So did Pacquiao duck him or not???????
    1) If you back to those days, you guys were asking for Pac to drain Martinez at 150 for a catch-weight bout? But, if he does, then he is the catch-weight king fighting at Manny-weight. Manny would get no credit from you guys anyhoot!


    2) It's not a duck or deflection by me because I already explained to you that Manny was asked while training during media day for another fight and said what he said .... perhaps its a possibility but if you check out the interview, Manny was getting ready to fight at what weight? Something like 144 and what were people saying after that fight?

    BTW - When they rethought about it, what did Manny say? 147 is as high as we go!!!




    I already explained to you. Manny never went up again to those weights so you cannot be ducking!!!

    Floyd did move back up several times more so YES that is what you call DUCK SEASON!!!


    Here is a DUCK:
    Floyd was going to fight Cotto at 154 and the reporter mentioned that Sergio Martinez wouldn't mind going down to fight Floyd Mayweather.

    The look of Floyd's from happiness to "oh no" is gold .... then he says "Sergio Martinez is a good fight for Andre Dirrell at 168"

    3:18 mark




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      #32
      Originally posted by ADP02
      1) If you back to those days, you guys were asking for Pac to drain Martinez at 150 for a catch-weight bout? But, if he does, then he is the catch-weight king fighting at Manny-weight. Manny would get no credit from you guys anyhoot!


      2) It's not a duck or deflection by me because I already explained to you that Manny was asked while training during media day for another fight and said what he said .... perhaps its a possibility but if you check out the interview, Manny was getting ready to fight at what weight? Something like 144 and what were people saying after that fight?

      BTW - When they rethought about it, what did Manny say? 147 is as high as we go!!!




      I already explained to you. Manny never went up again to those weights so you cannot be ducking!!!

      Floyd did move back up several times more so YES that is what you call DUCK SEASON!!!


      Here is a DUCK:
      Floyd was going to fight Cotto at 154 and the reporter mentioned that Sergio Martinez wouldn't mind going down to fight Floyd Mayweather.

      The look of Floyd's from happiness to "oh no" is gold .... then he says "Sergio Martinez is a good fight for Andre Dirrell at 168"

      3:18 mark




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      Dude, you are ducking. Don't go giving me that shlt that you found in another thread about catchweight king. You are just shoving your foot farther down your throat by mentioning that. How ****** that argument is when you realize HE WANTED TO DRAIN HIM FURTHER THAN THE PROPOSED CATCHWEIGHT!.


      STOP DUCKING. DID MANNY EVER SAY HE WOULD FIGHT SERGIO AT 150. YES OR NO? IF HE SAID YES, THAT DIRECTLY CONTRADICTS YOUR DEFENSE THAT MANNY SAID OVER 147 IS TOO MUCH. DID HE SAY HE WOULD FIGHT SERGIO AT 150? YES OR NO?

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        #33
        Originally posted by travestyny
        Dude, you are ducking. Don't go giving me that shlt that you found in another thread about catchweight king. You are just shoving your foot farther down your throat by mentioning that. How ****** that argument is when you realize HE WANTED TO DRAIN HIM FURTHER THAN THE PROPOSED CATCHWEIGHT!.


        STOP DUCKING. DID MANNY EVER SAY HE WOULD FIGHT SERGIO AT 150. YES OR NO? IF HE SAID YES, THAT DIRECTLY CONTRADICTS YOUR DEFENSE THAT MANNY SAID OVER 147 IS TOO MUCH. DID HE SAY HE WOULD FIGHT SERGIO AT 150? YES OR NO?

        DEFLECTOR is your name not mine.

        You just shot yourself in the foot! You said that Manny would be draining Sergio at 150!!! Sergio was said in interviews that he cannot go below 154 either since he hadn't done so in years (150 or lower) and wanted it at 154. So if Manny fights him at 150, you guys would not be giving Manny any credit! Am I right or am I right, DEFLECTOR!!!

        I explained it all and if you read, I said he said that perhaps that fight can happen. Then he barely wins a fight at 144 where I'm sure that you thought Marquez won then you expect Manny to go ahead and fight Martinez at 150?


        DEFLECTOR,
        a) Manny said he wouldn't go above 147 after his training for his Margarito fight.

        b) PLUS, if you are getting ready to fight at 144 and someone asks you if you think there is a possibility of going up to 150 and you say yes perhaps, lets see .... and What followed is a close win where you guys thought Manny lost at 144. That in itself throws all your dumb talk out of the window!

        c) PLUS, Manny never went up above 147 again.

        d) Another interview Manny said, 147 is high enough for him. Those guys are too big (147+) and used Margarito as an example!!!

        a + b + c + d means it was NOT a DUCK!!


        QUESTION 1:
        Given the circumstances (a, b, c, d), do you understand that this is NOT a DUCK ??



        DEFLECTOR:
        Floyd's upcoming fight was at 154. Floyd already fought previously at 154 and years later, had no problem fighting in that division again.
        QUESTION 2:
        You know what happened.
        a) Floyd fought at 154 BEFORE, DURING and AFTER the call out of Sergio Martinez.
        b) You saw Floyd's face when asked about Sergio Martinez calling him out and his response for Martinez to go fight at 168.


        Was Floyd DUCKING???????????


        I have around 4 questions for you DEFLECTOR. Lets see you respond.



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          #34
          Originally posted by ADP02
          DEFLECTOR is your name not mine.

          You just shot yourself in the foot! You said that Manny would be draining Sergio at 150!!! Sergio was said in interviews that he cannot go below 154 either since he hadn't done so in years (150 or lower) and wanted it at 154. So if Manny fights him at 150, you guys would not be giving Manny any credit! Am I right or am I right, DEFLECTOR!!!

          I explained it all and if you read, I said he said that perhaps that fight can happen. Then he barely wins a fight at 144 where I'm sure that you thought Marquez won then you expect Manny to go ahead and fight Martinez at 150?


          DEFLECTOR,
          a) Manny said he wouldn't go above 147 after his training for his Margarito fight.

          b) PLUS, if you are getting ready to fight at 144 and someone asks you if you think there is a possibility of going up to 150 and you say yes perhaps, lets see .... and What followed is a close win where you guys thought Manny lost at 144. That in itself throws all your dumb talk out of the window!

          c) PLUS, Manny never went up above 147 again.

          d) Another interview Manny said, 147 is high enough for him. Those guys are too big (147+) and used Margarito as an example!!!

          a + b + c + d means it was NOT a DUCK!!


          QUESTION 1:
          Given the circumstances (a, b, c, d), do you understand that this is NOT a DUCK ??



          DEFLECTOR:
          Floyd's upcoming fight was at 154. Floyd already fought previously at 154 and years later, had no problem fighting in that division again.
          QUESTION 2:
          You know what happened.
          a) Floyd fought at 154 BEFORE, DURING and AFTER the call out of Sergio Martinez.
          b) You saw Floyd's face when asked about Sergio Martinez calling him out and his response for Martinez to go fight at 168.


          Was Floyd DUCKING???????????


          I have around 4 questions for you DEFLECTOR. Lets see you respond.



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          Ahhhh, see. This is why I smack you around. I've tried to be civil, no name calling. Here you go with the deflector bullshlt when clearly you are the one that is deflecting.


          Did Manny say that he will fight Sergio at 150. Yes or no?

          I've asked you about 3 times now and you haven't answered yet.



          From the tone of your response, it seems to me that:

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            #35
            Originally posted by ADP02
            I explained it all and if you read, I said he said that perhaps that fight can happen. Then he barely wins a fight at 144 where I'm sure that you thought Marquez won then you expect Manny to go ahead and fight Martinez at 150?


            Wait a second. Wait a second. So before the fight with Marquez, Pacquiao said that he would fight Sergio Martinez at 150lbs.

            And you're telling me that 143lb Marquez beat up Manny so badly (in a fight that Manny "won," mind you), that Pacquiao then refused to fight above 147 again?


            THIS IS ACTUALLY YOUR EXCUSE????? MARQUEZ BEAT MANNY SO BADLY THAT HE THOUGHT HE SHOULD STAY BELOW 147????

            MARQUEZ IS THE REASON THAT MANNY DECIDED NOT TO FIGHT ABOVE 147 ANYMORE, ACCORDING TO ADP02. I'VE ****ING HEARD IT ALL NOW!


            IS THAT YOUR STATEMENT??? I'D LIKE YOU TO STATE THAT CLEARLY

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              #36
              Originally posted by ADP02
              DEFLECTOR is your name not mine.

              You just shot yourself in the foot! You said that Manny would be draining Sergio at 150!!! Sergio was said in interviews that he cannot go below 154 either since he hadn't done so in years (150 or lower) and wanted it at 154. So if Manny fights him at 150, you guys would not be giving Manny any credit! Am I right or am I right, DEFLECTOR!!!

              I explained it all and if you read, I said he said that perhaps that fight can happen. Then he barely wins a fight at 144 where I'm sure that you thought Marquez won then you expect Manny to go ahead and fight Martinez at 150?


              DEFLECTOR,
              a) Manny said he wouldn't go above 147 after his training for his Margarito fight.

              b) PLUS, if you are getting ready to fight at 144 and someone asks you if you think there is a possibility of going up to 150 and you say yes perhaps, lets see .... and What followed is a close win where you guys thought Manny lost at 144. That in itself throws all your dumb talk out of the window!

              c) PLUS, Manny never went up above 147 again.

              d) Another interview Manny said, 147 is high enough for him. Those guys are too big (147+) and used Margarito as an example!!!

              a + b + c + d means it was NOT a DUCK!!


              QUESTION 1:
              Given the circumstances (a, b, c, d), do you understand that this is NOT a DUCK ??



              DEFLECTOR:
              Floyd's upcoming fight was at 154. Floyd already fought previously at 154 and years later, had no problem fighting in that division again.
              QUESTION 2:
              You know what happened.
              a) Floyd fought at 154 BEFORE, DURING and AFTER the call out of Sergio Martinez.
              b) You saw Floyd's face when asked about Sergio Martinez calling him out and his response for Martinez to go fight at 168.


              Was Floyd DUCKING???????????


              I have around 4 questions for you DEFLECTOR. Lets see you respond.



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              Originally posted by travestyny
              Ahhhh, see. This is why I smack you around. I've tried to be civil, no name calling. Here you go with the deflector bullshlt when clearly you are the one that is deflecting.


              Did Manny say that he will fight Sergio at 150. Yes or no?

              I've asked you about 3 times now and you haven't answered yet.



              From the tone of your response, it seems to me that:

              DEFLECTOR .... I answered your question like 3 or 4 times. YES he did say that there was a possibility of it happening but Manny then went to fight a close fight where in many of you Floyd's fans eyes and many Marquez fans had lost a fight to Marquez at 144. I said this already, didn't I?

              and lets not forget my other points, DEFLECTOR!!!


              So its that time AGAIN .... time for you to answer the questions.

              Lets make this one simple. Below are the 5 questions that I asked you to respond but YOU DEFLECTED:
              1) Would you and other Floyd fans be calling Manny a CW king if he fought Sergio Martinez and won at 150?


              2) Would you say that Manny drained Sergio Martinez down to 150?


              3) Given the circumstances that occurred and I mentioned in my previous post(a, b, c, d), do you understand that this is NOT a DUCK ??


              4)
              a) In your eyes, Did Manny or Marquez win fight 3?
              b) Do you agree that there were many Floyd fans and Marquez fans that also said that Marquez won?


              5) a) Floyd fought at 154 BEFORE, DURING and AFTER the call out of Sergio Martinez.

              b) You saw Floyd's face when asked about Sergio Martinez calling him out and Floyd's response for Martinez to go fight at 168.


              Was Floyd DUCKING???????????



              Time's UP!!! Respond!!!

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                #37
                Originally posted by ADP02
                Manny fought once at 150 and during his training camp said he is not going above 147 anymore.
                Let's watch you prove yourself wrong!

                Originally posted by travestyny
                Did you ever admit to yourself that Pacquiao said he would fight Sergio at 150 and then when Sergio took the bait, Pac backed down?

                Originally posted by ADP02
                YES he did say that there was a possibility of it happening

                Right there it's over for you. Pacquaio said that he would fight Sergio at 150. Sergio agreed. Pacquiao then said he wouldn't fight him at 150.


                And the difference maker according to you: Juan Manuel Marquez


                Originally posted by ADP02
                but Manny then went to fight a close fight where in many of you Floyd's fans eyes and many Marquez fans had lost a fight to Marquez at 144.

                That's the dumbest shlt I ever heard. Manny rejected Sergio at 150 because of Marquez


                Originally posted by ADP02
                Lets make this one simple. Below are the 5 questions that I asked you to respond but YOU DEFLECTED:
                You're full of shlt. You mean I asked you a question three times and you refused to answer me, then you gave a bullshlt response. I always answer your questions and then you run off. I'll do it again for you little guy. No problem.

                Originally posted by ADP02
                1) Would you and other Floyd fans be calling Manny a CW king if he fought Sergio Martinez and won at 150?
                Some people would, some people wouldn't. Who the **** cares. Which one is worse, you moron? For arguments sake, let's say yes I'd call him a catchweight king because that's what he is.

                Now, WHAT THE **** WOULD EVERYONE CALL HIM IF HE FOUGHT SERGIO AT 147, YOU ****ING DUNCE.


                Originally posted by ADP02
                2) Would you say that Manny drained Sergio Martinez down to 150?
                YES. SERGIO SAID HIMSELF THAT HE WOULD HAVE TO DRAIN DOWN TO 150. He said he's cool with that. Now. What the **** does that have to do with MANNY TRYING TO DRAIN HIM DOWN TO 147!!!!. IS THERE NO LIMIT TO HOW MUCH HE WANTS TO DRAIN GUYS???

                Originally posted by ADP02
                3) Given the circumstances that occurred and I mentioned in my previous post(a, b, c, d), do you understand that this is NOT a DUCK ??
                NO. Didn't I explain this to you already? HOW THE **** CAN YOU CLAIM THAT IT'S NOT A DUCK BECAUSE MANNY SAID HE WOULND'T FIGHT ABOVE 147 WHEN.....AT THE TIME....HE SAID HE WOULD FIGHT ABOVE 147!!!!. YOU MAKE NO SENSE.

                Originally posted by ADP02
                4)
                a) In your eyes, Did Manny or Marquez win fight 3?
                b) Do you agree that there were many Floyd fans and Marquez fans that also said that Marquez won?
                A. He lost fight 3.
                B. Yes. Many people thought Marquez won.

                Is this part of your ridiculous defense that Marquez scared Pacquaio away from a 150lb fight? LMAOOOO! Tell me more!

                Originally posted by ADP02
                5) a) Floyd fought at 154 BEFORE, DURING and AFTER the call out of Sergio Martinez.

                b) You saw Floyd's face when asked about Sergio Martinez calling him out and Floyd's response for Martinez to go fight at 168.


                Was Floyd DUCKING???????????

                I've answered this question in the past and I'll do it again. No, I don't think that Floyd was ducking. I don't even think that Pacquiao was ducking. The point of the matter is that YOU believe one was ducking and not the other, but your defense is based on a lie.

                You said that Pac said he would never fight above 147, but regarding this specific fight, he said he would (DIRECTLY CONTRADICTS YOUR ORIGINAL DEFENSE).

                Then you tried to change it to Marquez scared him away from a 150lb fight with Sergio, which is moronic and desperate as ****.

                Neither Floyd nor Manny were 154lb fighters. Their division was 147. Would you say Roy Jones ducked Lennox Lewis? Did Sugar Ray Robinson duck light-heavyweights (if his fight against Maxim ended in the 12th, he would have won).

                Neither Pac nor Floyd are even considered big welterweights. I easily give them both a pass for not fighting Martinez, who like Floyd said, should have been looking up instead of down.

                Does that answer your questions? Maybe you realize now that you're a hypocrite, hmmmm?


                And one more time....LMAO at your dumb ass lame Marquez excuse
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                  #38
                  Originally posted by ADP02
                  Time's UP!!! Respond!!!
                  Now it's my turn:


                  You are stating that Pacquiao, whom you agree that previous to the third Marquez fight, agreed that he would fight Sergio Martinez at 150lbs, decided not to based on his 144lb fight with Marquez.

                  So Manny decided to avoid fighting above 147 because of the damage he took from Marquez. Is that your statement? Don't give me an essay. Do you agree or disagree?


                  According to Arum, Pac doesn't care about weight and would have fought Canelo above 147.

                  And according to Freddie Roach, Pacquiao was present for negotiations to fight Canelo above 147. So did Marquez really beat that fight out of him?


                  Manny was present for discussions about fighting Canelo above 147, AND THEY CONSIDERED IT.



                  This means he considered a move above 147 specifically for the Martinez fight and also AFTER the Martinez ship had sailed
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                    #39
                    Originally posted by travestyny
                    Let's watch you prove yourself wrong!

                    Right there it's over for you. Pacquaio said that he would fight Sergio at 150. Sergio agreed. Pacquiao then said he wouldn't fight him at 150.


                    And the difference maker according to you: Juan Manuel Marquez





                    That's the dumbest shlt I ever heard. Manny rejected Sergio at 150 because of Marquez




                    You're full of shlt. You mean I asked you a question three times and you refused to answer me, then you gave a bullshlt response. I always answer your questions and then you run off. I'll do it again for you little guy. No problem.



                    Some people would, some people wouldn't. Who the **** cares. Which one is worse, you moron? For arguments sake, let's say yes I'd call him a catchweight king because that's what he is.

                    Now, WHAT THE **** WOULD EVERYONE CALL HIM IF HE FOUGHT SERGIO AT 147, YOU ****ING DUNCE.




                    YES. SERGIO SAID HIMSELF THAT HE WOULD HAVE TO DRAIN DOWN TO 150. He said he's cool with that. Now. What the **** does that have to do with MANNY TRYING TO DRAIN HIM DOWN TO 147!!!!. IS THERE NO LIMIT TO HOW MUCH HE WANTS TO DRAIN GUYS???



                    NO. Didn't I explain this to you already? HOW THE **** CAN YOU CLAIM THAT IT'S NOT A DUCK BECAUSE MANNY SAID HE WOULND'T FIGHT ABOVE 147 WHEN.....AT THE TIME....HE SAID HE WOULD FIGHT ABOVE 147!!!!. YOU MAKE NO SENSE.



                    A. He lost fight 3.
                    B. Yes. Many people thought Marquez won.

                    Is this part of your ridiculous defense that Marquez scared Pacquaio away from a 150lb fight? LMAOOOO! Tell me more!




                    I've answered this question in the past and I'll do it again. No, I don't think that Floyd was ducking. I don't even think that Pacquiao was ducking. The point of the matter is that YOU believe one was ducking and not the other, but your defense is based on a lie.

                    You said that Pac said he would never fight above 147, but regarding this specific fight, he said he would (DIRECTLY CONTRADICTS YOUR ORIGINAL DEFENSE).

                    Then you tried to change it to Marquez scared him away from a 150lb fight with Sergio, which is moronic and desperate as ****.

                    Neither Floyd nor Manny were 154lb fighters. Their division was 147. Would you say Roy Jones ducked Lennox Lewis? Did Sugar Ray Robinson duck light-heavyweights (if his fight against Maxim ended in the 12th, he would have won).

                    Neither Pac nor Floyd are even considered big welterweights. I easily give them both a pass for not fighting Martinez, who like Floyd said, should have been looking up instead of down.

                    Does that answer your questions? Maybe you realize now that you're a hypocrite, hmmmm?


                    And one more time....LMAO at your dumb ass lame Marquez excuse

                    Great ... you finally answered but got it all wrong except this:

                    YOU SAID and agreed with me that Manny did not DUCK Martinez!!!


                    but WOW unlike your warped mind, I gave you 4 points not 1. All of them combined should make you understand that Manny couldn't have been DUCKing

                    but YES, man, are you for real? When you are struggling against a guy who just moved up a couple of divisions to 144 then OF COURSE it gives you a different perspective on who you should be fighting next!!! Your goals can change BUT as I stated, it was media day and that is the answer that Manny gave when asked. He said perhaps that can happen. You are allowed to change your mind when you are factoring in everything that happened and what he said about going over 147!!! Its not a DUCK!!! You even are saying its' not a DUCK


                    Q1) Who the **** cares about the 150 CW?
                    Funny stuff! Secondly, that fight was never going to happen at 147 as per Sergio Martinez interviews BEFORE this started, during and after .... or did you see a fight that we didn't see? LOL


                    Q2) See, that is 2 for 2!!! You and others wouldn't have given Manny credit anyways!!! Funny stuff!!!


                    Q3) Drrr,
                    - Maybe because Manny's interview during Margarito training?
                    - Maybe because of his other interviews saying 147+ fights are out of question because they are too big for Manny?
                    - Maybe because Manny never fought again above 147?
                    - Maybe because Manny was asked a question on media day and made the best of it and said perhaps it can happen? Sergio said that Manny's team said not above 147 when it was directly about making the fight happen. Sergio Martinez was too big. Is that a duck? I said no. You said no!


                    Q4) Man, I think that I'm 5 for 5 !!!

                    I cannot help you if you do not understand what I said and that you have a different opinion on the matter. Above 147 was already questionable or do you just listen to Manny only when he says that there may be the possibility at 150? LOL How about when he said BEFORE and AFTER that he is too small? You closed your ears and eyes? LOL

                    Yes, a fight can change your perspective if what Manny said was a serious possibility but I believe given the time that it would have occurred, I didn't think so! I always felt that if Manny takes on Sergio Martinez it would have occurred after a Floyd fight not before. I'm sure Bob told him the risk of losing any chance in a Floyd fight if he loses badly .... Even though, it's actually the other way around. Floyd fights you when he knows that you are no longer the same fighter ......

                    BTW - Lets make it clear enough so that you too can understand. Manny gets KOd. You still think the way you do? Next fight, Sergio Martinez? lol



                    Q5) Again, your response is absurd.

                    Manny was asked a question and at that moment he said perhaps it can happen but he also said that there is a limit and needs to protect himself. Soon after, Manny's team said Manny will not fight above 147. Manny said the same in other interviews. Manny never fought about that since he said he wouldn't ..... In fact, Manny could fight even below 147 and has!!! and you said Manny didn't DUCK!!! LOL



                    Honestly, you think its not a duck for Manny but you keep on posting like it was .... I guess it's a defense mechanism to protect the REAL DUCKER!!! LOL



                    But of course, the one question out of 5 that was for Floyd, you still bring up Manny!!!



                    Sorry but it was a DUCK for Floyd. He fought 4 times at 154!!! Floyd held a title 3 different times at 154.

                    a) AGAIN, Floyd didn't fight just once at the 154 division. Floyd fought 4 times.

                    b) Floyd, his dad and uncle said that weight doesn't win you fights, skills does and brings up that it wouldn't make an impact unless he was fighting a guy at 168.

                    c) You Floyd fans wanted to see Floyd fight Cotto at 160! Hypocrites you say?

                    d) In that interview, Floyd was getting ready to fight at .... 154 AGAIN!!! Look at Floyd's face when Sergio Martinez's name came up. It went from happiness to "Oh no, why did you bring up Martinez!!!" Yet, you say that this "supposed" TBE was able to fight 4 times at 154 but couldn't against Sergio Martinez? What a load of crock is that?

                    e) Go check out the title of this thread. Who wins at ..... 160 and some Floyd fans are still pulling for Floyd. At 154, all you Floyd fans would have Floyd winning ....and read some say "easily" ..... ?


                    Of course, you were not going to agree to the obvious but Floyd DUCKED Martinez!!!


                    It's DUCK SEASON!!!!!!

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                      #40
                      Originally posted by ADP02
                      How about when he said BEFORE and AFTER that he is too small? You closed your ears and eyes? LOL
                      GOTCHA BlTCH. HE DIDN'T SAY HE WAS TOO SMALL. HE SAID HE WOULD FIGHT SERGIO AT 150. HE ALSO WAS PRESENT FOR NEGOTIATIONS FOR CANELO ABOVE 147. HOW YOU GONNA SPIN IT, HUH?

                      A whole lot of bull****. Are you ready to admit you are a hypocrite yet, or do I have to keep pounding you into the ground?











                      YOUR ONLY DEFENSE IS THAT YOU SAY MARQUEZ ****ED YOUR BOY UP SO BAD THAT HE DECIDED TO NEVER FIGHT ABOVE 147 AGAIN. BUT OOOPS. HE WAS THERE DISCUSSING FIGHTING CANELO ABOVE 147.


                      How many times did Mayweather make 154lbs. Can you tell me his weights?

                      Mayweather Fight Night Weight vs. Canelo (2013): 150

                      Pacquiao Weight as far back as Cotto (2006): 148-149 at least.


                      Aside from sweating it out, Pacquiao said Cotto also needed to lessen his food intake for him to go down at the desired catch weight of 145 pounds.

                      At the moment, Pacquiao weighs around 148 to 149 pounds
                      They're the same damn size. Stop with your damn lying. You're a disgrace. Here:

                      2005 Fight Night Weights:

                      Pacquiao @130 - Rehydrate to 139
                      Mayweather @139 - Rehydrate to 142

                      At 16, they were both at 106.


                      Head to head:
                      Pacquiao on fight night: 152
                      Mayweather on fight night: 149


                      Stop with your ****ing dumb ass agenda. I'M PROVIDING ALL FACTS, NOT YOUR DUMB ASS DESPERATE SPECULATION! You aren't fooling anyone you hypocrite. Your ****** ass defenses, like "MARQUEZ IS THE REASON THAT MANNY DIDN'T FIGHT SERGIO AT 150, IS A ****ING EMBARRASSMENT. YOU'RE A SHlT POSTER.
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