Floyd Mayweather Jr vs Sergio Martinez at 160

[hhh1200]

How about him and Martinez at 147?

How about 154? FMW had 2 belts for 2 yrs and Martinez fought in the class, so that is their fair match up weight?

FMW vs Martinez 154 WBA/WBC

[travestyny]

I gave you 4 points not 1. All of them combined should make you understand that Manny couldn't have been DUCKing

Look how ****** you are, when your 4 points are all DEFLECTIONS!!!!!

1) Would you and other Floyd fans be calling Manny a CW king if he fought Sergio Martinez and won at 150?

Deflecting from Pacquiao saying he would fight at 150, then changing his mind!
SO YOUR POINT IS HE DIDN'T DUCK.....BECAUSE HE SAID HE WOULD FIGHT HIM AT 150 BUT THEN SAID HE WOULD ONLY FIGHT HIM IF HE DRAINS HIM MORE TO 147 That is beyond ******ed.

2) Would you say that Manny drained Sergio Martinez down to 150?

Deflecting from Pacquiao saying he would fight at 150, then changing his mind!
So he didn't duck him because he said he would fight him at an impossible weight, but previously said he would fight him at 150, and Sergio agreed! LMAO.

3) Given the circumstances that occurred and I mentioned in my previous post(a, b, c, d), do you understand that this is NOT a DUCK ??

Deflecting from Pacquiao saying he would fight at 150, then changing his mind!
LMAO. Your "he didn't duck him because he said he would fight him at 150...but changed it to 147" doesn't make any sense, moron!

4)
a) In your eyes, Did Manny or Marquez win fight 3?
b) Do you agree that there were many Floyd fans and Marquez fans that also said that Marquez won?

Deflecting from Pacquiao saying he would fight at 150, then changing his mind!
LMAOOO. And your last "point," Manny really lost to Marquez, so he didn't duck Sergio, though he said he would fight him at 150 but changed his mind. LMAOOOOO

What does fan perception of the catchweight have to do with Manny saying, "Yes, I will fight him at 150. No problem. Oh...wait...No! I will only fight him at 147. But I might fight Canelo above 147. No actually I won't fight him either. Floyd is the same size as me, but I'm too butt to fight these guys. Floyd is ducking them...but not me. We are the same size...but he's ducking. I'm not. :-|

You're a joke!

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Oh, let me add one more:

Mayweather fight night vs. De La Hoya at 154: 148lbs.
Pacquaio fight night vs. De La Hoya at 147: 148.5lbs


The difference between these 2 fighters is that your boy is a bltch. LMAO!

[HarvardBlue]

So now there needs to be an incentive to fight Martinez yet Floyd cherry picks another Argentinian name Maidana? What was the incentive there? Fights Berto? Incentive was what again?

Well, I kinda said it. Incentive is to cherry pick and win while removing any chance of a loss by crying and getting his way with gloves, refs, .....!


At least you agreed on Martinez's size was relatively smaller compared to other 160 fighters.


The incentive is that Floyd fights a top P4P fighter at the top of his game and where Floyd would not have the advantage that he has against fighters such as Guerrero, Ortiz, Berto, ..... and people would have given him credit for a very good win! How is that for an incentive?


BTW - If word gets out that Floyd was fighting a very risky opponent, that would bring in the fans .... that is another incentive.


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Maidana and Berto was easier to make logistically. You know it and I know you know it. The only people saying it was risky are people like yourself looking for just ONE more boxer that could defeat Mayweather. Martinez wasn't a risky fight for Mayweather. Btw, they're both retired so neither one of us will get s chance to prove our points.

[iamboxing]

Sergio was a well known drug cheat, retired before testing became more rigorous.

[Metho_4u]

People are still making these "how ridiculous a handicap can we put on Floyd" threads?

Apparently...hard for people to accept 50-0

[moltres.]

i love sergio. he throws hell marys. a couple hell marys a fight. i call it the gts (go to sleep). the paul wall fights where classic action packed fights. better than canelo ggg fight imo. paul wall and sergio give ggg and canelo hell and i only wish they were in there prime right now.

[elfag]

Floyd beats the brakes off of Sergio. A prime in shape one, not the one with two broken knees that cotto "beat"

[TMT Hassan]

why do ppl make dumb threads like this, might aswell do floyd vs tyson at 175

[ADP02]

GOTCHA BlTCH. HE DIDN'T SAY HE WAS TOO SMALL. HE SAID HE WOULD FIGHT SERGIO AT 150. HE ALSO WAS PRESENT FOR NEGOTIATIONS FOR CANELO ABOVE 147. HOW YOU GONNA SPIN IT, HUH?

A whole lot of bull****. Are you ready to admit you are a hypocrite yet, or do I have to keep pounding you into the ground?











YOUR ONLY DEFENSE IS THAT YOU SAY MARQUEZ ****ED YOUR BOY UP SO BAD THAT HE DECIDED TO NEVER FIGHT ABOVE 147 AGAIN. BUT OOOPS. HE WAS THERE DISCUSSING FIGHTING CANELO ABOVE 147.


How many times did Mayweather make 154lbs. Can you tell me his weights?

Mayweather Fight Night Weight vs. Canelo (2013): 150

Pacquiao Weight as far back as Cotto (2006): 148-149 at least.



They're the same damn size. Stop with your damn lying. You're a disgrace. Here:

2005 Fight Night Weights:

Pacquiao @130 - Rehydrate to 139
Mayweather @139 - Rehydrate to 142

At 16, they were both at 106.

Head to head:
Pacquiao on fight night: 152
Mayweather on fight night: 149

Stop with your ****ing dumb ass agenda. I'M PROVIDING ALL FACTS, NOT YOUR DUMB ASS DESPERATE SPECULATION! You aren't fooling anyone you hypocrite. Your ****** ass defenses, like "MARQUEZ IS THE REASON THAT MANNY DIDN'T FIGHT SERGIO AT 150, IS A ****ING EMBARRASSMENT. YOU'RE A SHlT POSTER.

I have interviews from Manny himself saying that they are too big. Manny tried it against Margarito ..... then said during his training camp, nope I do not want to fight above 147+. He never did. FACTS!!!!


So what you are saying is what we already know. Sergio Martinez, Canelo fights were proposed and so they discussed it! So that means what to you?

Canelo fight, Sergio fight ..... DIDN'T HAPPEN. Why? The problem is as even Roach brings up is that they are too big for Manny.

Imagine, Canelo fight was even AFTER the Floyd fight and it still didn't happen.



but come on man.
I gave you an interview with Manny saying NO to a fight with Canelo because he is too big and brings up the Margarito fight and watch the expression on Manny's face. Due to the money on the table, its always tempting and of course, they would think about HOW IT COULD GET DONE .... and in Canelo's case, Manny would be getting another division title (to make it 9 divisions!!!) so the incentive was huge .....but at the end of the day, BOTH YOU and I know why the fights were NOT made!!!!




REHYDRATION?
You really want to bring this up? Head to head? Only 1 guy required 2 banned IV bags and from what you are stating, your with me. Floyd didn't require no banned IV bags because he hardly gains any weight from weigh in to fight night!


DEFLECTOR, respond to this:
Your hero Floyd fought guys that are either as big as Sergio Martinez, fought Sergio Martinez or are bigger than Sergio Martinez. So what was the problem with fighting Sergio Martinez?

Floyd knew that Sergio Martinez would have caused big time problems for Floyd and more than likely a loss ... Floyd and his dad and uncle said skills wins fights not weight but now you are saying its not the case?



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[travestyny]

The problem is as even Roach brings up is that they are too big for Manny.

Oh, really now?

FREDDIE ROACH: WE'LL FIGHT MARTINEZ AT 150!!!

but come on man.
I gave you an interview with Manny saying NO to a fight with Canelo because he is too big and brings up the Margarito fight and watch the expression on Manny's face.

I gave you an interview with Manny saying, "Yes, I will fight Sergio Martinez at 150lbs."

Due to the money on the table, its always tempting and of course, they would think about HOW IT COULD GET DONE .... and in Canelo's case, Manny would be getting another division title (to make it 9 divisions!!!) so the incentive was huge .....but at the end of the day, BOTH YOU and I know why the fights were NOT made!!!!

Not the point. The point is you are saying one ducked and the other didn't. You are having a hard time justifying that being that your argument is really based on weight, and they are the same size. You're saying Mayweather, who never weighed in more than 151 and rehydrated to LESS than that, should be forced to fight bigger guys because he did it 4 times, but not Manny who on fight night is the same size as Mayweahter because he did it only once. The amount of times they fought there matters not. How much will they weigh on fight night versus Sergio? ABOUT THE SAME. So your double standard is exposed.

REHYDRATION?
You really want to bring this up? Head to head? Only 1 guy required 2 banned IV bags and from what you are stating, your with me. Floyd didn't require no banned IV bags because he hardly gains any weight from weigh in to fight night!

You're still trying to play internet doctor? How was Floyd dehydrated for the Mosley fight? You never answered. Apparently around the time of the Mosley fight, he was fluctuating in weight a whole lot, right? LMAO

DEFLECTOR, respond to this:

Shut the **** up, bltch. Only one of us answers every single question. And that's not you, you piece of shlt.

Your hero Floyd fought guys that are either as big as Sergio Martinez, fought Sergio Martinez or are bigger than Sergio Martinez. So what was the problem with fighting Sergio Martinez?

Sergio Martinez is naturally 15lbs bigger than Floyd Mayweather at least. You are saying that you believe Mayweather can duck a guy that is 15lbs heavier.

No, it's not possible.

And here is the point: If you say it is possible, then that means Manny Pacquiao ducked him too, because Manny Pacquaio rehydrates to 151 and Sergio Martinez rehydrates to 166.

So what's good for the goose is good for the gander, right? Or in this case, what's good for the goose is good for the DUCK, right?

My turn! Don't duck this, DEFLECTOR!

Explain why one guy being faced with a 15lb heavier guy is ducking, while the other guy being faced with a 15lb heavier guy is not ducking. I'll wait, DEFLECTOR.

Floyd knew that Sergio Martinez would have caused big time problems for Floyd and more than likely a loss ... Floyd and his dad and uncle said skills wins fights not weight but now you are saying its not the case?
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Pacquiao knew that Sergio Martinez would have caused big time problems for Pacquiao and more than likely a loss ... Pac and his daddy Roach and his promotor said Manny is not afraid of facing Sergio at 150lbs. Now you are saying its not the case?