Comments Thread For: Canelo-GGG Replay Peaks at 840K Viewers, Averages 726K on HBO

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  • bigdunny1
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    #41
    Originally posted by Bobby Shaw
    This fight would be lucky to do 800k. It was a great fight but you need 2 big names not 2 good fighters. Marketing is something else and having the Mayweather fight didn't help. I remember how Canelo thought he could go head to head against Mayweather. Just shows that Canelo doesn't only lack height but brains.
    Rick Glaser has already reported that the fight did over 1M buys and more then the Chavez fight. And glaser universally has lower numbers then what promoters and networks report. Meaning the fight without a doubt did over 1M. Remember Glaser said mayweather/Mcgregor did 3.2M buys while dana white first said it did 6.5M, then showtime and promoters saying it did 4M. Glaser numbers are always on a curve lower. Based on glaser numbers and HBO execs telling Dan Rafael canelo/GIG might hit 2M buys that the fight ends up at 1.5M minimum.

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    • angkag
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      #42
      Originally posted by KingHippo
      Lol, what you said made absolutely no sense. Quite poetic though.

      GGG fans are the best I tell ya
      Kinghippo ! Really ! I guess it doesn't make too much sense, but was indeed poetic. However, I can't take any credit......(and I butchered the words just a little.....)

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      • HURTFEELINGS
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        #43
        Originally posted by KingHippo
        Nah, it's just a of GGG fans over estimating his fan base. He's little more than an internet sensation at this point. His online popularity doesn't extend to the real word.
        THIS

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        • HURTFEELINGS
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          #44
          Originally posted by MisanthropicNY
          We're in a PC ******* era of boxing... where Slick Black boxing styles are given extra credit and making someone miss by running is the equivalent to landing a Mike Tyson left hook...
          I almost gave you credit for your last comment because for the first time in a long time you didnt involve race.....but here you go again. what is pc ******* boxing....and some people call making people miss DEFENSE. Hit and not be hit. You used to be a decent poster to this forum, but lately you've been carrying your tiki torch. Whats the right wing style of boxing? You've fallen off and now youre a sad version of a once reputable poster, now there is no need to read anything you post. When your name is seen, your equivalent to Lou Cipher, Twosweethooks and the other ignorant trolls. Because we know as fellow posters how far you've fallen.

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          • Jsmooth9876
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            #45
            I didn't watch the replay but did watch the Linares fight. Didn't feel like sitting through that ****** decision again. I have it on the DVR, when I feel like watching it again I will. Not anytime soon though

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            • angkag
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              #46
              Serious question here, but what exactly sells in the US these days ?

              Clearly Floyd, but why ? He doesn't produce the sort of action packed fights that I would assume the 'casual' would want to tune in to. Pac did, so can sort of understand that one a bit. But I guess the question is why more people wouldn't be interested in someone like GGG who isn't going to produce a boring fight ?

              Canelo also produces fun fights to watch, albeit against dubious competition at times (Khan, old Cotto, Smith), so can maybe understand why the wind might have dulled a bit in his sails. But surely Canelo v GGG would tick all the boxes ?

              Just not understanding what the average fan at home in the US looks for these days.

              Would a Joshua fight in the US be big ? (like Mayweather big)

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              • HURTFEELINGS
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                #47
                Originally posted by angkag
                Serious question here, but what exactly sells in the US these days ?

                Clearly Floyd, but why ? He doesn't produce the sort of action packed fights that I would assume the 'casual' would want to tune in to. Pac did, so can sort of understand that one a bit. But I guess the question is why more people wouldn't be interested in someone like GGG who isn't going to produce a boring fight ?

                Canelo also produces fun fights to watch, albeit against dubious competition at times (Khan, old Cotto, Smith), so can maybe understand why the wind might have dulled a bit in his sails. But surely Canelo v GGG would tick all the boxes ?

                Just not understanding what the average fan at home in the US looks for these days.

                Would a Joshua fight in the US be big ? (like Mayweather big)
                Because you assume
                People like skill as you can see by Mayweathers PPV #'s
                except for a certain culture GGG is seen as a great white hope, who only fought bums in order to get that certain demo hyped up. That demo was hyping up a boxer who had 19 ko's, but we had a HEAVYWEIGHT who knocked out 30+ in a row, but no credit from those same people, people see thru these things, or perceived things...we notice the bigots in boxing and on this board so he is not gonna be a star because of the bigots noticeable attitude toward Floyd/ the heavyweight champion, so its a kinda Karma.
                Nope to your joshua question he needs more big fights. No one knows who joshua is. Thats my guess
                Last edited by HURTFEELINGS; 09-26-2017, 05:41 PM.

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                • nveleven
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                  #48
                  Just like PPV buys, this is an outmoded metric.
                  With the exception of mega events, PPV is a dead model.
                  Expect Jon Jones v Brock Lesner in 2019, Canelo/GGG rematch & McGregor/Diaz III both in 2018.
                  That's about it.
                  Maybe Cyborg v Ronda if they can get her to agree to be concussed once more for loot.
                  Anyway, boxing has maybe 500,000 super fans (if that), in the U.S. And it is fading fast.
                  Recall that casuals make events massive (Kentucky derby, big fight, super bowl, The Masters, World Cup, Wimbledon, etc...)
                  Yes, lots of people tune in, but what percentage of the millions actually give a **** about the outcome?, or are just showing up for the party.
                  It's why crowds at live events are often dead. Casuals are there to check-in and/or "the firm had tickets".

                  Point being, these numbers mean **** all anymore. You can't trust the PPV figures bc it ignores illegal streams, and people who've watched specific rounds/highlight reels aren't counted in that figure.
                  This is big from an advertisers viewpoint. Think about how many times Tecate or Hublot has been seared into people's brains? This makes 4.4 million seem like a ****** metric.

                  The PPV model is dying a quick death without a significant overhaul.

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                  • Mammoth
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                    #49
                    I blame Coolhand Luke

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                    • Nomadic
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                      #50
                      I honestly had Canelo for the win if it went to decision, why pay for it? The fact that it was a draw, makes it worst.

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