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  • Thraxox
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    Who is greater, Andre Ward or Timothy Bradley?

    Both 1-1 in the Ams

    Bradley Resume : Long Reigning unified LW, WBC, WBO, The Ring and Lineal Champion from 2008-2011, and then becoming the WBO welterweight champion from 2012-2014, and then retaining the WBO through default. With having the likes of Manny Pacquiao, Juan Manuel Marquez, Ruslan Provodnikov, Lamont Peterson, Jessie Vargas, Devon Alexander, Nate Campbell, Junior Witter, Luis Abregu, Kendall Holt, Joel Casamayor, Brandon Rios.

    Controversy: Majority believes Pacquiao wins the first fight.

    Ward Resume: Wins the super six to be the Unified WBC-WBA And Lineal SMW from 2009-2012. And then Wins the LHW WBA, WBO, IBF LHW albeit contreversially. And then Wins the rematch by another controversial event, before retiring at a record of 32-0. With Having the likes of Sergey Kovalev, Carl Froch, Barrera, Mikkel Kessler, Sakio Bika, Arthur Abraham, Chad Dawson.

    Contreversy: Majority Believes Kovalev won the first fight, and the rematch was was considered to be scored in low blows, and the Mikkel Kessler head buts.
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    I say Tim Bradley because I'm a Pactürd.

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      #3
      Originally posted by Beercules
      I say Tim Bradley because I'm a Pactürd.
      Probably because Tim is a coon. Brad has the better resume also.

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      • uppercut510
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        Ward, bradley was good at 140, a bit overrated at ww, didnt do much. Tough, with heart, and likable but not greater than ward

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        • eco1
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          I would say that in time people will only look at the numbers and say Ward.
          Ward lost only one and was given a gift. He is dirty, but good at that.

          Bradley has a good resumé but also lost to Pac and was given a gift.
          But at least he is not a dirty fighter.

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            #6
            Originally posted by Thraxox
            Both 1-1 in the Ams

            Bradley Resume : Long Reigning unified LW, WBC, WBO, The Ring and Lineal Champion from 2008-2011, and then becoming the WBO welterweight champion from 2012-2014, and then retaining the WBO through default. With having the likes of Manny Pacquiao, Juan Manuel Marquez, Ruslan Provodnikov, Lamont Peterson, Jessie Vargas, Devon Alexander, Nate Campbell, Junior Witter, Luis Abregu, Kendall Holt, Joel Casamayor, Brandon Rios.

            Controversy: Majority believes Pacquiao wins the first fight.

            Ward Resume: Wins the super six to be the Unified WBC-WBA And Lineal SMW from 2009-2012. And then Wins the LHW WBA, WBO, IBF LHW albeit contreversially. And then Wins the rematch by another controversial event, before retiring at a record of 32-0. With Having the likes of Sergey Kovalev, Carl Froch, Barrera, Mikkel Kessler, Sakio Bika, Arthur Abraham, Chad Dawson.

            Contreversy: Majority Believes Kovalev won the first fight, and the rematch was was considered to be scored in low blows, and the Mikkel Kessler head buts.
            I'm gonna say Ward and it's really not a debate to me. Their resume's are both good but when you watch them it's clear Andre was the much more skilled and complete fighter. Bradley had skill but won a lot of his fights due to "grit" for example the Alexander and Witter fights he just outworked them. Ward on the other hand dominated top guys and made it look easy. That's very hard to do.

            Plus Bradley had several controversial fights you could argue he lost. For example you could argue he should've lost to Pacquiao 3 times, Provodnikov, Marquez and he also had a draw with Chavez. Obviously Pacquiao and Marquez are the best names on his resume and I thought he didn't beat either of them so I gotta give it to Ward. Kessler, Froch, Dawson, Rodriguez, Kovalev. These are all top guys who he beat handily and most of them were easy work for him. Bradley was very good but I never thought he was really "ELITE" where as there was one point where Ward was considered p4p#1 and just a notch below Floyd which says a lot.

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              #7
              Originally posted by JK1700
              I'm gonna say Ward and it's really not a debate to me. Their resume's are both good but when you watch them it's clear Andre was the much more skilled and complete fighter. Bradley had skill but won a lot of his fights due to "grit" for example the Alexander and Witter fights he just outworked them. Ward on the other hand dominated top guys and made it look easy. That's very hard to do.

              Plus Bradley had several controversial fights you could argue he lost. For example you could argue he should've lost to Pacquiao 3 times, Provodnikov, Marquez and he also had a draw with Chavez. Obviously Pacquiao and Marquez are the best names on his resume and I thought he didn't beat either of them so I gotta give it to Ward. Kessler, Froch, Dawson, Rodriguez, Kovalev. These are all top guys who he beat handily and most of them were easy work for him. Bradley was very good but I never thought he was really "ELITE" where as there was one point where Ward was considered p4p#1 and just a notch below Floyd which says a lot.
              Man you can say that to Ward about Kovalev. The only person Bradley ever lost to was an ATG in Pacquiao and the rest where either dominated or just couldn't do anything. So don't tell me Bradley isn't elite when his career and resume say otherwise.

              And no, Bradley didn't have "several" controversial fights, Majority scored the Marquez vS Provodnikov fight to Bradley, more than 50% more. His only contreversial decision is Pacquiao I

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                Ward but I always enjoyed Bradley more.

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                  #9
                  Originally posted by pacmanis1
                  Ward but I always enjoyed Bradley more.
                  I think so. Both are HoF that is for sure.

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                  • Jimmy 23
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                    #10
                    Originally posted by Beercules
                    I say Tim Bradley because I'm an idiot.
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