Who do the soviet bloc boxers usually have better jabs than American boxers?

[iamboxing]

I have and unfortunately, none of them have jabs that are / where anywhere near as good as the jabs of Wladimir Klitschko or Gennady Golovkin.

Furthermore, they're (American's) jabs are weak, feather-fisted looking punches. On the other hand, the Soviet Bloc boxers can actually jab with power.

How dare you...

The Holmes jab is the greatest jab in boxing history and has never been bettered. He was like a surgeon. Even a beast like Foreman who relied on sheer power had a better jab than those you mentioned.

[Mr Objecitivity]

How dare you...

The Holmes jab is the greatest jab in boxing history and has never been bettered. He was like a surgeon. Even a beast like Foreman who relied on sheer power had a better jab than those you mentioned.

Nope, Larry Holmes's jab was never better than peak Wladimir Klitschko's jab. It was never as powerful, nor was it ever as good at managing distance as Wladimir Klitschko's jab is.

Again, check the stats for number of jabs landed, plus percentage of jabs landed, plus number of rounds won and loss throughout career, plus number of punches taken. I can confidently predict that Wladimir Klitschko would come out on top in all those departments, compared to Larry Holmes. There is a reason why Larry Holmes is punch drunk and stutters, whilst Wladimir Klitschko has a PHD and has most of his health intact.

[Sledgeweather17]

Wladimir Klitschko is called 'one dimensional' with no head movement, body punching, combinations, uppercuts and inside fighting. Yet, the fact that he has dominated the heavyweight division unlike anybody else has in the past with just his jab alone, means that his jab has to be better than all of those fools combined.

Why does Floyd Mayweather Jr need to do all those other things if his jab was so good? Same applies for Errol Spence and Jermall Charlo?

Wladimir Klitschko with his jab alone, gets hit less than any of those fools, plus has the ability to inflict far greater damage on his opponents whilst taking less relative to those aforementioned fools. That is, with just his jab and his 'LIMITED' style.

Yet, Floyd Mayweather Jr, Errol Spence Jr and Charlo with all of their completeness and versatility compared to Wlad, still get hit more and still aren't anywhere near as good as Wlad offensively.

Let that sink in!

They get hit more than the guy who has been knocked out 4 or more times, and knocked down more than 10 times in his career? Whereas they don't even a single loss or knockdown against them in their career?

Man you gotta share your secret with the rest of us, coz whatever it is that you're on has gotta be the best shieet ever.

[Mr Objecitivity]

They get hit more than the guy who has been knocked out 4 or more times, and knocked down more than 10 times in his career? Whereas they don't even a single loss or knockdown against them in their career?

Man you gotta share your secret with the rest of us, coz whatever it is that you're on has gotta be the best shieet ever.

Wladimir Klitschko has had nearly as many fights as both Ward and Mayweather combined. Let them have the same number of fights and then we'll see if they can still go unbeaten.

So what if Wladimir Klitschko got knocked down or out a few times? By that logic, Golovkin has a better defense than Bernard Hopkins since Golovkin has never been dropped or knocked down whilst Hopkins has? Do you see the logical flaw in this argument .

Wladimir Klitschko from 2005 until 2014 has had the greatest defense ever seen in the history of boxing, bar none. Especially in the heavyweight division.

[charliepaerker]

Whilst Wladimir Klitschko with his jab alone, achieved more feats than Ward or Floyd did using more 'MOVES' or 'TACTICS'.

The ONLY time Wlad's jab was neutralized, was against Fury, where he was close to 40 years of age against an opponent that is over 10 years younger, whilst Wlad was significantly past his peak. None of those other boxers neutralized Wlad's jab.

Fury was the ONLY guy to neutralize his jab? Yet Sanders and Brewster stopped him. And Peters dropped him multiple times. Which means the jab was rendered USELESS

[JAB5239]

For example, boxers like Wladimir Klitschko, Sergey Kovalev, Gennady Golovkin, Kostya Tszyu and etc. They all have superior jabs than pretty much any American boxer. Wladimir Klitschko's jab alone is better than the jab of any American boxer in history.

Yet, somehow American boxers are supposedly superior 'skilled' boxers or 'technicians'? Isn't the jab one of the most important foundation to being a 'skilled' boxer or a 'technician'?

Wlad certainly had a very good jab. But I'd rate Holmes, Louis, Ali and Liston as having better jabs. Maybe Gene Tunney's as well.

[Mr Objecitivity]

Wlad certainly had a very good jab. But I'd rate Holmes, Louis, Ali and Liston as having better jabs. Maybe Gene Tunney's as well.

For me, it's the opposite. Statistically, Wladimir Klitschko has lost fewer rounds compared to any past heavyweight in history, which is mainly a testament to his jab. Furthermore, Wladimir Klitschko has statistically some of the greatest jabs landed, plus jabs connect percentage in history of not just heavyweight boxing, but boxing PERIOD! From what I've seen, no other heavyweight took as fewer punches as Wladimir Klitschko has with the jab being the primary defensive tool.

[Mr Objecitivity]

Fury was the ONLY guy to neutralize his jab? Yet Sanders and Brewster stopped him. And Peters dropped him multiple times. Which means the jab was rendered USELESS

So what if they stopped him? Have you considered the possibility that there were other factors involved which may have caused those stoppages excluding the jab? Cherry picking one or two fights from a career spanning 69 professional bouts to prove a point makes your argument appear redundant. It is heavyweight boxing! Anybody can get knocked out if they get hit by a power punch with sufficient force. Having the greatest jab or defense becomes irrelevant. Unless, the defense and jab is 100% active 100% of the time, which is impossible since boxers are humans and nobody can be 100% 100% of the time.

All of Samuel Peter's knockdowns were based on illegal punches. Thus, they were irrelevant. Plus, outside those knockdowns, Wladimir Klitschko dominated Peter with his jab whilst rarely taking any 'LEGAL' punches.

[Lester Tutor]

For example, boxers like Wladimir Klitschko, Sergey Kovalev, Gennady Golovkin, Kostya Tszyu and etc. They all have superior jabs than pretty much any American boxer. Wladimir Klitschko's jab alone is better than the jab of any American boxer in history.

Yet, somehow American boxers are supposedly superior 'skilled' boxers or 'technicians'? Isn't the jab one of the most important foundation to being a 'skilled' boxer or a 'technician'?

interesting how all these JAB boys only rocked 1 division....

[Mr Objecitivity]

interesting how all these JAB boys only rocked 1 division....

Interesting that heavyweight division > all other weight divisions.

Therefore, interestingly, Wladimir Klitschko's jab > jabs of any other boxers from any other weight division, outside the heavyweight division.

By default, any boxer that can dominate the heavyweight division, is dominating and can dominate any other weight division. Period! Heavyweight division is the ultimate weight division in boxing. Unlike a bunch of mini Mayweathers, or Canelos, or Golovkins and etc. from insignificantly lower weight divisions.