Why Was Maidanas Dirty Fighting Applauded???

[Floyd is TBE]

You know why

[GhostofDempsey]

Maidana was no more dirty than Floyd. Mayweather loves to use forearms and elbows, clinches, pushes off, etc. Floyd got out-hustled and cried to the ref like a b!tch though. Even after threatening to cancel the fight over legal gloves that Marcos wanted to wear. Same gloves he wore in previous fights.

[ADP02]

Your post is somewhat confusing.

You bring up Maidana as a dirty fighter then when you bring up other names you say "what's the big deal?"

So then why did you bring up Maidana?


Maidana dirty:
While I think the ref should call both sides, there is a point that must be made. Maidana dirty, often doesn't change the outcome of the fight. Kicking, biting, tripping, pushing at a point where it was not meant to stop the opponent from using his offense is quite different than using illegal tactics to stop your opponent from his offense.

Ward dirty: There is meaning to his dirty play. It's to stop his opponent from countering effectively. Stopping his opponent from punching. If done right, can be called a punch instead of what it was (elbow, head but)!
It can injure the opponent in a way that can change the fight (eg. head but producing cuts over the eyes)!

Ward often throws HIS PUNCH then HOLDs ON to his opponent or ELBOWS his opponent. This dissuades or removes any possibility of countering.


Ward's dirty play changes outcomes of a fight. Also takes away from the fight's action and so on. Maidana's type of dirty play more often than not just gets him points deducted!!!


Go look at Ward vs Kessler fight for example. Kessler was a mess due to Ward's head-buts. Cuts over both eyes and no points deducted.


In their fight, Floyd gives Maidana obvious back to back elbows at Maidana and no points deducted ... Minutes later, Maidana trips up a Floyd that was off balance perhaps and gets a point deducted. Showtime analysts didn't even think that there should have been a point deducted.

Ref said after the fight that he had recently in a previous fight deducted 2 points in 1 fight on Maidana and was ready to deduct points on Maidana. Same ref closes his eyes to Floyd's past elbows, head-locks, forearms, hugs.


As I said in another thread. It's a 10 point system. Refs should use that to deduct points and then you would see BOTH types of fighters reduce their dirty tactics .... but as I stated, right now, only the Maidanas get points deducted.


Ward instead won using those tactics!!!


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u guys are pathetic

You can at the very least explain .... unless you just wanted all of us to just agree with you.


Maidana gets his share of points deducted. Ward?




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[uppercut510]

You can at the very least explain .... unless you just wanted all of us to just agree with you.


Maidana gets his share of points deducted. Ward?




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point was, everyone was okay with it n applauded it and said he should have won. the fact he didn't win isn't the point, ur complaining about ward being dirty yet when it was maidana it was amazing??? what is there to explain? all u guys are going to do is what this guy did. be unfair and unreasonable. hard to understand how boxing fans spend all their lifes bashing boxers. I favor particular styles but overall I respect them all because ive actually trained and fought before, its not easy at all and the level of disrespect you all show these professionals is beyond tacky.

[REMOVE SHARK 55]

I feel like a broken record repeating the same **** to both sides. Low blows, dirty fighting. This is the pro game. You lot and the GGG/PAC boys are so annoying. Man the **** up, seriously!.

If the referee doesn't call it get on with it. Protect yourself at all times. Boxing's been around for thousands of years. Dark arts have been used through the ages.

[ADP02]

point was, everyone was okay with it n applauded it and said he should have won. the fact he didn't win isn't the point, ur complaining about ward being dirty yet when it was maidana it was amazing??? what is there to explain? all u guys are going to do is what this guy did. be unfair and unreasonable. hard to understand how boxing fans spend all their lifes bashing boxers. I favor particular styles but overall I respect them all because ive actually trained and fought before, its not easy at all and the level of disrespect you all show these professionals is beyond tacky.

What people liked about Maidana is that he was supposed to be a cherry pick (lost the cherry picking contest to Khan but Floyd still picked him) but he actually came to fight. It wasn't about Maidana's dirty tactics ... nobody was saying, kick Floyd with your knees which by the way, never hit Floyd! Nobody congratulated Maidana when he got him to the ground. nor did they care for biting Floyd's hand, if that happened in their second encounter.

People were just impressed with how he dominated those rounds where he threw a volume of punches in Floyd's direction.


What happened is that Floyd and his fans complained about Maidana's dirty tactics and that for the rematch, they needed a ref that was ready to deduct points from Maidana. The response was as expected.
because,
Floyd does his share and does not get points deducted and had advantages going into the fight (removed Maidana's gloves) ...


but as I had stated in that post, if Maidana should get a point deducted, cool ... no problem. So your original response was uncalled for.


Here is Floyd doing this (elbow and according to Maidana an illegal punch) and Floyd gets warned for the elbow (good) BUT just seconds later, Floyd did it again flagrantly but no points deducted. Minutes later, Maidana gets a point deducted. Floyd fans are OK with that. Right?




Seconds later, Floyd does it again flagrantly but no points deducted!

[ADP02]

I feel like a broken record repeating the same **** to both sides. Low blows, dirty fighting. This is the pro game. You lot and the GGG/PAC boys are so annoying. Man the **** up, seriously!.

If the referee doesn't call it get on with it. Protect yourself at all times. Boxing's been around for thousands of years. Dark arts have been used through the ages.

Floyd and his fans were crying after Maidana I fight. The poster above you even brings it up. If the VEGAS judges fairly gave Maidana his credit, Floyd and his fans would still be complaining that Maidana won or got a draw due to Maidana's dirty tactics.

Floyd and his fans were hoping to get a different ref for fight 2, so the ref can protect the fragile Floyd and deduct points from Maidana. They got what they wanted .... even the point deduction!!!

[JK1700]

At 5:14 Maidana throws a Muay-Thai knee and gets away with it!

But since it's Floyd he was just "not taking no for an answer"

Imagine if Mayweather or Ward did that in a fight.

People would be crying and complaining left and right.

[ADP02]

At 5:14 Maidana throws a Muay-Thai knee and gets away with it!

But since it's Floyd he was just "not taking no for an answer"

Imagine if Mayweather or Ward did that in a fight.

People would be crying and complaining left and right.

I cannot view the video but I'm presuming that it didn't hurt or even connect, right?

Or you want Floyd's opponents to be deducted points even when they do not touch Floyd? A La, Ricky Hatton?



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[Bigg Rigg]

Cuz nobody really likes Floyd at the end of day