Why Was Maidanas Dirty Fighting Applauded???
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You didn't answer the question. lol. Come on, dude. Maidana went far and beyond in the dirty department in that fight.
Why does it matter if he butted to a win. The point is he TRIED TO head butt, low blow, rabbit punch, bite, knee, arm bend, and whatever else dirty to win. Did he not?
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Forgot that football tackle
Last edited by travestyny; 09-22-2017, 08:26 AM.Comment
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Holyfield & Hopkins are two others who were dirty. I prefer the term "veteran tactics". Maidana was just flat out dirty. Dude tried to straight up knee Floyd. Nothing veteran about those tactics.Comment
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Very well said.I hate to bring up the race card but that's the reason for the hypocrisy.
When Maidana was dirty it was "Wow he's so aggressive and rugged!"
When Ward landed a low blow or held and hit people said "He only wins because he's dirty". It's total hypocrisy and I don't think Ward was a dirty fighter. It's just that he was always fighting on the inside so there was bound to be head-clashes and sometimes holding and hitting. I remember an interview with him where he said he doesn't want to do these things but if the opponent does it he will do it back. Which I think is understandable. Obviously it's not why he was successful, that's total BS. It takes a lot more than that and Ward was a complete fighter.
People also didn't criticize Maidana for being dirty because he was doing it to Floyd and obviously a lot of people hate Floyd so they just wanted to see him lose. Didn't matter if the guy bit him, threw muay-thai style knees or whatever. It's Floyd so he got a pass. People knew he was dirty and breaking the rules but they didn't care.Comment
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maidana is a super limited fighter. all he does is punch hard and have a good chin and power to recover.
ward is not. he does everything but punch exceptionally well.
of course it's going to rub people the wrong way when an elite guy who doesn't have to resort to headbutts or low blows is headbutting or low blowing. i mean FFS the guy literally ended the fight with a blatant low blow. for some reason that doesn't compute with some people
. he was landing other punches doe. he a better fighter doe. not f#cking relevant doe! it was a low blow.... doe!
no, we shouldn't excuse maidana, but we should get a better idea of why he was rough on the ropes with floyd. he had to be to get anything done.
ward could have finished the kovalev fight cleanly. but he low blowed and the fight was called off. blame the ref primarily. weeks f#cked up big time, and he knows it.
that he's been so insulated from scrutiny is a vegas thing and a boxing thing. can you imagine a championship level event ending in a foul in another sport and the ref being so protected from scrutiny? correct me if i am wrong, but has the commission even admitted that the fight was stopped on a foul?Comment
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i did answer your question, they were both dirty, not just maidana. OP comparing marcos dirtiness to ward's is silly.You didn't answer the question. lol. Come on, dude. Maidana went far and beyond in the dirty department in that fight.
Why does it matter if he butted to a win. The point is he TRIED TO head butt, low blow, rabbit punch, bite, knee, arm bend, and whatever else dirty to win. Did he not?
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Number of reasons IMO. Obviously, its part Floyd. Posters could care less what is done so long as Floyd loses or is in close enough so they can claim the other guy won and floyd has really lost.In his first fight with Floyd Jr??? The majority of you all had him winning the fight and he fought dirty as hell and was urged on by his trainer to fight dirty... But now that one of the greats of our time is retiring all we see is threads complaining about how dirty he was from the same posters who took this stance?
Harry Greb was dirty but great as were alot of the greats were... Henry Armstrong, Muhammad Ali, Jack Dempsey, George Foreman, etc all had dirt in their arsenal... Whats the big deal?
part of it is Ward retired undefeated so the only way fans of the guys he beat can get back at him is to focus just on the headbutts and lowblows and make them play more significance than they really did.
Part of it is the guys criticizing Ward are doing so for reasons we both know. If we call these posters out then we are "race baiting".
Part of it is trolling Ward fans.Comment
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You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to New England again.maidana is a super limited fighter. all he does is punch hard and have a good chin and power to recover.
ward is not. he does everything but punch exceptionally well.
of course it's going to rub people the wrong way when an elite guy who doesn't have to resort to headbutts or low blows is headbutting or low blowing. i mean FFS the guy literally ended the fight with a blatant low blow. for some reason that doesn't compute with some people
. he was landing other punches doe. he a better fighter doe. not f#cking relevant doe! it was a low blow.... doe!
no, we shouldn't excuse maidana, but we should get a better idea of why he was rough on the ropes with floyd. he had to be to get anything done.
ward could have finished the kovalev fight cleanly. but he low blowed and the fight was called off. blame the ref primarily. weeks f#cked up big time, and he knows it.
that he's been so insulated from scrutiny is a vegas thing and a boxing thing. can you imagine a championship level event ending in a foul in another sport and the ref being so protected from scrutiny? correct me if i am wrong, but has the commission even admitted that the fight was stopped on a foul?
Just know i tried to Green K ya lolComment
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Wasn't even that dirty, the only gripe I have with it is some rabbit punches. Dirty is Horn vs Pacquiao, Sanchez vs Pacquiao, Ward vs an assortment of foes, Salido vs Lomachenko.
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