Will Ward be remembered as a CHEATER and DUCKER?

[BrometheusBob.]

Those aren't my sentiments. I said, HIS FANS will believe wins over those opponents will count as elites and A-class opposition. His detractors will not.

My fault I actually deleted my post because I realized I misread your post.

Anyway, I still think it's hard to say he doesn't have an A-list of names on his resume. If you don't like the way in which he earned those victories fine, but you can't call em bums now

[Tomjas]

He will in my mind, what about yours?

Thank you for your time

No but thanks for asking

[The Big Dunn]

Look at this thread look who is the most vociferous about Ward-mlac, ghostofdempsey,dramshow. What are they best known for in this forum?

I mean does anyone really think the majority of rational fans are going to have the same opinions as these guys?

[BrometheusBob.]

semantics bruh.

My broader point was you (not specifically you) pick and choose when to use the boxing writers/journalists opinions When it suits the narrative.

Ignore the fact they scored the the fight to kovalev, thats just opinion man, what do they know anyway? look they all say hes p4p no.1 look!

Fair enough I suppose. I think a 70/30 split on the winner of a fight is a little different than the biggest media p4p lists having the same guy as #1 I guess.

[The Big Dunn]

People don't call him like that bcz people who don't box write those articles and the casual fans fail to notice what he is doing. When a boxer jabs you see what kind of a jab is that (low, high, stiff, flick..) but someone who doesn't box just thinks that a punch is thrown.

Dude, seriously in no other aspect of your life would you use a doctored, biased video made by a disgruntled fan as the foundation for your argument. At least I do not think you would.

So here, with all due respect, you are trying to convince me that videos like this will shape how you see ward?

The only people who will give these videos any credence are people who already have an agenda and are looking for validation.

Put it like this-if I post a video that says Floyd Mayweather was a nice guy that didn't beat women and was falsely accused, you think that going to shift public opinion? Of course not.

[Szef]

None of his wins were surrounded in controversy. Controversy is when the media questions a bad verdict. A bunch of butthurt bigots (not you) and non Americans whining and going out of their way to denigrate and downplay Ward's wins in internet forums isn't "controversy".

If that is how you choose to remember him, Then you are ******ed, Szef.

edit: it just seems crazy that a fight like Kessler, which has all but been forgotten by most, wil somehow shape how Ward is seen.

This is the thing, I didn't choose to remember him this way, he did it for me.

And by contrevery I mean his dirty tactics such as headbutts, hitting people with elbows, ending fights on low blows.

He is the one who did all those things. I just choose to not to ignore it.

[nacho daddy]

None of his wins were surrounded in controversy. Controversy is when the media questions a bad verdict. A bunch of butthurt bigots (not you) and non Americans whining and going out of their way to denigrate and downplay Ward's wins in internet forums isn't "controversy".

If that is how you choose to remember him, Then you are ******ed, Szef.

edit: it just seems crazy that a fight like Kessler, which has all but been forgotten by most, wil somehow shape how Ward is seen.

everybody to you black panthers is a bigot white supremacist **** if we don't bow down to blacks and say they are the greatest humans ever put on earth. go to hell you and your ****** s h it

[b00g13man]

#WardRuinsLives

[mlac]

This is the thing, I didn't choose to remember him this way, he did it for me.

And by contrevery I mean his dirty tactics such as headbutts, hitting people with elbows, ending fights on low blows.

He is the one who did all those things. I just choose to not to ignore it.

'none of his wins were shrouded in controversy'

why are you even bothering to debate this level of ******ation ?

Its not like he can even coherently construct a post without name calling or saying everyone is a bigot or racist if you dont share his delusional opinion.

absolute lunatic lol.

[The Big Dunn]

This is the thing, I didn't choose to remember him this way, he did it for me.

And by contrevery I mean his dirty tactics such as headbutts, hitting people with elbows, ending fights on low blows.

He is the one who did all those things. I just choose to not to ignore it.

If you say so. It defies logic that you will remember such minor blips in a career that had so many accomplishments.

Like you will remember a headbutt more than you will the Froch fight? You will remember an obscure elbow from 8 years ago more than the Dawson TKO. You will remember a borderline body punch more than the hard right he landed that dazed Kov?