Prime Floyd Mayweather vs Prime Paul Williams at 147

[WesternChamp]

Just wish you guys discussed the real paul williams and didn't elevate him when the subject is a Floyd fight. Then again, every fighter gets ridiculously elevated when you guys discuss them fighting Floyd.

Larry may be overbearing but at least his threads are honest and factual.

take floyd out and put manny in. now P.wills is a beast right? p4p #1.

[The Big Dunn]

take floyd out and put manny in. now P.wills is a beast right? p4p #1.

People don't make threads about Pwill v Manny because Manny has lost to fighters people perceive as less dangerous than PWill.

Floyd is superior to Manny. Manny isn't as good a defensive or inside fighter. Manny is no where near as good a boxer or has as high a ring IQ.

Besides, No one really asks about beating #2. Regardless of who won the pwill v manny fantasy fight, that fight would only be to determine Floyd's #1 challenger.

[djtmal]

then complains when others make a thread on floyd that doesnt fit his agenda. LOL

Exactly...............

[WesternChamp]

People don't make threads about Pwill v Manny because Manny has lost to fighters people perceive as less dangerous than PWill.

Floyd is superior to Manny. Manny isn't as good a defensive or inside fighter. Manny is no where near as good a boxer or has as high a ring IQ.

Besides, No one really asks about beating #2. Regardless of who won the pwill v manny fantasy fight, that fight would only be to determine Floyd's #1 challenger.

see this is what i mean LOL!!!

this is not about floyd vs manny or who is more superior

[djtmal]

Yes you are. PWill didn't fight his height. He was notorious for fighting in a way that negated his height.

When talking about PWill people bring up every fight except Quintana 1 and Lara. People also forget to discuss Martinez 1 where the 3rd card was 119-110 while the other 2 were 114-114 and 115-113. Sound familiar?

Most of you act like Margarito was how he fought his whole career.

So saying Williams is taller, but didn't fight his height is "overexaggerating" him now?

What was Williams 6'2"? What is Floyd 5'8" tops? If Williams fought in a crouch on his knees he'd be a problem for Floyd. I am exaggerating that, but you get my point.

[GhostofDempsey]

If Floyd would have hesitated to fight this guy it would only be due to his notoroious hand injuries.

When you fight guys that big you need to be able to put everything behind your punches to keep them at bay and you need volume.

Floyd decreased both his volume and the force he puts behind each punch in order to preserve his hands over the course of his fights.

In the Judah fight he had to punch through the pain in order to get the victory, Ghost and Marquez were ready to go but he had to let off the pressure a little because his hands were hurting.

Baldomir was ready to go but Floyd had to fight the last three rounds with one arm (literally, he was literally using just one arm for the last three rounds, go watch it and see for yourself).

Against Carlos Henandez Floyd took a knee because of a hand injury in the fourth round, and fought the rest of the fight in the southpaw stance because he had no choice due to the pain in his right hand.

Just imagine how tough as nails you gotta be to have the kind of career he had with the kind of hand issues this guy had.

So long as we're speculating, there is also the overlooked injecting of Lidocaine and Xylocaine into his delicate hands.

[Bravado]

I laugh because at the end of the day? No guy who let Carlos Quintana outbox him loses.

[djtmal]

see this is what i mean LOL!!!

this is not about floyd vs manny or who is more superior

that was truly pathetic.............

this site needs a captain sav-a-floyd section...

[djtmal]

If Floyd would have hesitated to fight this guy it would only be due to his notoroious hand injuries.

When you fight guys that big you need to be able to put everything behind your punches to keep them at bay and you need volume.

Floyd decreased both his volume and the force he puts behind each punch in order to preserve his hands over the course of his fights.

In the Judah fight he had to punch through the pain in order to get the victory, Ghost and Marquez were ready to go but he had to let off the pressure a little because his hands were hurting.

Baldomir was ready to go but Floyd had to fight the last three rounds with one arm (literally, he was literally using just one arm for the last three rounds, go watch it and see for yourself).

Against Carlos Henandez Floyd took a knee because of a hand injury in the fourth round, and fought the rest of the fight in the southpaw stance because he had no choice due to the pain in his right hand.

Just imagine how tough as nails you gotta be to have the kind of career he had with the kind of hand issues this guy had.

so i guess to ask floyd to fight a high risk, no reward fight or fighter is disrespectful...

the question i have is, if your brittle hands are going to be the excuse, why fight...take up knitting if your hands are going to be the issue...

[RussB23]

Floyd by being the better fighter.