Would you consider Pacquiao one of the best offensive fighters of all time?

[Boxing Goat]

Roy picked his shots, would lead sometimes and countered sometimes but by no means was he an offensive gunblazer like manny or Tyson or pryor or Armstrong

Now you're trying to finagle the criteria to suit your ignorant first response to me in order to try and save face.

You should go back to the very first post I was responding to and read that again.

Thanks. By bye now.

[The Big Dunn]

he didnt refuse, it was floyd. he counter floyd's demand by asking for a cut off. whether you like it or not, he was pretty much the a-side as much as floyd is during this time.

why ask for a random testing when you've been calling that fighter easy work and easy money? why didnt sr demand testing for the hatton fight? shiiet if i remember correctly, sr. was dissing pac during the hatton fight LOL. no worry about peds then.

Come on dude. You gotta be honest. he refused. You can debate why he did, but you can't deny he did.

Floyd and his father questioned Manny's PED use and asked for testing for both Floyd and Manny. Not a valid reason to refuse.

I'm fine if you think ODH and Manny would beat Floyd, you can't pretend they didn't refuse to fight him during this period. There was a reason why.

IMO it's because they knew they couldn't beat him. Do you have a reason?

[Thraxox]

I remember that was a thing, when people would consider Pacquiao the greatest offensive fighter ever in 2009/10 which I found laughable, then the greatest offensive southpaw which again I didn't agree with. Pacquiao is one of the greatest because he was unique with his approach, his angles but at the same time its difficult to ignore that he couldn't operate on the inside, didn't have much of a body attack, versatile jab or lead right hook.

Pac has great body attack in the lower weights but not in bunches but rather strong single shots on the right hook whenever the opponent forces its guard up from Manny's attack upstairs.

[WesternChamp]

Come on dude. You gotta be honest. he refused. You can debate why he did, but you can't deny he did.

Floyd and his father questioned Manny's PED use and asked for testing for both Floyd and Manny. Not a valid reason to refuse.

I'm fine if you think ODH and Manny would beat Floyd, you can't pretend they didn't refuse to fight him during this period. There was a reason why.

IMO it's because they knew they couldn't beat him.

he didnt refuse he asked for a cut off, floyd refused, that's why its called negotiating. what is your definition of that? what floyd says go? lol.

and if team manny was the one that didnt want the fight, why did they ask for it in the first place? it was team manny that wanted floyd not the other way around.

why didnt sr and floyd question his ped use when he slept hatton in 2???? shouldnt that rise an eyebrow for them? it was after the cotto fight that they started accusing pac. now asked yourself why?

[djtmal]

i like to remind them every now and then lol..

they didnt accuse pac when he fought hatton, why didnt sr asked for random testing then? even after pac flatlined hatton, the mayweathers didnt accuse him. it was after the cotto fight that they couldnt believe what they were seeing.

it was obvious to me that the mayweathers didn't want no parts of that version...

[BoxingTrav]

he didnt refuse he asked for a cut off, floyd refused, that's why its called negotiating. what is your definition of that? what floyd says go? lol.

and if team manny was the one that didnt want the fight, why did they ask for it in the first place? it was team manny that wanted floyd not the other way around.

why didnt sr and floyd question his ped use when he slept hatton in 2???? shouldnt that rise an eyebrow for them? it was after the cotto fight that they started accusing pac. now asked yourself why?

“I think people will say why didn’t they fight each other, and blame both guys to be honest with you. Because the first negotiation we were against the blood test, and it was kinda our fault that the first time it didn’t work. Then it came to a point where we accepted that later on. I think it’s both guys.”

Guess who?

[WesternChamp]

“I think people will say why didn’t they fight each other, and blame both guys to be honest with you. Because the first negotiation we were against the blood test, and it was kinda our fault that the first time it didn’t work. Then it came to a point where we accepted that later on. I think it’s both guys.”

Guess who?

yeah they wanted a cut off. which i explained in my earlier post.

[The Big Dunn]

he didnt refuse he asked for a cut off, floyd refused, that's why its called negotiating. what is your definition of that? what floyd says go? lol.

and if team manny was the one that didnt want the fight, why did they ask for it in the first place? it was team manny that wanted floyd not the other way around.

why didnt sr and floyd question his ped use when he slept hatton in 2???? shouldnt that rise an eyebrow for them? it was after the cotto fight that they started accusing pac. now asked yourself why?

No matter what the reason Floyd sr asked for testing, both guys would be tested. Manny refused. Then he refused the cutoff requests. You can't change this. So you deny it.

You will not admit the truth because you know once you do, you will be asked why you think a guy you feel would beat Floyd easily refused to fight him. That is a tough question for anyone to answer.

I'm fine with whatever opinion you and others have about ODH and Manny beating Floyd. All I ask is you be honest that they refused to fight him during this period.

You have never been, nor will ever be, man enough to just admit Manny refused the fight during this period. You keep trying to justify it through semantics and cloaking his refusal in "negotiations".

[djtmal]

“I think people will say why didn’t they fight each other, and blame both guys to be honest with you. Because the first negotiation we were against the blood test, and it was kinda our fault that the first time it didn’t work. Then it came to a point where we accepted that later on. I think it’s both guys.”

Guess who?

freddie roach, would sell his moms out, for a check, true definition of a flip flopper...

[WesternChamp]

No matter what the reason Floyd sr asked for testing, both guys would be tested. Manny refused. Then he refused the cutoff requests. You can't change this. So you deny it.

You will not admit the truth because you know once you do, you will be asked why you think a guy you feel would beat Floyd easily refused to fight him. That is a tough question for anyone to answer.

I'm fine with whatever opinion you and others have about ODH and Manny beating Floyd. All I ask is you be honest that they refused to fight him during this period.

You have never been, nor will ever be, man enough to just admit Manny refused the fight during this period. You keep trying to justify it through semantics and cloaking his refusal in "negotiations".

did i say only manny was gonna be tested? manny wanted a cut off, he explained his reasons, floyd refuse, yet its manny's fault?

why didnt sr ask for testing for the hatton fight? why did they only ask for it after the cotto fight? did they see some thing in that fight? why didnt they accuse pac after he slept hatton in 2? like it or not, but the mayweathers saw some thing in that fight that made them hesitant, that's why they started accusing manny.