Where do you rate Floyd in ATG p4p list?

[djtmal]

No, I answered the question and did so easily.

Apparently it didn't jibe too well with your fantasy.

Those names I gave you are pretty much nothing but "all-time greats".

And since you can't define what "prime" is, I gave you information on what those fighters did AFTER they lost to Floyd.

There are names on there, like Castillo, Hatton, Canelo and Corrales, that fit what might be a description of prime based on age...which makes your already flawed question moot anyway.

But more important is what those fighters did before and after they met Floyd.

That gives you THE BEST idea of the caliber of fighter Mayweather faced.

You still trying to save Floyd man? Geez. Iron Dan answered my question direct, so sit on the sidelines whilst me and him chop it up.

[T-1000]

I follow boxing for 20 years and it's difficult to think about a more accomplished fighter in that period of time. Jones, Morales, Barrera, Pacquiao have all been terrific fighters, but they somehow tarnished their careers at the end. Floyd didn't.

[koolkc107]

You still trying to save Floyd man? Geez. Iron Dan answered my question direct, so sit on the sidelines whilst me and him chop it up.

Floyd doesn't need saving from me or anyone else.

This OP is about where Floyd is as far as ATGs.

So, when you asked that question it was clear you were asking it in the context of Floyd's career (of course you will probably deny it but we both know why you posed it)

I answered you with examples from Mayweather's career and you began crying about not being addressed directly, when in fact what I did is completely trash your premise with ATG names and facts.

Another poster gives you examples of other ATG fighters which may not have faced "prime" competition and you commence to kiss his ass.

Understandable because he is your "out", your way of not looking like a complete idiot.

Which you are.

The whole thing is weak, but I guess you are used to that.

[djtmal]

No, I answered the question and did so easily.


Those names I gave you are pretty much nothing but "all-time greats".

Soooooo. Judah, Mosley, Corrales, Castillo, are high rank, all-time greats now.

Like I said man, sit on the sidelines whilst the grown men chop it up.

[IronDanHamza]

i'd say hagler have to at least be top 20 - 25 to be considered "high rank" wouldn't you mr. dan....

we talking about ranking floyd mayweather realistically here amongst the best the best...we haven't even got to the guys who do have prime all-time great guys...

Well yeah I wasn't sure what "high rank" was defined as.

If you are in the 20 something ATG Category (Top 30) I would say thats high rank. And I wouldn't argue if someone had Hagler there.

Floyd's around there IMO. Top 20-30.

It's hard to rank fighters the ranking system is totally subjective.

[koolkc107]

Soooooo. Judah, Mosley, Corrales, Castillo, are high rank, all-time greats now.

Like I said man, sit on the sidelines whilst the grown men chop it up.

Weak.

Every single guy I named is going to the HOF eventually.

How do YOU define ATG?

And, as I said, if age or physical prime is your gauge Floyd has at least 4 names that fit that criteria.

But, more than that he has some of those wins when he himself WAS NOT in his physical prime.

But, that would be still another thing that would render your idiocy transparent.

You can stop digging this hole anytime you like.

[koolkc107]

Well yeah I wasn't sure what "high rank" was defined as.

If you are in the 20 something ATG Category (Top 30) I would say thats high rank. And I wouldn't argue if someone had Hagler there.

Floyd's around there IMO. Top 20-30.

It's hard to rank fighters the ranking system is totally subjective.

He isn't even sure what "high rank" means himself.

That happens when you are trying to cast aspersions without being overt about it (or at least thinking folks can't see thru it)

[djtmal]

Well yeah I wasn't sure what "high rank" was defined as.

If you are in the 20 something ATG Category (Top 30) I would say thats high rank. And I wouldn't argue if someone had Hagler there.

Floyd's around there IMO. Top 20-30.

It's hard to rank fighters the ranking system is totally subjective.

Thats fair regarding Hagler and Floyd. Top 20-30.

People don't realize how many high rank guys have wins over all-time great elite prime fighters that trumps Floyd. Hell Srl immediately comes to mind.

I make it real simple. Who they beat and when they beat them is the only criteria that keeps everybody honest. Except for a Floyd boy of course, and I am not in the business of chopping up realistic game with a Floyd boy without their emotions getting involved.

[djtmal]

He isn't even sure what "high rank" means himself.

That happens when you are trying to cast aspersions without being overt about it (or at least thinking folks can't see thru it)

What the f**k does high rank mean logically with anything? Realistically top 10-30 usually. I know you ain't that slow. You a waste of my time now.

Meanwhile, in the keeping it 100 department....

Floyd...top 20-30 in the ATG rankings. Chopped up without bias by myself and Iron Dan.

[IronDanHamza]

Thats fair regarding Hagler and Floyd. Top 20-30.

People don't realize how many high rank guys have wins over all-time great elite prime fighters that trumps Floyd. Hell Srl immediately comes to mind.

I make it real simple. Who they beat and when they beat them is the only criteria that keeps everybody honest. Except for a Floyd boy of course, and I am not in the business of chopping up realistic game with a Floyd boy without their emotions getting involved.

Yeah a lot of guys have deep resumes.

But then some guys have solid resumes but great consistency. Like a Monzon for example, no prime ATG's but beat everyone and alot of top level very good fighters, and some passed prime but still top level great ones.

Then you've got the skill factor, I watch Hagler and I can say he has the tools to beat any Middleweight. But is his resume better than Robinsons? Not IMO but who would I pick to win that fight? I'd pick Hagler.

It's hard with so many factors involved but I'm with you resume is the most important.