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  • IMDAZED
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    #31
    Originally posted by Dr.Cool
    Of course he wants Wilder and Ortiz to fight each other. AJ doesn't want to face either one. And if Wilder beats Ortiz, AJ can continue against Parker and a 400 pound Tyson Fury.

    AJ had a lot of hype and momentum after his win against Wlad and he is flushing it all down the toilet to avoid the top guys. Wilder has been champ and been calling out these wannabes. They literally all tell him no to fight bums like Pulev and whatever line cook Parker just fought. Yea, Wilder's resume isn't the best and it is because of the Europeans running scared. Literally, Tyson Fury, AJ, and Parker all refuse to fight Wilder.

    No one refused to fight G, and yet he was painted as the most avoided by the bs from BS. We know the deal, hype up anyone not with Haymon. Wilder is the most avoided fighter out there today. He wants the big names and has a freakin belt, but it is always no, no, maybe later though. Please, let the WBO follow their own rules. AJ vs. Ortiz. Then we can have a unification fight if Ortiz wins. Because everyone and their grandma knows AJ isn't about to bet in the ring with Wilder. And neither is Parker. Parker literally just fought a fry cook instead of Wilder. Literally!!! Wilder called out Parker and Parker calls up the local sports bar to find an opponent instead. AJ doing the same. Pulev is a bum, and everyone knows it.
    Joshua took a big risk with Klitschko, Wilder is taking his with Ortiz. The fight is being built up nicely and I believe it goes down next year. Both guys want it, one is simply more adamant because he doesn't hold the cards.

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    • Dr.Cool
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      #32
      Originally posted by Deus
      Why on earth should Joshua just give Wilder/Ortiz a unification? That's a ludicrous notion that he won't be doing all he can to keep hold of the belts he's won. Wilder v Ortiz can still happen with just Wilder's WBC title on the line.

      Wilder v Ortiz for the WBC just means that Ortiz get's a title shot now rather than in 6 months time and it means that Wilder has removed one more obstacle between a Wilder v Joshua fight.
      It is a ludicrous notion to want a champ to fight other champs? This is what I am talking about. Idiots like this, say no why fight Wilder he is only 36-0 with 35 kos and the WBC belt. Why would AJ not fight as many bums as possible and let Wilder fight all the top guys? AJ has two belts, and the best fighters the one with the biggest cahones, guys like Ward, don't make excuses to avoid the best.

      Why would Wilder give AJ an unification fight? Oh, that's right, because Wilder wants to fight the best. What an idiot. Wilder should be like G and wait another five years before trying to fight anyone with a chance. By then he will be top 3 p4p if he picks all opponents he knows he can ko.

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      • Deus
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        #33
        Originally posted by Dr.Cool
        It is a ludicrous notion to want a champ to fight other champs? This is what I am talking about. Idiots like this, say no why fight Wilder he is only 36-0 with 35 kos and the WBC belt. Why would AJ not fight as many bums as possible and let Wilder fight all the top guys? AJ has two belts, and the best fighters the one with the biggest cahones, guys like Ward, don't make excuses to avoid the best.

        Why would Wilder give AJ an unification fight? Oh, that's right, because Wilder wants to fight the best. What an idiot. Wilder should be like G and wait another five years before trying to fight anyone with a chance. By then he will be top 3 p4p if he picks all opponents he knows he can ko.
        You seem to have totally got confused with my post... I was quoting a guy talking about Joshua giving up his WBA belt so Wilder v Ortiz could be a WBC & WBA unification fight.

        Admittedly the first line in my post wasn't all that clear but if you'd bothered to read the rest of it it should have been clear as day that I was referring to Joshua willingly giving away his WBA belt; the comment that Wilder v Ortiz can still happen with just the WBC belt on the line and the fact that I talked that Wilder v Ortiz removes a hurdle to the Wilder v Joshua fight (the one we all want) should have given you a clue, but alas you read the first line and went off on one like a typical keyboard warrior.

        Kudos!

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        • thack
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          #34
          I hope Wilder will one day fight someone so his exciting style , should he win can be in the mix.

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          • KillaCamNZ
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            #35
            Originally posted by ScottWeiland
            I agree but I'm grateful their is something up on the main page as opposed to every damn article related to Floyd vs MacGruber. It's starting to feel like a boxing forum again.

            I don't see these fights happening any time soon, what's the latest with Ortiz vs Wilder, is it any closer to actual fruition and actually being signed ?
            It's been a pretty dark time here recently for those who want to talk real boxing, no doubt about it.

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            • saintpat
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              #36
              Originally posted by vitali1999
              Well in case you didn't know champions have to face mandatory contenders to their title with the exception of wilder. Don't confuse the two. 2 years 8 months and not one mandatory for BUMSQUAD. But Joshua doesn't get unlimited voluntary defenses like him.
              You should try to keep up with the news. Pulev says he needs 4 months training and turned down a fight this fall.

              Leaves AJ open to face Wilder.

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                #37
                Originally posted by saintpat
                You should try to keep up with the news. Pulev says he needs 4 months training and turned down a fight this fall.

                Leaves AJ open to face Wilder.
                No it doesn't. Joshua has 2 belts not one like BUMSQUAD. No Pulev means Ortiz. WBA and IBF mandatory are due. Unlike the WBC, there champs actually have to face their mandatories

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                • juggernaut666
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                  #38
                  Originally posted by Butch.McRae
                  Ortiz's team needs to actually get something right and make this happen.

                  And people need to give Wilder credit for forcing a quality fight...in the past year he's been kicking and screaming to get a champion caliber guy in the ring. None of this would be happening if he didn't push Haymon for a good scrap.

                  Haymon's team is going to pay Stiverne that step aside cash, and he'd be smart to take the 500k or whatever it'll be. He has zero chance of beating Wilder anyway.
                  No one has to give wilder anything thats his JOB to actually fight relevant fighters..and its long over due. Wilder should really refund money to some matches he had. He can kick and scream all he wants the matches he wants to make arent available when he wants them.....

                  The guy had SEVEN months to fight Stiverne already ...not a peep since recently now is not fighting him and thats bc he wanted to coast to 2018. Against who? We'll see...... None of this would be happening if wilder actually stepped his game up 2 years ago from the beginning and fought better guys......and no povetkin doesnt give him an excuse for his ENTIRE resume...do you guys even look at this stuff? lol

                  You also dont PUSH anyone to make a good scrap...he hasnt even fought a Mandatory yet to get better fights,just stop...lol
                  Last edited by juggernaut666; 08-31-2017, 07:21 PM.

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                  • SchoolTheseCats
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                    #39
                    Originally posted by Deus
                    Why on earth should Joshua just give Wilder/Ortiz a unification? That's a ludicrous notion that he won't be doing all he can to keep hold of the belts he's won. Wilder v Ortiz can still happen with just Wilder's WBC title on the line.

                    Wilder v Ortiz for the WBC just means that Ortiz get's a title shot now rather than in 6 months time and it means that Wilder has removed one more obstacle between a Wilder v Joshua fight.
                    He has a ibf mando he wants to take instead of WBA mando with Ortiz, ortiz already on record and given a deadline for Joshua take fight with him or be strip

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                    • PunchyPotorff
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                      #40
                      It would be too logical. No way it happens, at least any time soon.

                      But it should happen. I think Ortiz beats Wilder, then Joshua beats Ortiz. But predicting and actually watching the fight are two quite different things. But holy moly would those be great fights or what?

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