Golovkin fans are in for a Hellish awakening.

[Mr Objecitivity]

1. team g string boasted that they would fight anyone from 154-168

2. Who says Lara refused to move up to 160? Got a credible link? Besides, team g string boasted that they would fight anyone from 154-168

3. It was physically impossible for Ward to make 160. Besides, team g string boasted that they would fight anyone from 154-168.

4. from a historical stand point, g string refused to fight 2 out of the best 3 opponents available to him.

LeMew?

1. LeMew is hot garbage. Both of the fighters he lost to are average at best and he has no signature win. His rise in the ranks is because of a crappy division not by anything special on his part.

2. team g string boasted that they would fight anyone from 154-168

3. Therefore LeMew isn't fit to carry Ward or Lara's spit bucket.

1) TEAM Golovkin claimed they would fight anyone. However, did Golovkin himself say he would do that or wanted to do that? If not, then what exactly is your point? If yes, then provide the evidence.

2) How many fights did Erislandy Lara have at 160 pounds? Did he become the mandatory challenger to GGG at 160 pounds? Heck, did he even try to become a mandatory challenger at 160 pounds to GGG's titles? The answer is a resounding NO to all these questions. Those are not 'impossible circumstances' as you're claiming. Saying GGG refused to fight Erislandy Lara is like saying Wladimir Klitschko refused to fight a top cruiserweight. They are both in different divisions. If 160 pounds is as weak as you claim it is and if Erislandy Lara is as good as you claim him to be, then why not just go to 160 pounds and force GGG to fight him by becoming the mandatory challenger? If GGG still avoided Lara after that, then you could justifiably claim that GGG is at fault for a proper 'duck'.

3) Andre Ward's physical incompetency isn't GGG's problems and thus, not his fault.

4) If you're referring to Ward and Lara as those 2 'best opponents', then they were never a 'POTENTIAL' opponent in the first place since they were never even in the same division as GGG. So he didn't 'refuse' to fight them as a 160 pound boxer. Had they competed at 160 pounds and he still avoided a fight against them, then it would be justifiable to claim he 'refused' to fight them.

5) All of that is your unsubstantiated, baseless claims. The evidence suggests it's contrary to your baseless, unsubstantiated claims. The evidence suggests that he was a top 5 160 pound boxer and he became the mandatory challenger. Those evidence carry higher credibility to your baseless, unsubstantiated claims.

6) Erislandy Lara, nor Andre Ward have ever fought at 160 pounds. So as a 160 pound boxer, it's those guys that are inferior to David Lemieux in terms of value / worth.

[AKAcronym]

There is a video of someone asking Lara if he's willing to move to 160 lbs and he responds with "154, 154...154." I'm trying to find the video so it shows people how "willing" Lara was to go to 160, despite all his supposed calling out.

[Da Wizard]

Update: Promise me i'll be here so you can talk shhh right...and then you blocked me you literal definition of a bi-tch? LMFAO. I thought you were pathetic before but I guess it's actually worse than I imagine. What DaWizard couldn't handle being called out on being a keyboard warrior loudmouth? Wahhh you ballless c*nt! LMAO

You asked me to provide proof of my bet on Canelo. I did. I asked you to show your bet, and you B1TCHED OUT, and instead started menstruating over the word "g-string" because you are a spineless little b1tch.

I blocked you because I got tired of the smell of your bleeding vagina, you ball-less **** talking B1TCH.

Don't be mad because I pulled your ho card.

[stealthradon]

There is a video of someone asking Lara if he's willing to move to 160 lbs and he responds with "154, 154...154." I'm trying to find the video so it shows people how "willing" Lara was to go to 160, despite all his supposed calling out.

Why move to 160 when you can fight quality opposition like Yuri Foreman who had his first 12 round fight vs Lara in 4 years. After he was laid off for 2 years. After which he fought great names like Lenwood Dozier (which he sc****d by).

[just the facts]

1) TEAM Golovkin claimed they would fight anyone. However, did Golovkin himself say he would do that or wanted to do that? If not, then what exactly is your point? If yes, then provide the evidence.

2) How many fights did Erislandy Lara have at 160 pounds? Did he become the mandatory challenger to GGG at 160 pounds? Heck, did he even try to become a mandatory challenger at 160 pounds to GGG's titles? The answer is a resounding NO to all these questions. Those are not 'impossible circumstances' as you're claiming. Saying GGG refused to fight Erislandy Lara is like saying Wladimir Klitschko refused to fight a top cruiserweight. They are both in different divisions. If 160 pounds is as weak as you claim it is and if Erislandy Lara is as good as you claim him to be, then why not just go to 160 pounds and force GGG to fight him by becoming the mandatory challenger? If GGG still avoided Lara after that, then you could justifiably claim that GGG is at fault for a proper 'duck'.

3) Andre Ward's physical incompetency isn't GGG's problems and thus, not his fault.

4) If you're referring to Ward and Lara as those 2 'best opponents', then they were never a 'POTENTIAL' opponent in the first place since they were never even in the same division as GGG. So he didn't 'refuse' to fight them as a 160 pound boxer. Had they competed at 160 pounds and he still avoided a fight against them, then it would be justifiable to claim he 'refused' to fight them.

5) All of that is your unsubstantiated, baseless claims. The evidence suggests it's contrary to your baseless, unsubstantiated claims. The evidence suggests that he was a top 5 160 pound boxer and he became the mandatory challenger. Those evidence carry higher credibility to your baseless, unsubstantiated claims.

6) Erislandy Lara, nor Andre Ward have ever fought at 160 pounds. So as a 160 pound boxer, it's those guys that are inferior to David Lemieux in terms of value / worth.

So when they said we'll fight anyone from 154-168 what they really meant was we'll fight anyone from 154-168 as long as we dictate all terms, as long the opponent has a very small chance of winning and most of all we'll fight anyone from 154-168 except Andre Ward or Erislandy Lara.

Greatness in boxing is rarely accomplished by fighters looking to avoid tough matchups.

[just the facts]

He's too dumb to come up with anything but insults. Childish insults are all he has.

your love interest (g string) ducking that Ward fight hurts you down deep huh?

[juggernaut666]

IDK ....I would take GGG in a come from behind on the score cards by K.O in the 10th .

[kafkod]

1) TEAM Golovkin claimed they would fight anyone. However, did Golovkin himself say he would do that or wanted to do that? If not, then what exactly is your point? If yes, then provide the evidence.

2) How many fights did Erislandy Lara have at 160 pounds? Did he become the mandatory challenger to GGG at 160 pounds? Heck, did he even try to become a mandatory challenger at 160 pounds to GGG's titles? The answer is a resounding NO to all these questions. Those are not 'impossible circumstances' as you're claiming. Saying GGG refused to fight Erislandy Lara is like saying Wladimir Klitschko refused to fight a top cruiserweight. They are both in different divisions. If 160 pounds is as weak as you claim it is and if Erislandy Lara is as good as you claim him to be, then why not just go to 160 pounds and force GGG to fight him by becoming the mandatory challenger? If GGG still avoided Lara after that, then you could justifiably claim that GGG is at fault for a proper 'duck'.

3) Andre Ward's physical incompetency isn't GGG's problems and thus, not his fault.

4) If you're referring to Ward and Lara as those 2 'best opponents', then they were never a 'POTENTIAL' opponent in the first place since they were never even in the same division as GGG. So he didn't 'refuse' to fight them as a 160 pound boxer. Had they competed at 160 pounds and he still avoided a fight against them, then it would be justifiable to claim he 'refused' to fight them.

5) All of that is your unsubstantiated, baseless claims. The evidence suggests it's contrary to your baseless, unsubstantiated claims. The evidence suggests that he was a top 5 160 pound boxer and he became the mandatory challenger. Those evidence carry higher credibility to your baseless, unsubstantiated claims.

6) Erislandy Lara, nor Andre Ward have ever fought at 160 pounds. So as a 160 pound boxer, it's those guys that are inferior to David Lemieux in terms of value / worth.

Loeffler contacted Haymon and asked about the possibility of Lara fighting GGG. Lara's manager vetoed the idea and said that Lara wanted to break the record for defences at 154 before he moved up to 160.

That was widely reported, but the GGG hate trolls simply ignored it and carried on with their "GGG ducking Lara" bull****. Trolls don't deal in facts.

The Ward/GGG debate has been done to death here. GGG is a MW and Ward, by his own admission, can't make 168 any more and is even finding 175 tight.

"But Abel said anybody from 154 to 168 doe" True. But Andre Ward and his trainer both said that Andre was open to fighting at CW and HW. Tony Bellew is more than open to fighting Ward, so if it doesn't happen, does that mean Ward ducked Bellew?

[Mr Objecitivity]

Loeffler contacted Haymon and asked about the possibility of Lara fighting GGG. Lara's manager vetoed the idea and said that Lara wanted to break the record for defences at 154 before he moved up to 160.

That was widely reported, but the GGG hate trolls simply ignored it and carried on with their "GGG ducking Lara" bull****. Trolls don't deal in facts.

The Ward/GGG debate has been done to death here. GGG is a MW and Ward, by his own admission, can't make 168 any more and is even finding 175 tight.

"But Abel said anybody from 154 to 168 doe" True. But Andre Ward and his trainer both said that Andre was open to fighting at CW and HW. Tony Bellew is more than open to fighting Ward, so if it doesn't happen, does that mean Ward ducked Bellew?

The inconsistency in logic and the double standards are absolutely ridiculous!

It's like these days, it's somehow a bad thing to stick to your own natural weight division, defeat every top level opponent in your own natural weight division and become the undisputed champion and indisputably the best boxer in that division.

[Mr Objecitivity]

So when they said we'll fight anyone from 154-168 what they really meant was we'll fight anyone from 154-168 as long as we dictate all terms, as long the opponent has a very small chance of winning and most of all we'll fight anyone from 154-168 except Andre Ward or Erislandy Lara.

Greatness in boxing is rarely accomplished by fighters looking to avoid tough matchups.

If you're referring to 'they' as GGG's team, then the answer is PERHAPS / MAYBE. However, if GGG himself never said / stated any of those things, then is he really at any fault? Does he really deserve any blame? Since that's what it seems like according to some of the users in this forum. Perhaps keep the criticism exclusive towards GGG's team and exclude it from applying it to GGG specifically?

GGG has nothing but respect for Andre Ward. He rarely ever bad mouths any boxer or opponent unless they are rude to him first. He behaves like a civilized human being. He knocks most of his opponents out and fights in a style friendly way. Yet, somehow all of those things are still not enough. Certain individuals will still find a way or reason to hate on the guy or attack him personally.

Greatness in boxing is rarely accomplished by fighters looking to avoid tough matchups.

That is your subjective opinion on what you personally believe is 'greatness'. 'Greatness' is a subjective word / term that is defined differently.

From an objective viewpoint, all that matters is if GGG is fighting the best opponents (according to the rankings - which he is) in his own natural weight division. Erislandy Lara had his chances of coming up to 160 pounds and earning his shot. Guess what? He refused that chance! What for? Perhaps because he wasn't that serious of taking that fight in the first place.