Name 1 Prime A-level fighter that Mayweather has on his resume......

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  • Jsmooth9876
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    #241
    Originally posted by Rovi
    Maidana I bet was a bum, lol, he was a mad dog who could floor anyone at the time.
    Devon Alexander schooled him for Christ sakes. Let's not act like he's some A level talent. He just had a great night until he gassed out fighting like a backyard brawler

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      #242
      Originally posted by Thraxox
      Canelo - Not prime, at a catchweight. Definition of prime is at the height of his physical capablitlies and obviously Canelo is not prime at age 22
      Ricky Hatton - B-level, not in his weight class
      Miguel Cotto - Passed his prime, damaged goods.
      Zab Judah- Kosta Tszyu left overs, beaten by all of his big fights, not A-level

      stop twisting.
      So is golovkin about to fight prime alvarez? The fight is at middleweight right? Is 160 his best weight? Are you his nutritionist and body weight specialist?

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      • Code Red
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        #243
        Every fight Floyd had at 130, 135, 140 were against prime opponents. The guy who was out of prime for the majority of his fights 147 and up was Mayweather himself!

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          #244
          Originally posted by Jsmooth9876
          He had fought 7 times in the previous 6 years and retired for almost 2. Not exactly putting himself through the ringer leading up to that age if you ask me.

          Not saying what he's accomplished is not great because he's an amazing fighter but he hasn't gone through wars like other 35 year old fighters
          but look at the level he was fighting at man..name me all the other fighters who foght fighters like this back to back to back(all before Canelo)

          Jmm-p4p#2
          Mosley-p4p#3-wba ww champ
          Ortiz-wbc ww champ
          Cotto-wba 154 champ
          Guerrero-#10 p4p

          these were his fights from 2009 until canelo..(the 2 before that)

          Hatton-p4p- top 8

          Oscar-wbc 154 champ


          nothing to sneeze at man

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            #245
            Originally posted by larryxxx.
            but look at the level he was fighting at man..name me all the other fighters who foght fighters like this back to back to back(all before Canelo)

            Jmm-p4p#2
            Mosley-p4p#3-wba ww champ
            Ortiz-wbc ww champ
            Cotto-wba 154 champ
            Guerrero-#10 p4p

            these were his fights from 2009 until canelo..(the 2 before that)

            Hatton-p4p- top 8

            Oscar-wbc 154 champ


            nothing to sneeze at man
            Oscar had a good run of foes but did have some easy ones also thrown in. For instance in a same 6 year period .

            Ruelas,Hernandez, Leija, Chavez 1, Gonzales,Whitaker,Camacho,Chavez 2, Quartey, Carr, Trinadad, Mosely 1, Gatti, Vargas. Plus 2 or 3 throw away fights..

            Then fought Mosely again, Sturm, Hopkins then Floyd almost 3 years after Hopkins.
            So about 20 fights up through the Vargas fight.

            That was his absolute prime and it ended in 2003 for Mosely 2.

            That's only why I say Floyd didn't have the wear and tear of some other guys even younger than him that fought much more often.and he (Oscar)also didn't win all of them.

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              #246
              Originally posted by Thraxox
              Canelo - Not prime, at a catchweight. Definition of prime is at the height of his physical capablitlies and obviously Canelo is not prime at age 22
              Ricky Hatton - B-level, not in his weight class
              Miguel Cotto - Passed his prime, damaged goods.
              Zab Judah- Kosta Tszyu left overs, beaten by all of his big fights, not A-level

              stop twisting.
              I think Castillo may have been his best prime win, well at least the 2nd one. I think Castillo was a legit bad MF'er.

              I'd put Corrales probably second but I think Corrales was probably better after his stint in jail. Going into that fight against Mayweather he was a mess. Plus he never should have agreed to the fight at 130lbs.

              Overall I agree though, Mayweather's resume looks a lot better when you just look at the names and not the details. He fought so many guys past their primes or not even near their prime. Ricky Hatton was about the most prime fighter he fought after 2003 and IMO he was always overrated. Good fighter but not great. And that fight was fought at a higher weight than he typically fought at. Wouldn't have made a difference but just something of note.

              JMM was close to prime but he had no business fighting at that weight. But money talks.

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                #247
                The trolling on this forum never ceases to amaze me... Ridiculously ignorant thread. Half of those are A level fighters. Floyd is just A+... Stop hating kid

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                • Diego Rodriguez
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                  #248
                  Originally posted by larryxxx.
                  but look at the level he was fighting at man..name me all the other fighters who foght fighters like this back to back to back(all before Canelo)

                  Jmm-p4p#2
                  Mosley-p4p#3-wba ww champ
                  Ortiz-wbc ww champ
                  Cotto-wba 154 champ
                  Guerrero-#10 p4p

                  these were his fights from 2009 until canelo..(the 2 before that)

                  Hatton-p4p- top 8

                  Oscar-wbc 154 champ


                  nothing to sneeze at man
                  I would never deny that Floyd had an excellent resume but I just think it isn't as great as some people want us to believe. People just go off names and that's fine for casuals but if you know boxing you'll now that while DLH looks like a better win the reality is Jose Luis Castillo was a tougher fighter in 2002. There are a lot of guys on his resume who have the big names but weren't the big fighters when he faced them.

                  Whatever the case he went undefeated and made a crap load of money. He did it right. I'll never call him TBE but I got no problem saying he's the best they saw.

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                    #249
                    Originally posted by Diego Rodriguez
                    I would never deny that Floyd had an excellent resume but I just think it isn't as great as some people want us to believe. People just go off names and that's fine for casuals but if you know boxing you'll now that while DLH looks like a better win the reality is Jose Luis Castillo was a tougher fighter in 2002. There are a lot of guys on his resume who have the big names but weren't the big fighters when he faced them.

                    Whatever the case he went undefeated and made a crap load of money. He did it right. I'll never call him TBE but I got no problem saying he's the best they saw.
                    Dude just get it in your head that Floyd is better than any other fighter you can think of in the last 20 years, he is TBE the best of this era and that's all to it!

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                    • Diego Rodriguez
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                      #250
                      Originally posted by hateinyaeyes32
                      The trolling on this forum never ceases to amaze me... Ridiculously ignorant thread. Half of those are A level fighters. Floyd is just A+... Stop hating kid
                      There is trolling and some people are just hating on Floyd. But it is totally fair to look at his resume and acknowledge that many of those A fighters weren't A fighters when he fought them. Let's just bring up for example De La Hoya.

                      DLH's peak was in the years when he fought Tito (99) and lost to Mosley (00). Let's extend it to say he was near peak when he beat Vargas (02) and lost to Mosley in the rematch (03). He probably deserved to win the Mosley rematch. But after that he went up against Strum and he should have lost. He was gifted that fight. He didn't look good. He didn't fight Floyd for another 3 years after that fight. His only win after the Strum fight and before the Floyd fight was against Ricardo Mayorga. One year after the Floyd fight DLH was utterly destroyed against Pac. So now while DLH may look like a great win the reality is he wasn't even close to prime. He wasn't a great fighter (A).

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