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  • Butt stuff
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    #11
    Funny how Floyd fans have turned into GGG fans. "He let him hit him because he wasn't afraid of his power and he couldn't hurt him." Hilarious.

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    • b Murphington
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      #12
      Originally posted by koolkc107
      And MMA as a sport has to live with all that.

      A 40 yr old guy coming off a 2 year layoff walks down THE MOST LETHAL guy in the octagon, a guy in the prime of his career who'd never before been stopped on his feet. And that guy was backing away most of the fight, backing away from a guy not known for KOing anyone recently.

      They have to live with all that.

      Hopefully, the better athletes in MMA take that lesson to heart and get in the gym and start doing better.

      As I said, take any elite 147, 154, and 160 pound boxer under 30 and that fight doesn't go past 4 or 5 rounds.
      But that's obvious or it should be obvious. I tried explaining it to people that that boxings very different. We knew it from the start that Mayweather wins. Of course if you take an elite MMA fighter and throw him in the ring, he's not going to perform well against even mid tier opposition.

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      • b Murphington
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        #13
        Originally posted by Dr Kewl Hair
        Funny how Floyd fans have turned into GGG fans. "He let him hit him because he wasn't afraid of his power and he couldn't hurt him." Hilarious.
        It's true doe!

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        • Butt stuff
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          #14
          Originally posted by b morph
          It's true doe!
          "Hell of a fighter, we gave you guys a big drama show, made him a good boy TBE TBE"

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          • WarMaidana
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            #15
            Originally posted by koolkc107
            And MMA as a sport has to live with all that.

            A 40 yr old guy coming off a 2 year layoff walks down THE MOST LETHAL guy in the octagon, a guy in the prime of his career who'd never before been stopped on his feet. And that guy was backing away most of the fight, backing away from a guy not known for KOing anyone recently.

            They have to live with all that.

            Hopefully, the better athletes in MMA take that lesson to heart and get in the gym and start doing better.

            As I said, take any elite 147, 154, and 160 pound boxer under 30 and that fight doesn't go past 4 or 5 rounds.
            this right here....

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            • VoodooChild
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              #16
              Originally posted by revelated
              As a fan of both, I slightly disagree. But that's because I look at it from a different angle.

              Floyd is 40 years old. Conor's under 30.

              Floyd came in under 150, McGregor had a 20lb advantage.

              McGregor had as significant reach advantage, activity advantage, height advantage, weight advantage and general strength advantage.

              Floyd has brittle hands, on record, he'll even tell you. Floyd gave in to 8oz gloves that would have risked those hands being broken.

              Floyd's been out of the ring for over 2 years.

              Floyd "Money" Mayweather did something last night that NO MMA fighter has ever been able to do to Conor McGregor: stop him on his feet.

              Conor McGregor was getting absolutely pieced by a short, lighter, 40-year old inactive fighter with brittle hands and no one-punch knockout power.

              While I don't think it hurts MMA the sport, it certainly hurts the mythos of Conor McGregor being this totally dangerous person when you look at it from these angles. If you look at Conor's MMA fights, he gets touched a lot but never stopped from striking. And these are young, hungry fighters wearing 4oz gloves unable to do what Mayweather just did at 40 years old with 8oz gloves coming off an extended layoff.
              If you're a fan of both what do you think would have happened last night if they fought in the Octagon under MMA rules. If Floyd would have won the 1st round and made it to the late 4th before tapping out to a submission do you think that would have been a good showing considering he's never fought in the Octagon?
              Last edited by VoodooChild; 08-27-2017, 01:06 PM.

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              • FightLikeABroad
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                #17
                WTF are you talking about... lol

                All the fighters u named, has to fight Connor, in a real life situation, none of them win the fight.


                Connor outboxed Mayweather for 4 rounds, took him to the 10th, the all time great, vs a pro debut.


                Why boxing fans are so butthurt that they are no match for any MMA artist in a FIGHT. Not a boxing bout.

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                • USMCer
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                  #18
                  Originally posted by koolkc107
                  Literally every boxing fan with any sense at all on this forum knew what time it was.

                  95% picked Floyd to win and OVER 75% had the stoppage.

                  We knew that MMA power is something very different from Boxing power- throwing and wearing and HURTING people in gloves at least twice as heavy.

                  We knew MMA stamina was very different from Boxing stamina- that some boxing matches don't heat up until MMA matches are damn near over.

                  We saw it coming, with some of the more gracious of us boxing fans allowing that we love a sport where one punch can change everything and respecting that it was possible Conor could actually throw that punch.

                  But early on in the fight, we were nodding our heads in grim confirmation.
                  We saw it.
                  We knew we had called it right.
                  How did we know from round 1?

                  Easy.

                  We knew when we saw the most defensive minded fighter in the history of the sport WALK FORWARD, TAKE PUNCHES, AND KEEP WALKING FORWARD.

                  It told us exactly what game Floyd was playing.
                  It told us Conor had nothing in his arsenal that could hurt Floyd.
                  It told us it was just a matter of when Floyd decided to press the gas.

                  MMA fan, you have nothing to be ashamed of.

                  Novice boxer takes a legend into the late rounds.

                  It was a win, of sorts, for your sport.

                  And, it showed that the best your sport has to offer may one day actually be on par with best the sweet science has to offer.

                  But, make no mistake, MMA has a ways to go before their athletes are as good as boxers on average.

                  If that was Errol Spence, or Lil G, or Canelo, or Danny Jacobs, or any of a score of young elite or near elite boxers, Conor would have been erased very early. Those aforementioned guys are not 40 years old, and all of them punch much, much harder than Floyd.

                  The same Floyd your MMA superstar found it prudent to back up from all night once he got hit a few times.

                  Hats off to him tho. Hats off to Conor.

                  I hope more MMA guys wise up and start to realize how boxing skill- real boxing technique- will change their sport for the better.
                  B!tch, be humble.


                  Boxing rules...
                  TBE...
                  0-0...




                  P.S.
                  MMA fans knew it too, but we also knew Conor would show better than the myopic Boxing fan thought. "Zero percent chance"... "Won't even land one punch"... yap, yap yap...

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                  • USMCer
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                    #19
                    Originally posted by USMCer
                    True MMA hardcores LOVE THIS SHHT and we mostly just want to SEE WHAT HAPPENS.

                    The roots of our sport is "How would a Karate guy do against a Boxer?"... "How would a Jiu Jitsu guy do against a Wrestler?"... etc. Now, this match-up is strictly Boxing, but the underlying draw is still that *Style-vs-Style* curiosity.

                    Even if Mayweather just out-classes McGregor, as expected... I WANT TO SEE IT, not just imagine it, not just hypothesis, not just spew-out analytical babble.

                    Last edited by USMCer; 08-27-2017, 01:45 PM.

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                      #20
                      Originally posted by VoodooChild
                      If you're a fan of both what do you think would have happened last night if they fought in the Octagon under MMA rules. If Floyd would have won the 1st round and made it to the late 4th before tapping out to a submission do you think that would have been a good showing considering he's never fought in the Octagon?
                      Depends on the circumstances. If Floyd was just jabbing for four rounds and then got submitted, no. I think that makes him look basic. But if Floyd was piecing McGregor with power strikes up all night long and then got caught with a takedown and tapped, I'd say it's win for Floyd.

                      See I look at the overall performance, not the outcome. In terms of overall performance, McGregor looked every bit the amateur, and Mayweather looked every bit 40. Given they both looked like what we expected them to look like, I simply didn't find McGregor's performance all that impressive.

                      That he didn't get stopped early? That was obvious, just due to the side difference.

                      That he was pivoting? Unexpected, but if you haven't got the power to do anything with it, who cares?

                      His jab? I'm a fan of the jab, but when your opponent is walking through the jab, it's not effective and thus you look silly. Posturing.


                      I saw a Floyd who ultimately tested Conor's power, felt it, shrugged it off, then took inspiration from Jeff "The Hornet" Horn and just bullied Conor for the rest of the 8 rounds to a stoppage.

                      But that doesn't change the reality.

                      This "dangerous" 29-year-old guy called Conor McGregor that everyone thought was a knockout artist, just got walked down and brutally stopped by an inactive, brittle-handed, shorter, lighter, 40 year old welterweight with 8oz gloves.

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