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  • koolkc107
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    Just For The Record, MMA Fan...

    Literally every boxing fan with any sense at all on this forum knew what time it was.

    95% picked Floyd to win and OVER 75% had the stoppage.

    We knew that MMA power is something very different from Boxing power- throwing and wearing and HURTING people in gloves at least twice as heavy.

    We knew MMA stamina was very different from Boxing stamina- that some boxing matches don't heat up until MMA matches are damn near over.

    We saw it coming, with some of the more gracious of us boxing fans allowing that we love a sport where one punch can change everything and respecting that it was possible Conor could actually throw that punch.

    But early on in the fight, we were nodding our heads in grim confirmation.

    We saw it.

    We knew we had called it right.

    How did we know from round 1?

    Easy.

    We knew when we saw the most defensive minded fighter in the history of the sport WALK FORWARD, TAKE PUNCHES, AND KEEP WALKING FORWARD.

    It told us exactly what game Floyd was playing.
    It told us Conor had nothing in his arsenal that could hurt Floyd.
    It told us it was just a matter of when Floyd decided to press the gas.

    MMA fan, you have nothing to be ashamed of.

    Novice boxer takes a legend into the late rounds.

    It was a win, of sorts, for your sport.

    And, it showed that the best your sport has to offer may one day actually be on par with best the sweet science has to offer.

    But, make no mistake, MMA has a ways to go before their athletes are as good as boxers on average.

    If that was Errol Spence, or Lil G, or Canelo, or Danny Jacobs, or any of a score of young elite or near elite boxers, Conor would have been erased very early. Those aforementioned guys are not 40 years old, and all of them punch much, much harder than Floyd.

    The same Floyd your MMA superstar found it prudent to back up from all night once he got hit a few times.

    Hats off to him tho. Hats off to Conor.

    I hope more MMA guys wise up and start to realize how boxing skill- real boxing technique- will change their sport for the better.
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    #2
    Preaching to the choir is pretty cool

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    • Combat Talk Radio
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      #3
      As a fan of both, I slightly disagree. But that's because I look at it from a different angle.

      Floyd is 40 years old. Conor's under 30.

      Floyd came in under 150, McGregor had a 20lb advantage.

      McGregor had as significant reach advantage, activity advantage, height advantage, weight advantage and general strength advantage.

      Floyd has brittle hands, on record, he'll even tell you. Floyd gave in to 8oz gloves that would have risked those hands being broken.

      Floyd's been out of the ring for over 2 years.

      Floyd "Money" Mayweather did something last night that NO MMA fighter has ever been able to do to Conor McGregor: stop him on his feet.

      Conor McGregor was getting absolutely pieced by a short, lighter, 40-year old inactive fighter with brittle hands and no one-punch knockout power.

      While I don't think it hurts MMA the sport, it certainly hurts the mythos of Conor McGregor being this totally dangerous person when you look at it from these angles. If you look at Conor's MMA fights, he gets touched a lot but never stopped from striking. And these are young, hungry fighters wearing 4oz gloves unable to do what Mayweather just did at 40 years old with 8oz gloves coming off an extended layoff.

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      • WarMaidana
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        #4
        I love it how UFC fans say that MMA guys have way better stamina... last nigth proved them wrong. Same with that they punch so hard etc

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          The Floyd should KO him in 1 round thing never made sense to me. Its not like styles don't matter. I mean who the f#ck are you comfortable saying Floyd KO's in 1 round lol. Floyd is the mfing man, but idk that I'd pick Floyd to KO a relatively healthy 40 year old man who trains at a boxing gym 3 times a week to not last 3 mins with Floyd. It'd be like saying a boxer shouldn't go into the second round with a guy like GSP. GSP isn't a killer. He's a wrestlef#cker. Thats his game. So idk that a boxer going 4 rounds with GSP means anything just like the 10 rounds in this fight means anything. That said much respecto to Conor for just doing what he did & doing well all things considered, but the number of rounds doesn't really play into that respect for me cuz of Floyd's style.

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          • HarvardBlue
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            #6
            Originally posted by revelated
            As a fan of both, I slightly disagree. But that's because I look at it from a different angle.

            Floyd is 40 years old. Conor's under 30.

            Floyd came in under 150, McGregor had a 20lb advantage.

            McGregor had as significant reach advantage, activity advantage, height advantage, weight advantage and general strength advantage.

            Floyd has brittle hands, on record, he'll even tell you. Floyd gave in to 8oz gloves that would have risked those hands being broken.

            Floyd's been out of the ring for over 2 years.

            Floyd "Money" Mayweather did something last night that NO MMA fighter has ever been able to do to Conor McGregor: stop him on his feet.

            Conor McGregor was getting absolutely pieced by a short, lighter, 40-year old inactive fighter with brittle hands and no one-punch knockout power.

            While I don't think it hurts MMA the sport, it certainly hurts the mythos of Conor McGregor being this totally dangerous person when you look at it from these angles. If you look at Conor's MMA fights, he gets touched a lot but never stopped from striking. And these are young, hungry fighters wearing 4oz gloves unable to do what Mayweather just did at 40 years old with 8oz gloves coming off an extended layoff.
            MMA fans won't take this way. They'll think it's a win because he lasted 10 round. I had MMA fans telling me all Conor needed was one punch to win the fight. Very early in the fight I realized that wasn't going to happen.

            I watch both sports and thought McGregor was very good as a striker but then Nate Diaz came in and took his soul so I knew he couldn't beat Mayweather.

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              #7
              Originally posted by WarMaidana
              I love it how UFC fans say that MMA guys have way better stamina... last nigth proved them wrong. Same with that they punch so hard etc
              I know right. MMA is a fcuking joke. I competed in the AM's in boxing and trained MMA on the side. MMA training is a joke because they ignore key features of boxing. No jump rope, no running (THEY SWIM LMAO), no double end bag, no speed bag.

              Boxers know wtf they're doing. If MMA wants to be TRUE they need to do the entire boxing routine. Speed bag really helps an MMA fighter with stamina and blocking abilities.

              They think they got a different science than us, they problem for them is duality. They need to take our stuff and add to it. Not take what they think works and leave out what they think doesnt.

              And anybody that htinks last night was real, itwasn't. The entire thing from beginning to end was staged.

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                #8
                Originally posted by harwri008
                MMA fans won't take this way. They'll think it's a win because he lasted 10 round. I had MMA fans telling me all Conor needed was one punch to win the fight. Very early in the fight I realized that wasn't going to happen.

                I watch both sports and thought McGregor was very good as a striker but then Nate Diaz came in and took his soul so I knew he couldn't beat Mayweather.
                This fight to me...if you took anyone else with McGregor's advantages, there's simply no way Floyd should have won. It'd be like Jermall Charlo facing Floyd.

                The difference in this fight was experience, period. It wasn't even skill.

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                • The Gambler1981
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                  #9
                  Just to point something out Conor didn't last 10 rounds because he didn't complete round 10 he lasted nine rounds and some change.

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                  • koolkc107
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                    Originally posted by revelated
                    As a fan of both, I slightly disagree. But that's because I look at it from a different angle.

                    Floyd is 40 years old. Conor's under 30.

                    Floyd came in under 150, McGregor had a 20lb advantage.

                    McGregor had as significant reach advantage, activity advantage, height advantage, weight advantage and general strength advantage.

                    Floyd has brittle hands, on record, he'll even tell you. Floyd gave in to 8oz gloves that would have risked those hands being broken.

                    Floyd's been out of the ring for over 2 years.

                    Floyd "Money" Mayweather did something last night that NO MMA fighter has ever been able to do to Conor McGregor: stop him on his feet.

                    Conor McGregor was getting absolutely pieced by a short, lighter, 40-year old inactive fighter with brittle hands and no one-punch knockout power.

                    While I don't think it hurts MMA the sport, it certainly hurts the mythos of Conor McGregor being this totally dangerous person when you look at it from these angles. If you look at Conor's MMA fights, he gets touched a lot but never stopped from striking. And these are young, hungry fighters wearing 4oz gloves unable to do what Mayweather just did at 40 years old with 8oz gloves coming off an extended layoff.
                    And MMA as a sport has to live with all that.

                    A 40 yr old guy coming off a 2 year layoff walks down THE MOST LETHAL guy in the octagon, a guy in the prime of his career who'd never before been stopped on his feet. And that guy was backing away most of the fight, backing away from a guy not known for KOing anyone recently.

                    They have to live with all that.

                    Hopefully, the better athletes in MMA take that lesson to heart and get in the gym and start doing better.

                    As I said, take any elite 147, 154, and 160 pound boxer under 30 and that fight doesn't go past 4 or 5 rounds.

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