Comments Thread For: Golovkin-Canelo and The Right Amount of 'Marinate'

[Shadoww702]

this is not canelos 4th weight class. he started at 147 and was bearly there for a few years and never even won a title. this is his 3rd weight class if you want to be fair

Guess Again! His very 1st fight was at Super Lightweight.

Google Canelo
Click on boxingrec link
Go all way to bottom to right of Abraham Gonzalez click on click either view this event or view this bout. And you'll see Super Lightweight....You were saying again??? He also won a couple of minor belts at Welterweight. Just none of the major ones.

The NABF isn't a major one but they've had some good fighters fight for their belt like

Porter
Judah who fought Malignaggi.
Forrest

[alexjust]

That's a two way street. If Canelo wins is your excuse going to be he aged GGG??? Remind me how many weight classes GGG has fought at??? This is Canelos 4th one. Not bad at all IMO. GGG could of had some GREAT fights at 168 but he chose to stay at MW. To fight the Monroe's and house arrest Wades...

I could never understand this obsession with weight classes. Moving up or down seems to have become obligatory. Why? Staying at one weight does not in any way diminish boxer's ability.

If GGG's ambition is to become the undisputed in MW, then he will have to stay within MW, now won't he? And he mentioned that his desire to become the undisputed too many times now. If his objective was to have "great fights" then he would have moved up/down. This isn't something to criticize GGG for IMO. Hagler, also stayed only in MW (yes-yes-yes, I know you anticipated his name would pop up).

P.S. Why nobody questions heavyweights for staying at heavyweight? Surely many of them can shrink to cruiser to demonstrate their boxing skills vs just power as many heavyweights tend to do. If anything, they should be faster at cruiser, no? And I'm not saying that Joshua should melt his gigantic frame, but there are plenty of HWs who are not too tall to shrink and can play both rings.

[champion4ever]

I don't know if I agree with that assessment or not. Three weeks out from May/Mac? It doesn't like good business timing to me. This fight should haven't happened some several months ago. Now, Oscar stands the chance of losing a lot of money on the fight because its taking place only three weeks out from Mayweather/McGregor and you cannot expect consumers to shell more big money on Pay Pay view within a month's span.

[Shadoww702]

I could never understand this obsession with weight classes. Moving up or down seems to have become obligatory. Why? Staying at one weight does not in any way diminish boxer's ability.

If GGG's ambition is to become the undisputed in MW, then he will have to stay within MW, now won't he? And he mentioned that his desire to become the undisputed too many times now. If his objective was to have "great fights" then he would have moved up/down. This isn't something to criticize GGG for IMO. Hagler, also stayed only in MW (yes-yes-yes, I know you anticipated his name would pop up).

P.S. Why nobody questions heavyweights for staying at heavyweight? Surely many of them can shrink to cruiser to demonstrate their boxing skills vs just power as many heavyweights tend to do. If anything, they should be faster at cruiser, no? And I'm not saying that Joshua should melt his gigantic frame, but there are plenty of HWs who are not too tall to shrink and can play both rings.

Then why did you have a problem with Canelo if he wanted to stay at Super WW?? What was the obsesiom with him having to come up to full MW? See your cool with GGG never moving up but not with ohter fighters.

[aboutfkntime]

Fights being marinated is bad for the fans, and good for business. I want the best to fight the best, at their best. I don't care how many PPV's they do honestly. Although I hope they do well because they put in the work.
Another note to fans. When a fighter/promoter was/is being reluctant to fight a guy, and all of a sudden they want to fight them. It means they think they see something they cant take advantage of that they couldn't before. Just saying.

often true

except this time that offer had been on the table for some time

the fight was made because Team Golovkin finally accepted

the timing factor was on them, they had to take that fight now

they also refused to negotiate on weight with Canelo more than a year ago

[Shadoww702]

I don't know if I agree with that assessment or not. Three weeks out from May/Mac? It doesn't like good business timing to me. This fight should haven't happened some several months ago. Now, Oscar stands the chance of losing a lot of money on the fight because its taking place only three weeks out from Mayweather/McGregor and you cannot expect consumers to shell more big money on Pay Pay view within a month's span.

You seem to have lil faith in the MexiCAN fans. This fight will still do over 1 million buys. They'll just lose the casual fans and who cares. They're not gonna make me not buy this fight.

[aboutfkntime]

I could never understand this obsession with weight classes. Moving up or down seems to have become obligatory. Why? Staying at one weight does not in any way diminish boxer's ability.

If GGG's ambition is to become the undisputed in MW, then he will have to stay within MW, now won't he? And he mentioned that his desire to become the undisputed too many times now. If his objective was to have "great fights" then he would have moved up/down. This isn't something to criticize GGG for IMO. Hagler, also stayed only in MW (yes-yes-yes, I know you anticipated his name would pop up).

P.S. Why nobody questions heavyweights for staying at heavyweight? Surely many of them can shrink to cruiser to demonstrate their boxing skills vs just power as many heavyweights tend to do. If anything, they should be faster at cruiser, no? And I'm not saying that Joshua should melt his gigantic frame, but there are plenty of HWs who are not too tall to shrink and can play both rings.

it diminishes his opportunities

by dropping a couple of pounds, Canelo got to fight Mayweather

by moving up, he gets to fight Golovkin

Mr " anyone from 154-168 " should have made those big fights

a guy who insists that he can beat anyone from 154-168, should have negotiated on weight with lil old faded 153lb Cotto

just saying.....

[StrangerInTown]

One year too late and eclipsed by the awful FMJ / McGregor debacle as well. GGG wins this by late KO but the interest has been seriously impacted. De La Hoya miscalculated and the loss will be fiscal as well as on the Gingerbread record.

[aboutfkntime]

hmmm well if it isn't happening I can't understand why I can't find a ticket for less than $800. The fights is still nearly a month away and there is a lot of pub for the Mayweather-McGregor fight this weekend. Still say it will underperform expectations (just a gut feeling) and GGG-Canelo will surpass 1MM buys.

agreed

I would be amazed if the " event " sold more than Pac/May

that would be ludicrous

I think it will sell maybe 2 - 2.5mil

and I think Canelo/Golovkin will easily sell 1mil

[kushking]

Canelo called Golovkin to the ring after he KO'd Khan, in May 2016 & said he'd fight him. Before the end of that same month, he handed over his WBC belt rather than fight the man he publicly called out. 15 months later or 3 months shy of 1.5 years later, they are fighting. I'm a fight fan, not a Golovkin employee. I want to see him fight the best. Brook stepped up when Ginger wouldn't. Clownelo & Oscar waited for Golovkin to age & show some vulnerability. It's a shame you can't see that. After Golovkin beats your hero, I'll enjoy the sweet silence of you vanishing from these threads on the subject.

Dumb ass explain to me when was canelo supposed to fight ggg since the day he vacated, considering bbb was busy vs ww & who he thought was bum glassjaw by his trainers own words?
gggs own promoter has stated he had an offer with a 8 figure gaurantee this ENTIRE time but that he wanted almost half the purse,ggg has gone on mexican tv saying the same,he has been all over youtube saying the same.

He was willing to take 3 mil flat fee when a welter said jump,as the bbb side,zero ppv upside,weeks after he said kahn fighting canelo 8 lbs heavy was a disgrace to boxing but then made brook fight 12 lbs heavy. Oh right its a disgrace to boxing to cw when it benefits his tiny glass skull opponent,but when he ducked ward & demanded cw its different. In my sig the links back up the hypocrit cherrypicker your god is. And you have the audacity to claim him fighting brook is ok,that proves what a nutthugger u are, he could've cw brook,he could've fought Lara/Andrade/Charlos/trout who all called him ***** & wanted it at 160,but not hypocrit bbb who flipflops more than mittromney negotiating with a mormon hooker,hed rather fight a ww nohoper.

Your another ****** on here making excuses now that the fights happening despite u claiming 4 mos that it wouldn't anywhere near so soon. Your getting excuses in early doe as you CLEARLY would've rather the fight not happened as evidenced by u crying your idol was aged by a few mos,your a disgrace to boxing fans with the fallacies u leak out your ass.
Its not canelos fault bbb is old af & fought NOBODY til jacobs,its not canelos fault that bbb CLEARLY is a hypocrit hypejob whos yet to face a single non vacant undefended champ, or that the 1st blevel opponent hes fought whooped him. Ggg has been chasing a jmw whos 5'9 & a 2 yrs retired ww whos 5'9(mayweather),but held a press conference saying hes ducking jacobs 4 life,& wont defend his paper belts if he wins now that mw isn't as bum filled. Funny how gggs career is being defined by a jmw hes fighting at 35,& stop with this nonsense claiming canelos a smw,as that would mean ggg is a true lhw.