Why didn't Hagler challenge himself

[IronDanHamza]

past it? he had barely touched 30 yrs old. never been stopped, and was definitely not shopworn. that "retirement" was more him putting himself on the shelf, getting his eye socket together, getting acclimated to walking around @ 160 lbs, and more importantly, waiting for hagler to lose a step, imo

I'm trying to figure out who you trying to s**t on harder, srl or marv

"Not shopworn" Are you seriously implying he wasn't past it at that point?

You really are a comedian.

3 years inactive, had to retire for a severely damaged eye, first fight at Middleweight after no tune ups just 3 years inactivity, was getting dropped and beaten up in sparring.

Oh what a risk!!!! Hagler was expected to crush Leonard. Was not considered a risk in any way shape or form.

[djtmal]

Leonard wasn't prime, but neither was Hagler. Leonard was very calculated about that whole fight and though he didn't deserve the win he just had to make it close and he knew he'd get it.

Leonard's not prime is better than 99.9999% of histories fighters same with Hagler's. The 1987 version of each is special and much better than any version of guys like Hatton, 38 year old Mosley, post 2012 Pacquaio etc; as examples of some fighters I've seen as lauded better than the fab four on this forum.

Exxxxactly

I can't think of anyone from this era who could pull off what Srl, pulled off, in 1987.

[djtmal]

"Not shopworn" Are you seriously implying he wasn't past it at that point?

You really are a comedian.

3 years inactive, had to retire for a severely damaged eye, first fight at Middleweight after no tune ups just 3 years inactivity, was getting dropped and beaten up in sparring.

Oh what a risk!!!! Hagler was expected to crush Leonard. Was not considered a risk in any way shape or form.

Damn right not shopworn. You making seem like, Srl, was getting his ass kicked on the regular before he retired in 1984, when you know that wasn't the case. He barely had what 30 some odd fights at that time, and only hit the deck 1 time, vs. Kevin Howard. What Srl did was special, and should only speak to why he is considered top 10 all-time on everybody who matters, list. Without that Hagler win, I bet the ranch Srl is top 20 all-time at best.

So yes, in 1987, Srl was not consdered a risk for Marvin, Marvin was favored heavily, but I remember an interview where they asked Tommy Hearns who he thought would win, he said Srl and everybody thought he was crazy, but Tommy knew something the world didn't about Srl. I bet, if Marvin Hagler, hadn't underestimated Srl, he wouldn't have switched up his stance in the early rounds, and gave up those first three or four rounds the way he did. Those were the rounds that cost him the fight imo. Sugar was sucking wind in the late rounds.

[IronDanHamza]

Damn right not shopworn. You making seem like, Srl, was getting his ass kicked on the regular before he retired in 1984, when you know that wasn't the case. He barely had what 30 some odd fights at that time, and only hit the deck 1 time, vs. Kevin Howard. What Srl did was special, and should only speak to why he is considered top 10 all-time on everybody who matters, list. Without that Hagler win, I bet the ranch Srl is top 20 all-time at best.

So yes, in 1987, Srl was not consdered a risk for Marvin, Marvin was favored heavily, but I remember an interview where they asked Tommy Hearns who he thought would win, he said Srl and everybody thought he was crazy, but Tommy knew something the world didn't about Srl. I bet, if Marvin Hagler, hadn't underestimated Srl, he wouldn't have switched up his stance in the early rounds, and gave up those first three or four rounds the way he did. Those were the rounds that cost him the fight imo. Sugar was sucking wind in the late rounds.

He was a shell of his former shelf.

Not a big risk at all.

A faded retired name attempted to add to his resume.

[djtmal]

He was a shell of his former shelf.

Not a big risk at all.

A faded retired name attempted to add to his resume.

like i said, i don't know who you trying to sh** on more, srl, for being more special than you want to give him credit for, or hagler for losing to him...

[Beercules]

Doesn't want to be great.

[Raggamuffin]

Get the **** out of your mouth and speak clearly. Don't engage me then if you dont want a response. I've already been through this Hagler bit 3x over the last few months.

You need a ****en job, an education, and a life. Get away from the keyboard you ****en degenerate and go get a girl or guy or whatever your preference is. This message board isn't for you loser.

[Raggamuffin]

It's not about you having Golovkin at your top 5, it's you liking others for the same thing and maybe less accomplishments.

When people like you have no real argument, they bust out the bigot card. You're the real ****** motherfucker here with a sprinkle of hypocrisy

Argument for what? You thinking that I should like GG because you're saying that his career parallels Buds and Wilders? Lmfao.
And you're the one crying race loser. I like GG. I didn't him before he fought Jacobs. That is well documented here. Foh loser.

[IronDanHamza]

like i said, i don't know who you trying to sh** on more, srl, for being more special than you want to give him credit for, or hagler for losing to him...

Not ****ting on either.

I'm ****ting on you for the hilarious notion that Hagler took some kind of big risk by fighting Ray Leonard coming off a 3 year lay off at 160 lbs.

[djtmal]

Not ****ting on either.

I'm ****ting on you for the hilarious notion that Hagler took some kind of big risk by fighting Ray Leonard coming off a 3 year lay off at 160 lbs.

naw, you must have bet money on hagler