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  • Mr.Fantastic
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    #141
    Originally posted by Raggamuffin
    You can bring up race if you want, but that's my top 5. And GG's resume isn't great, it's good. He stepped up his comp as of late. it's no fault of his own that his resume isn't greater than what it is, and that's how I judge him.
    Yet you hate on him and not on the other two considering they're on the same boat. Just admit it, it's because he's not black and isn't on a resume from a guy you like.

    Crawford has the best chance to have a better resume, hope he fights the top guys at WW.

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    • McNulty
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      #142
      Originally posted by Raggamuffin
      Now here is one clueless ****, lmao. This is what's wrong with boxing fans of today. They only recognize the "name" fighters on a guys resume and not the comp. This has GG overtones written all over it lol.
      What the fùck are you yammering about? You're not another one of these guys sucking Haglers **** becuase you were told to are you?

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      • IronDanHamza
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        #143
        Originally posted by djtmal
        srl, is a top ten, bonafide, atg at any weight, and hagler didn't challenge himself...

        close this thread please
        Oh yeah a past it Ray Leonard after a 3 year retirement and his first ever fight at Middleweight.

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        • Raggamuffin
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          #144
          Originally posted by Mr.Fantastic
          Yet you hate on him and not on the other two considering they're on the same boat. Just admit it, it's because he's not black and isn't on a resume from a guy you like.

          Crawford has the best chance to have a better resume, hope he fights the top guys at WW.
          You're one ****** mother****er you know that? Just one ****** mother****er. GG isn't in my top 5. That might bother you but he's not in my top 5 cry baby. And I don't hate or hate on GG. After he beat Jacobs I had him at #3 pfp. So gtfooh with your garbage bigot.

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            #145
            Originally posted by McNulty
            What the fùck are you yammering about? You're not another one of
            Stfu and talk to somebody else. And come back when you're ready to give a real boxing answer clown.

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            • chrisJS
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              #146
              Originally posted by Sheldon312
              Floyd started at 125 and went up to 154, Many started at featherweight and went up to 147, Duran started at 119 and went up to 160, Oscar started at 130 and went up to 168. There are countless other examples so Hagler not going up because "there was no 168 is not an excuse"
              And with the exception of Duran how many of those guys became the undisputed champion of their division? 0

              De La Hoya didn't go up to 168. He fought at Middleweight twice but catch-weight of 157.

              Hagler fought in the day of same day weigh-ins so makes it harder to cherry pick the weights/matches like that.

              If a fighter can make his weight and the weight class is great why must one move up so far? You have to remember there were less divisions and he was in a lucrative glamour division and he was the undisputed champ.

              Hagler fought an excellent era and landed matches with the three superstars of his generation right at the end. It would have been insane to move up to a huge light heavyweight like Spinks (who won a heavyweight title) for way less money and prestige than came by fighting Hearns, Leonard and Duran.

              Were Willie Pep, Benny Leonard, Harry Greb, Carlos Monzon really inferior to Broner, Leo Gamez?

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              • Mr.Fantastic
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                #147
                Originally posted by Raggamuffin
                You're one ****** mother****er you know that? Just one ****** mother****er. GG isn't in my top 5. That might bother you but he's not in my top 5 cry baby. And I don't hate or hate on GG. After he beat Jacobs I had him at #3 pfp. So gtfooh with your garbage bigot.
                It's not about you having Golovkin at your top 5, it's you liking others for the same thing and maybe less accomplishments.

                When people like you have no real argument, they bust out the bigot card. You're the real ****** motherfucker here with a sprinkle of hypocrisy

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                  #148
                  Originally posted by IronDanHamza
                  Oh yeah a past it Ray Leonard after a 3 year retirement and his first ever fight at Middleweight.
                  past it? he had barely touched 30 yrs old. never been stopped, and was definitely not shopworn. that "retirement" was more him putting himself on the shelf, getting his eye socket together, getting acclimated to walking around @ 160 lbs, and more importantly, waiting for hagler to lose a step, imo

                  I'm trying to figure out who you trying to s**t on harder, srl or marv

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                  • chrisJS
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                    #149
                    Originally posted by djtmal
                    past it? he had barely touched 30 yrs old. never been stopped, and was definitely not shopworn. that "retirement" was more him putting himself on the shelf, getting his eye socket together, getting acclimated to walking around @ 160 lbs, and more importantly, waiting for hagler to lose a step, imo

                    I'm trying to figure out who you trying to s**t on harder, srl or marv
                    Leonard wasn't prime, but neither was Hagler. Leonard was very calculated about that whole fight and though he didn't deserve the win he just had to make it close and he knew he'd get it.

                    Leonard's not prime is better than 99.9999% of histories fighters same with Hagler's. The 1987 version of each is special and much better than any version of guys like Hatton, 38 year old Mosley, post 2012 Pacquaio etc; as examples of some fighters I've seen as lauded better than the fab four on this forum.

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                    • McNulty
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                      #150
                      Originally posted by Raggamuffin
                      Stfu and talk to somebody else. And come back when you're ready to give a real boxing answer clown.
                      Get the **** out of your mouth and speak clearly. Don't engage me then if you dont want a response. I've already been through this Hagler bit 3x over the last few months.

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