GGGgets crticized for having a bad resume. Why doesnt the same happen to Crawford?

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  • KingHippo
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    #61
    Originally posted by sicko
    Once again HYPE! Have yet see a thread about Crawford being "THE GREATEST Jr. Welterweight EVER! Not only that but Crawford is also just getting started, just hitting his stride as a Prime Fighter Crawford is not near the end. The Resume Improves like at 147 IF Arum allows him to fight other top guys at 147 when he does move up. Also last time I checked Crawford been calling for Pacquiao for 2 years now. That WOULD be the boost to his Resume even a older Pacquiao now but it is not his fault Pacquiao doesn't want to fight him
    Exactly. There isn't a cult around Crawford. Nobody is moving for him to be declared #1 P4P or use terms like the "eurocutionner" to describe him.

    My hate for Golovkin comes form his insecure white fanbase and racist anti-black fanbase who want to see black fighters lose to make up for their weak midget bodies and 3 inch penises.

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    • Curt Henning
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      #62
      Originally posted by TonyGe
      Ok. Some Golovkin fans want to put him up with Manny, Floyd and Oscar. There vocal but they are in the minority. Golovkin is a come forward pressure fighter with excellent boxing skills. He delivers knockouts and people like that. Why is that so hard to underdstand...I personally would rather watch a guy that can deliver a knockout over a guy that moves around the ring and potshots. It doesn't mean I don't appreciate their boxing skills or think they aren't talented. It's a matter of personal preference. My two favorite fighters are Duran and Hearns. So why would I rather watch a guy run around the ring. Take Lara for example. In his fight with Canelo he did well but there were stretches that he forgot that in order to win you have to punch your opponent not just move around the ring. That cost him the fight.
      being a guy that delivers knockouts is cool...but you just went off topic....i mean...wilder delivers knockouts too....the competition level isnt there......i would admit golovkins resume is better...but its not good

      curtis stevens was stopped by marcos primera and beaten by jesse brinkley...those guys are club fighters....geale was stopped by cotto and cotto has no business in the ring with real 160lbers.....a guy like lemiuex, if hes anything, shouldnt be losing to joachime alcine i dont care at what age/stage of his career it was for lemiuex.......golovkins resume lacks talent.....if hes out here knocking out jacobs and andre wards than yeah we would be giving him credit.......hes beating C level comp most of the time out with some low B's and a legit B+ in jacobs....GGG brought up a WW two classes FFS

      Canelo has NO resume in the division that Golovkin has spent his entire career in.....what would make this win special for Golovkin?

      Kovalev was a come forward killer too...until he met a supremely talented boxer and was made to quit.....

      Im not saying you cant be a fan of golovkin...he is good and has a friendly style...just dont go around acting/talking like he is some great/legend

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      • Sheldon312
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        #63
        Originally posted by KingHippo
        Exactly. There isn't a cult around Crawford. Nobody is moving for him to be declared #1 P4P or use terms like the "eurocutionner" to describe him.

        My hate for Golovkin comes form his insecure white fanbase and racist anti-black fanbase who want to see black fighters lose to make up for their weak midget bodies and 3 inch penises.
        I have made post about this also. You shouldn't want a fighter of a particular race to lose. you should want them to challenge themselves, same with every other fighter.

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        • TonyGe
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          #64
          Originally posted by Sheldon312
          He doesn't need Pacquiao. He could've fought Brook, Thurman, Porter, Danny, Spence. Why feed off an old lion when you can go up and fight great fighter intheir prime. oscar did it, Hearns did it, Hagler did it, Manny Did It, Floyd did it, and many others. Why is he an exception to the rule. Hell, why is GGG an exception. You don't want to admit it but race plays a factor.
          Sorry I have to call bull**** on this post. Marvin Hagler who was a tremendous fighter never moved up. Why? Two words Micheal Spinks. You would have to be an idiot to think Hagler would beat Spinks at LH. Does that take anything away from the brilliance of Hagler. No! Use you eyes and brain and look at Hagler's skill set. He could fight from both stances equally well. Had a rock solid chin. He could fight on the inside or from the outside. Good hand speed, great combination punching. But he never moved up...Hagler was simply too small for Spinks and Spinks was too good.

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          • sicko
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            #65
            Originally posted by Sheldon312
            He doesn't need Pacquiao. He could've fought Brook, Thurman, Porter, Danny, Spence. Why feed off an old lion when you can go up and fight great fighter intheir prime. oscar did it, Hearns did it, Hagler did it, Manny Did It, Floyd did it, and many others. Why is he an exception to the rule. Hell, why is GGG an exception. You don't want to admit it but race plays a factor.
            Proving my point even further! Crawford is really just getting STARTED he still have a chance to fight most of if not all those fighters when he moves up

            You kinda all over the place now with the Old Lions and now you want to drag race into into it when NOBODY has mentioned Race. So basically this is you guys out on this forum, when things get heated and you can't win a debate lets make a left turn down Race Card Blvd. and the sad thing is the Race Card is not even used correctly by IDIOTS LIKE YOU! I can play this game with you if you want but I will leave you feeling ******!

            You're Drowning Kid!
            Last edited by sicko; 08-09-2017, 02:50 PM.

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            • Sheldon312
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              #66
              Originally posted by Curt Henning
              being a guy that delivers knockouts is cool...but you just went off topic....i mean...wilder delivers knockouts too....the competition level isnt there......i would admit golovkins resume is better...but its not good

              curtis stevens was stopped by marcos primera and beaten by jesse brinkley...those guys are club fighters....geale was stopped by cotto and cotto has no business in the ring with real 160lbers.....a guy like lemiuex, if hes anything, shouldnt be losing to joachime alcine i dont care at what age/stage of his career it was for lemiuex.......golovkins resume lacks talent.....if hes out here knocking out jacobs and andre wards than yeah we would be giving him credit.......hes beating C level comp most of the time out with some low B's and a legit B+ in jacobs....GGG brought up a WW two classes FFS

              Canelo has NO resume in the division that Golovkin has spent his entire career in.....what would make this win special for Golovkin?

              Kovalev was a come forward killer too...until he met a supremely talented boxer and was made to quit.....

              Im not saying you cant be a fan of golovkin...he is good and has a friendly style...just dont go around acting/talking like he is some great/legend
              GGG was ducked. He couldn't help it if nobody wanted to fight him. Crawford, on the other hand, is not being ducked. He is just fighting in a ****ty division.

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              • -Kev-
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                #67
                1. Crawford has never been praised as being #2 P4P.

                2. His age, he's young and his resume is getting better and it includes a guy that his critics say he was ducking (Postol) at a weight class above where he started.

                3. He's been Ring champion in both weight classes he's been in, and chances are when ever he moves up to 147, he may be able to do the same there.

                4. His trainer has never called everyone out from 135 to 147.

                5. His fans do not make threads about him being able to beat Leonard, Hearns or Duran like GGG vs Hagler/Hopkins/Robinson threads.

                6. His fans don't argue that if Crawford wanted to, he could go up to 154 and beat Lara or Charlo, but that he just doesn't feel like it because he still has business with Orozco or Prograis.

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                • Kigali
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                  #68
                  Originally posted by Sheldon312
                  GGG was ducked. He couldn't help it if nobody wanted to fight him. Crawford, on the other hand, is not being ducked. He is just fighting in a ****ty division.
                  That trash was never ducked....the lowball offers from his camp were ducked.

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                  • Sheldon312
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                    #69
                    Originally posted by sicko
                    Proving my point even further! Crawford is really just getting STARTED he still have a chance to fight most of if not all those fighters when he moves up

                    You kinda all over the place now with the Old Lions and now you want to drag race into into it when NOBODY has mentioned Race. So basically this is you guys out on this forum, when things get heated and you can't when at debate lets make a left turn down Race Card Blvd. and the sad thing is the Race Card is not even used correctly by IDIOTS LIKE YOU! I can play this game with you if you want but I will leave you feeling ******!

                    You're Drowning Kid!
                    I brought up race because there seems to be a US vs THEM mentality here on this forum. Now, I must admit that it's usually GGG fans who do this but the black fight fans do it also. All i'm asking is why is Crawford ranked so high when there are other fighters who have similar if not better resumes. Same goes for GGG. I actually have Canelo neck and neck due to the fact that he has a slightly better resume.

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                    • Curt Henning
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                      #70
                      Originally posted by Sheldon312
                      GGG was ducked. He couldn't help it if nobody wanted to fight him. Crawford, on the other hand, is not being ducked. He is just fighting in a ****ty division.
                      GGG was being ducked by whom? A guy like Cotto who isnt a mw? or a guy like canelo who is 27 and has 0 wins at MW? or was he ducked by jacobs...oh wait he fought him........ummm....so was he ducked by degale or andre ward or someone else

                      you can say saunders ducked him....but when other guys wait things out, because they are younger, its considered a duck....but of course when ggg ducked ward to wait it out for canelo is a "smart business decision" right?

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