GGGgets crticized for having a bad resume. Why doesnt the same happen to Crawford?

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  • TonyGe
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    #71
    Originally posted by KingHippo
    Exactly. There isn't a cult around Crawford. Nobody is moving for him to be declared #1 P4P or use terms like the "eurocutionner" to describe him.

    My hate for Golovkin comes form his insecure white fanbase and racist anti-black fanbase who want to see black fighters lose to make up for their weak midget bodies and 3 inch penises.
    So you act like a racist because you are forced into it?? No acting like a racist is a personal choice. You pick how you respond.

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    • Sheldon312
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      #72
      Originally posted by TonyGe
      Sorry I have to call bull**** on this post. Marvin Hagler who was a tremendous fighter never moved up. Why? Two words Micheal Spinks. You would have to be an idiot to think Hagler would beat Spinks at LH. Does that take anything away from the brilliance of Hagler. No! Use you eyes and brain and look at Hagler's skill set. He could fight from both stances equally well. Had a rock solid chin. He could fight on the inside or from the outside. Good hand speed, great combination punching. But he never moved up...Hagler was simply too small for Spinks and Spinks was too good.
      Fair enough. For all the **** we give Roy Jones, nobody mentions the fact that during Hagler's era, the MW division wasn't that great.

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      • KingHippo
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        #73
        Originally posted by Sheldon312
        I have made post about this also. You shouldn't want a fighter of a particular race to lose. you should want them to challenge themselves, same with every other fighter.
        What the hell does that have to do with what I said? Crawford took 3 years to unify the division and it's his second one. He also expressed desire to move up. He didn't camp for 10 years in a *****ty division like Golovkin and believe me, none of his fans will respect him if he camps at 140 for the next 7 years without at least fighting Thurman or Spence.

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          #74
          Neither guy deserves to be criticized. Both have beaten everyone available to them. They don't fight in the best divisions, but still they are getting it done.

          Also Postol is pretty damn good. Don't forget Danny ducked him. I think Garcia would have been soundly outboxed by Postol. Burns is a good fighter in his own right.

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          • KingHippo
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            #75
            Originally posted by TonyGe
            So you act like a racist because you are forced into it?? No acting like a racist is a personal choice. You pick how you respond.
            What was racist about what I said? That Golovkin has a racist fan base that root for him to cover up for their insecurities?

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            • TonyGe
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              #76
              Originally posted by Curt Henning
              being a guy that delivers knockouts is cool...but you just went off topic....i mean...wilder delivers knockouts too....the competition level isnt there......i would admit golovkins resume is better...but its not good

              curtis stevens was stopped by marcos primera and beaten by jesse brinkley...those guys are club fighters....geale was stopped by cotto and cotto has no business in the ring with real 160lbers.....a guy like lemiuex, if hes anything, shouldnt be losing to joachime alcine i dont care at what age/stage of his career it was for lemiuex.......golovkins resume lacks talent.....if hes out here knocking out jacobs and andre wards than yeah we would be giving him credit.......hes beating C level comp most of the time out with some low B's and a legit B+ in jacobs....GGG brought up a WW two classes FFS

              Canelo has NO resume in the division that Golovkin has spent his entire career in.....what would make this win special for Golovkin?

              Kovalev was a come forward killer too...until he met a supremely talented boxer and was made to quit.....

              Im not saying you cant be a fan of golovkin...he is good and has a friendly style...just dont go around acting/talking like he is some great/legend
              Canelo is a good fighter so a win over him would somewhat of an accomplishment. Is it career defining. No. I fully expect him to beat Canelo. I give him more credit for beating Jacobs on points than beating Canelo because Jacobs is a better boxer than Canelo in my mind.

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                #77
                Originally posted by KingHippo
                What the hell does that have to do with what I said? Crawford took 3 years to unify the division and it's his second one. He also expressed desire to move up. He didn't camp for 10 years in a *****ty division like Golovkin and believe me, none of his fans will respect him if he camps at 140 for the next 7 years without at least fighting Thurman or Spence.
                I was replying to the comment of people wanting to see other people lose. You forget that Crawford is almost 30 and that when Pac and Floyd were at his age, they were already superstars and considered all time greats.

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                  #78
                  Originally posted by -Antonio-
                  Neither guy deserves to be criticized. Both have beaten everyone available to them. They don't fight in the best divisions, but still they are getting it done.

                  Also Postol is pretty damn good. Don't forget Danny ducked him. I think Garcia would have been soundly outboxed by Postol. Burns is a good fighter in his own right.
                  No, just no. I have no doubt that Danny would've stopped Postol. He beat Lucas more convincingly and he defeated Khan who is head and shoulders above Postol. Please dont bring up Ricky Burns, he has always been a a bum.

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                  • KingHippo
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                    #79
                    Originally posted by Sheldon312
                    I was replying to the comment of people wanting to see other people lose. You forget that Crawford is almost 30 and that when Pac and Floyd were at his age, they were already superstars and considered all time greats.
                    No one is comparing Crawford to Pac or Floyd. I honestly couldn't care less.

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                      #80
                      Originally posted by JK1700
                      GGG is 6 years older than Crawford and gets a hell of a lot more hype and talk about him. Like when he said he would fight anyone from 154 to 168 then rejected Lara and Ward when they tried to fight him. I like him too, but these are just facts his people have talked the talk but he's yet to walk the walk. Crawford has fought a few top guys (Burns, Gamboa, Postol etc) but he's still under 30 and unlike GGG has moved up. It's all to do with the talking. GGG's camp talks and hypes him up a lot, which is fine, but then he needs to fight top competition not just contenders.
                      like when wards team said he could beat anthony joshua? Like when errol spence said he could beat golovkin at 160 right now?

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