Why is Erik Morales generally rated higher than Marquez?

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  • Death_Adder
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    #71
    Originally posted by Johnny Steele
    The thing is anthony that mexicans used to get credit for being brave and tough.

    Marquez is an old guy. but he is definitely a "modern fighter"
    a far as menatlity goes. He is a *****..

    When did Chavez (sr) Barrera, Morales, Olivares, Lopez
    etc ever duck?

    You have modern mexican fighters like Johny Gonzalez, Jorge Arce, Margarito etc That duck nobody.

    Then you have the f@ggots...
    Chavez (jr) Canelo, Marquez etc
    You're a moron. You don't know shit.

    Red K for being a trolling twat and for having a gay porn star name.

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    • New England
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      #72
      Originally posted by Dinamita 03
      Two different career paths. Morales had more success during their physical prime years, but was basically burnt out by his early 30's.

      He lacked the heart and dedication that Marquez showed throughout his career.

      It's funny hearing people talk about PED's when Morales was the one being caught. He also quit agianst Pacquiao deciding to stay on the canvas rather than keep on fightjng,and like a diva demanded his opponents wear specific gloves.


      please stop trying to rewrite history. marquez idea of an efficient performance was to counterpunch and slow the pace of fights down during his prime. it was only later on, when he'd slowed down and had to take shots that he used to be able to avoid and counter, that he turned into the blood and guts warrior. that doesn't mean we take away from his blood and guts performances, but don't compare him to morales, whose idea of an efficient fight was punching you in the mouth and calling your girlfriend a b#Tch. you probably didn't watch a lot of boxing when marquez was known as a safe counterpuncher living in the shadow of his two more exciting [and perceived as "more mexican"] countrymen.

      believe me, if marquez could ahve avoided going to war with diaz and katsidis he would have just boxed and countered them. what happened was his legs, which he used to use to skuttle away after he landed big shots, ended up taking him to the ropes or forcing him to exchange in teh middle of the ring.


      what marquez had that you're mixing up with a lack of heart on morales part was a clean lifestyle, no weight gaining between fights, and a style in the ring that lended itself to a longer career. morales was a very solid boxer and technician, but he was always a warrior and would slug it out at the drop of a hat. at the weigh in, in the first round when his legs were fresh and he could box if he could, at a local speakeasy, wherever!

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      • Amandlala
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        #73
        Originally posted by New England
        please stop trying to rewrite history. marquez idea of an efficient performance was to counterpunch and slow the pace of fights down during his prime. it was only later on, when he'd slowed down and had to take shots that he used to be able to avoid and counter, that he turned into the blood and guts warrior. that doesn't mean we take away from his blood and guts performances, but don't compare him to morales, whose idea of an efficient fight was punching you in the mouth and calling your girlfriend a b#Tch. you probably didn't watch a lot of boxing when marquez was known as a safe counterpuncher living in the shadow of his two more exciting [and perceived as "more mexican"] countrymen.

        believe me, if marquez could ahve avoided going to war with diaz and katsidis he would have just boxed and countered them. what happened was his legs, which he used to use to skuttle away after he landed big shots, ended up taking him to the ropes or forcing him to exchange in teh middle of the ring.


        what marquez had that you're mixing up with a lack of heart on morales part was a clean lifestyle, no weight gaining between fights, and a style in the ring that lended itself to a longer career. morales was a very solid boxer and technician, but he was always a warrior and would slug it out at the drop of a hat. at the weigh in, in the first round when his legs were fresh and he could box if he could, at a local speakeasy, wherever!
        All of this.

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        • .!WAR MIKEY!.
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          #74
          IF you dont know YDKSAB

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          • Dinamita 03
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            #75
            Originally posted by New England
            please stop trying to rewrite history. marquez idea of an efficient performance was to counterpunch and slow the pace of fights down during his prime. it was only later on, when he'd slowed down and had to take shots that he used to be able to avoid and counter, that he turned into the blood and guts warrior. that doesn't mean we take away from his blood and guts performances, but don't compare him to morales, whose idea of an efficient fight was punching you in the mouth and calling your girlfriend a b#Tch. you probably didn't watch a lot of boxing when marquez was known as a safe counterpuncher living in the shadow of his two more exciting [and perceived as "more mexican"] countrymen.

            believe me, if marquez could ahve avoided going to war with diaz and katsidis he would have just boxed and countered them. what happened was his legs, which he used to use to skuttle away after he landed big shots, ended up taking him to the ropes or forcing him to exchange in teh middle of the ring.


            what marquez had that you're mixing up with a lack of heart on morales part was a clean lifestyle, no weight gaining between fights, and a style in the ring that lended itself to a longer career. morales was a very solid boxer and technician, but he was always a warrior and would slug it out at the drop of a hat. at the weigh in, in the first round when his legs were fresh and he could box if he could, at a local speakeasy, wherever!
            Never knew that about Marquez, I've only ever seen his fight against Pacquiao.

            Point I was making, and one you can't refute is that Marquez never quit regardless of how many times he went down. You can't say the same about Morales.

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            • Johnny Steele
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              #76
              Originally posted by soul_survivor
              Also ducked Hamed and then moaned about it.
              You are full of sh'it.
              Hamed ducked Morales, Marquez, Norwood and some other Euro bum. That's just of the top of my head.

              Nas only ever fought one non bum.
              And he lost.

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              • Johnny Steele
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                #77
                Originally posted by New England
                please stop trying to rewrite history. marquez idea of an efficient performance was to counterpunch and slow the pace of fights down during his prime. it was only later on, when he'd slowed down and had to take shots that he used to be able to avoid and counter, that he turned into the blood and guts warrior. that doesn't mean we take away from his blood and guts performances, but don't compare him to morales, whose idea of an efficient fight was punching you in the mouth and calling your girlfriend a b#Tch. you probably didn't watch a lot of boxing when marquez was known as a safe counterpuncher living in the shadow of his two more exciting [and perceived as "more mexican"] countrymen.

                believe me, if marquez could ahve avoided going to war with diaz and katsidis he would have just boxed and countered them. what happened was his legs, which he used to use to skuttle away after he landed big shots, ended up taking him to the ropes or forcing him to exchange in teh middle of the ring.


                what marquez had that you're mixing up with a lack of heart on morales part was a clean lifestyle, no weight gaining between fights, and a style in the ring that lended itself to a longer career. morales was a very solid boxer and technician, but he was always a warrior and would slug it out at the drop of a hat. at the weigh in, in the first round when his legs were fresh and he could box if he could, at a local speakeasy, wherever!
                Great post. You're quite smart for a "homeboy".
                The fact you are a Ward fan disgusts me though.

                It's amazing how these scum are trying to rewrite history.
                The part below in particular.

                Originally posted by New England
                you probably didn't watch a lot of boxing when marquez was known as a safe counterpuncher living in the shadow of his two more exciting [and perceived as "more mexican"] countrymen.






                Originally posted by Death_Adder
                You're a moron. You don't know shit.

                Red K for being a trolling twat and for having a gay porn star name.
                Hahaha
                You have a picture of Roidquez and conelo.
                You are literally a fan of fake mexicans.
                Hahaha

                I Don't know who you are.
                But I assure you I am far superior to you at every Golden Axe game you sniveling rat b@stard.

                Originally posted by .!WAR MIKEY!.
                IF you dont know YDKSAB
                Well put.

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                • hugh grant
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                  #78
                  Morales has beaten prime barrera and beaten Pac as well.
                  His resume is a bit better rounded.

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                  • Johnny Steele
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                    #79
                    Originally posted by Dinamita 03
                    Never knew that about Marquez, I've only ever seen his fight against Pacquiao.

                    Point I was making, and one you can't refute is that Marquez never quit regardless of how many times he went down. You can't say the same about Morales.
                    He quit mentally against Chris John, Norwood, Bradley and even
                    feather fisted Mayweather made him stop trying to win.

                    Just to be clear.
                    You are attempting to argue Chicken Marquez had more heart than Warrior Morales?

                    Guys like Edwin Valero had that pi55 drinking geek runnin for the hills.

                    Dude was a pi55 drinking, roid abusing, fight ducking, heartless f@ggot.

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                    • soul_survivor
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                      #80
                      Originally posted by McNulty
                      Morales didn't duck Hamed you f@cking tw@t.
                      I'm talking about jmm you ******

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