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  • #81
    Yes he is...end

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    • #82
      Originally posted by mlac View Post
      some free advice m8: stick larry, kigali and all the race baiters on your ignore list. it makes for much easier forum reading

      hth bruh
      A stumpy race baiter crying about race-baiting.

      They can dish it out....but they can't take it....just like their Russian heroes.

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      • #83
        Absolutely! Given his BODY OF WORK! Ruled 168, now sits at the Top of 175 and is now looking to push himself even further by fighting at possibly Heavyweight which I think is Crazy but I have to respect it just for trying regardless if he wins or lose. So yes P4P King Status was EARNED the Right Way and not built off of PURE HYPE!

        With respect to Ward though...If Crawford unify in a couple of weeks I have to put him #1 for now until Ward fight Again for making HISTORY for himself!

        Hard to have a serious conversation with all the Mentally Ill Fans who Troll this forum Daily just for some attention so of course you will get the dumb Post with the same Childish BS!

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        • #84
          Originally posted by ScottWeiland View Post
          I don't even know where to start with this post.

          The Ring magazine has zero credibility, hence why anyone genuine boxing fan uses the TBRB rankings.

          I scored the Ward Kovalev fight to Ward and the Jacobs vs GGG fight to Jacobs, two completely different fights and in no way comparable, the second fight of Kovalev and Ward had Ward picking up exactly where he left off in the first fight, he had Kovalev figured out and looking for a way out of the ring, the referee picked up on it as did everyone else who has not a biased outlook on the fight.
          The truth Kovalev was looking for a way out..

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          • #85
            Originally posted by GhostofDempsey View Post
            While many black men who I admire are also great fighters. You conveniently look past that fact. Guys like you aren't happy unless everyone is sucking Floyd's tiny pee-pee, and if they don't they are naturally racists.
            funny how you jump to floyd in a ward thread....keep hating son...keep hating..lol

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            • #86
              Originally posted by larryxxx. View Post
              funny how you jump to floyd in a ward thread....keep hating son...keep hating..lol
              GhostofDempsey is shook by Brothers...just like the guy in his Avi

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              • #87
                Originally posted by VG_Addict View Post
                Ward is listed as the #1 P4P fighter in the sport right now, and I'm not sure why. His resume looks impressive, but several of his wins should have asterisks next to them.

                Dawson: Ward fought a weight-drained Dawson, rather than move up to LHW to fight him.

                Kovalev: Won a debatable decision in the first fight, and fouled numerous times in the second one.

                Kessler: Headbutted a lot in this fight.
                Respectfully, this is ridiculous. We can do this sort of garbage for every win by every fighter.

                Ward is undefeated and has a resume as good as any active fighter in the sport. IMO he deserves to be ranked #1 p4p.

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                • #88
                  why is there so much anger directed at Ward?? he did everything yall said he wouldnt do.....................YET YALL STILL HATE!!! and ya'll wonder why boxers say **** the fans

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                  • #89
                    Pound for pound isn't resume and who you beat in the past. It's how you good you THINK a boxer is for his weight class right now. It should be based on how good he looks right now in recent fights. Fights he had many years ago should have no bearing on his PFP rating. Many think PFP and resume are the same thing but they are not the same at all. Resume is what a boxer has already done. PFP is a person's opinion of how good a boxer is today for his pounds and what he is capable of doing. PFP usually can't be proven. Ward can't fight Loma or Rigo and they will have no common opponents. Since it's based on opinion there are no right or wrong answers. If you think Ward is the best PFP then you are right, he is. If you think Ward isn't the best PFP boxer in the world then you are equally right, he isn't the best PFP.

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                    • #90
                      Ward should have been p4p number one a long time ago. When he came out of the Super Six with an unblemished record against the best in his division that was one of the biggest feats of any boxer in modern history. The Super Six had some great boxers in their primes with varying styles. He adjusted to each fighter extremely well.

                      I suppose it was inactivity that put him under the radar of the casual fans but this whole thing with Kovalev just proved the man adjusts and finds a way to win. Adjusted from the first debatable decision to hammer home with an improved display in the second fight whereas Kovalev didn't show me anything new from their last fight. If anything Kovalev looked...worse. Ward has ring smarts. Knows how to be cute in there and get away with it. It was upto Kovalev to negate this and he failed on both occasions.

                      I love boxing and I'm not a fanboy of any fighter. Never will be. I love all the different styles that fighters from all over the world bring. I love it when a fighter wants to test himself against the best. There's no shame in Kovalev losing to Ward controversial or not. At least Kovalev wanted to fight Ward and signed up immediately for it. Can't say the same about Golovkin who I feel should have taken the Ward fight and I'm saying that without any disrespect towards Golovkin. Then again I suppose at Golovkins age he was waiting around for that big money fight and that was Canelo. I mean he did say he'd be willing to go down to 154lb to fight Mayweather which is very odd considering how low of a weight class Mayweather actually came from. So ultimately you'd assume it's because he wants to secure his future financially which you can forgive since no boxer fights for free. They are all prize fighters.

                      I like Golovkin and I hope after he bags that cheque with Canelo, who is an amazing boxer, goes on to fight big fights. I believe he wanted to secure himself financially before taking unnecessary risks. He'll have no excuse after Canelo win or lose. There was talk of retirement which was odd to say the least when he hasn't achieved that dream of his to unify and become undisputed at 160lbs.

                      Here's hoping to an amazing fight between Canelo and Golovkin for the ages. Give us a war lads!

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